Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Really great set of posts on the shipyard shuffle.

I do a little of that, but not nearly to the level you have taken it to.

You really should sanitize those posts and put them up in the war room.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Really great set of posts on the shipyard shuffle.

I do a little of that, but not nearly to the level you have taken it to.

You really should sanitize those posts and put them up in the war room.

A couple of years ago I tried explaining it (http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3569831) and asking to make sure I understood what was happening properly, and that's when Symon called me a little kiddie looking for poop.

It's a bit harder to do with the IJN because their repair density seems to be significantly higher, and they tend not to have ports with 600 naval support scattered around the map.

In New Jersey's case, I expect it to cut a couple of months off of that 7-month repair estimate at the least. It's an ideal case: slight system damage, slight to moderate floatation, 5 or less engine damage. System damage at these levels repairs at a rate that's just about perfect for 1 day at pier side, 1 day in the shipyard, so you end up repairing the floatation damage at almost the rate of the system damage.

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Really great set of posts on the shipyard shuffle.

I do a little of that, but not nearly to the level you have taken it to.

You really should sanitize those posts and put them up in the war room.

A couple of years ago I tried explaining it (http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3569831) and asking to make sure I understood what was happening properly, and that's when Symon called me a little kiddie looking for poop.

It's a bit harder to do with the IJN because their repair density seems to be significantly higher, and they tend not to have ports with 600 naval support scattered around the map.

In New Jersey's case, I expect it to cut a couple of months off of that 7-month repair estimate at the least. It's an ideal case: slight system damage, slight to moderate floatation, 5 or less engine damage. System damage at these levels repairs at a rate that's just about perfect for 1 day at pier side, 1 day in the shipyard, so you end up repairing the floatation damage at almost the rate of the system damage.

A fully repaired AR adds quite a lot of repair points, just like Naval Squads if I understand the concept correctly. It does take Japan quite a long time to make an AR, but I think they can be worth it at making a super repair facility.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

A good air day. Bombing Timor and the Sorong area, almost daily or every other day these days. Will post a screenshot of the good sweep from this turn next, but the Helens shot down were kamikazes running out of Dili. I figured he would bring in planes periodically as the runway damage went down (since we know the airfield damaged reported on the map is just service damage), and I have CAP set up 99% of the time.

The Frank losses are from sweep attempts on Babar, where I have only a light CAP of Hellcats and Corsairs.

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Morning Air attack on Ambon , at 76,109

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 41 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 22

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 10 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet

CAP engaged:
21st Sentai with Ki-45 KAIc Nick (3 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling)
18 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 35200.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Ambon , at 76,109

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 17 NM, estimated altitude 44,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIc Nick x 3

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIc Nick: 2 destroyed

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet

CAP engaged:
21st Sentai with Ki-45 KAIc Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 35200 and 45000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Lautem , at 72,115

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 41 NM, estimated altitude 48,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 16

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x P-47D2 Thunderbolt sweeping at 42000 feet

CAP engaged:
S-602 Hikotai with J2M3 Jack (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
Sasebo Ku S-1 with J2M3 Jack (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(3 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 11 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Dili , at 71,115

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 48,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 51

Allied aircraft
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 12 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 2 destroyed

CAP engaged:
S-602 Hikotai with J2M3 Jack (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 16 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 38380.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
Sasebo Ku S-1 with J2M3 Jack (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 13 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 35000 and 38380.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Dili , at 71,115

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 46,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
J2M3 Jack x 22

Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
J2M3 Jack: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38J Lightning: 3 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x P-38J Lightning sweeping at 44000 feet *

CAP engaged:
S-602 Hikotai with J2M3 Jack (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 5000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 38380.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 53 minutes
Sasebo Ku S-1 with J2M3 Jack (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 40380.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Sorong at 82,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 8
A6M5b Zero x 92
B6N2 Jill x 38
B7A2 Grace x 33
D4Y3 Judy x 105

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 4
Thunderbolt I x 2
Kittyhawk IV x 2
P-38J Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 3
FM-2 Wildcat x 126
F4U-1A Corsair x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M5b Zero: 1 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 7 destroyed, 9 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 1 destroyed by flak
B7A2 Grace: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
D4Y3 Judy: 21 destroyed, 22 damaged
D4Y3 Judy: 4 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IV: 1 destroyed
FM-2 Wildcat: 4 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Thetis Bay
CVE Sargent Bay, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Steamer Bay, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Shipley Bay, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CVE Sitkoh Bay, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Mobile
DD Sigourney
DE Fair
DE LeHardy
DD Yarnall
CVE Petrof Bay, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CVE Shamrock Bay, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
DD Haggard
AKA Jupiter, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
AKA Almaack, Torpedo hits 1

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Manokwari at 85,109

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet. Attempted strato-telepor-does
Estimated time to target is 23 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 20
P1Y2 Frances x 22

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5b Zero: 5 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
LCI-627
AKA Artemis
AP Gen. W.M.Mitchell
DE Gendreau

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x P1Y2 Frances bombing from 31000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Sorong at 82,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B6N2 Jill x 24

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 3
Thunderbolt I x 2
Kittyhawk IV x 1
P-38J Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 2
FM-2 Wildcat x 99
F4U-1A Corsair x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
B6N2 Jill: 7 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Sorong at 82,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 17
B6N2 Jill x 15
B7A2 Grace x 13
D4Y3 Judy x 10

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 1
Thunderbolt I x 1
Kittyhawk IV x 1
P-38J Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 2
FM-2 Wildcat x 96
F4U-1A Corsair x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5b Zero: 2 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 9 destroyed, 1 damaged
B6N2 Jill: 1 destroyed by flak
B7A2 Grace: 8 destroyed, 1 damaged
B7A2 Grace: 1 destroyed by flak
D4Y3 Judy: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 4 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Petrof Bay, on fire
CVE Thetis Bay
CVE Sitkoh Bay, heavy fires, heavy damage

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Sorong at 82,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet. Oh yeah, strato-kamis
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 15

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 1
Thunderbolt I x 1
Kittyhawk IV x 1
P-38J Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 2
FM-2 Wildcat x 74
F4U-1A Corsair x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 10 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CVE Shipley Bay, on fire
CVE Petrof Bay, Kamikaze hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Thetis Bay

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-49-IIb Helen flying as kamikaze
Kamikaze: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Sorong at 82,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B7A2 Grace x 12

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 1
Thunderbolt I x 1
Kittyhawk IV x 1
P-38J Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 2
FM-2 Wildcat x 55
F4U-1A Corsair x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A2 Grace: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
CVE Shipley Bay, on fire

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Sorong at 82,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y3 Judy x 6

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 1
Thunderbolt I x 1
Kittyhawk IV x 1
P-38J Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 2
FM-2 Wildcat x 52
F4U-1A Corsair x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y3 Judy: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Sansapor at 84,107

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 75 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 8
B7A2 Grace x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
B7A2 Grace: 5 damaged
B7A2 Grace: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
APA Cavalier, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
APA James O'Hara, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires

Allied ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Sansapor at 83,107

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet. My mistake here - no CAP here and I meant to withdraw
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y3 Judy x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y3 Judy: 2 damaged
D4Y3 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
LST-338, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
LST-122, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
AM Gladstone, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
LST-343, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
SC-751, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
LST-350, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Sorong at 82,107

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 65 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y3 Judy x 11

Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt I x 1
Kittyhawk IV x 1
P-38J Lightning x 1
P-40K Warhawk x 2
FM-2 Wildcat x 52
F4U-1A Corsair x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y3 Judy: 4 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sorong at 82,107

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-IIc Lily x 14

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 17
Thunderbolt I x 7
Kittyhawk IV x 6
P-38J Lightning x 6
P-40K Warhawk x 12
FM-2 Wildcat x 36
F4U-1A Corsair x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-IIc Lily: 5 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sorong at 82,107

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 14
A6M5b Zero x 58
B6N2 Jill x 13
B7A2 Grace x 15
D4Y3 Judy x 43

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 12
Thunderbolt I x 5
Kittyhawk IV x 4
P-38J Lightning x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 8
FM-2 Wildcat x 34
F4U-1A Corsair x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 5 destroyed
A6M5b Zero: 16 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 2 damaged
B7A2 Grace: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
D4Y3 Judy: 4 destroyed, 12 damaged
D4Y3 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IV: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Thetis Bay, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Shipley Bay, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CVE Petrof Bay, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DE Levy
DE Bangust, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DE Sanders, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
DE Acree

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sorong at 82,107

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 76 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 25 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D4Y3 Judy x 21
J2M3 Jack x 9
Ki-100-I Tony x 11

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 9
Thunderbolt I x 2
Kittyhawk IV x 3
P-38J Lightning x 4
P-40K Warhawk x 4
FM-2 Wildcat x 21
F4U-1A Corsair x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
D4Y3 Judy: 14 destroyed
J2M3 Jack: 1 destroyed
Ki-100-I Tony: 1 destroyed

No Allied losses

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Sorong at 82,107

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 26 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5b Zero x 46
B7A2 Grace x 15
D4Y3 Judy x 41

Allied aircraft
Corsair II x 9
Thunderbolt I x 2
P-38J Lightning x 2
P-40K Warhawk x 3
FM-2 Wildcat x 12
F4U-1A Corsair x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5b Zero: 4 destroyed
B7A2 Grace: 5 destroyed, 6 damaged
B7A2 Grace: 1 destroyed by flak
D4Y3 Judy: 10 destroyed, 8 damaged
D4Y3 Judy: 2 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
FM-2 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Thetis Bay, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Lardner
DD McCord
DD Bennett
APA Feland
CL Leander
DD Haggard
DD Yarnall
DD Rowe, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DE Levy
DD Erben
DD Perkins
APA Fuller, Bomb hits 1, on fire

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Manokwari at 85,109

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIb Helen x 19

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 12 destroyed
Ki-49-IIb Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
AK Phobos, Kamikaze hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Fat Albert, Kamikaze hits 1
AK Caelum, Kamikaze hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
78 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Ground combat at Sorong (82,107)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5049 troops, 51 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 253

Defending force 1820 troops, 37 guns, 57 vehicles, Assault Value = 55

Allied ground losses:
31 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Assaulting units:
2nd Amphibious Brigade
4th Raiding Rgt /1
18th JAAF AF Bn
26th JAAF Base Force
46th JNAF AF Unit
19th JAAF Base Force
27th Special Base Force
77th Field AA Battalion
209th JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
34th Combat Engineer Regiment
223rd Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion


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Ground combat at Sansapor (83,107)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13296 troops, 244 guns, 246 vehicles, Assault Value = 558

Defending force 9721 troops, 109 guns, 48 vehicles, Assault Value = 198

Allied adjusted assault: 140

Japanese adjusted defense: 115

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
245 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled

Allied ground losses:
295 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
27th Infantry Division
24th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
112th Cavalry Regiment

Defending units:
51st Ind.Mixed Brigade
17th Ind.Mixed Regiment
56th Construction Battalion
16th Field AF Construction Battalion
29th Fld AA Gun Co
13th Field AF Construction Battalion
37th JNAF AF Unit

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Afternoon Air attack on 33rd Division, at 61,59 (Udon Thani)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 14

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
440 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 18 (2 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 33rd Division, at 61,59 (Udon Thani)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 20

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
612 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 43 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 21 (1 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 33rd Division, at 61,59 (Udon Thani)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-29-1 Superfort x 13

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
331 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Vehicles lost 6 (3 destroyed, 3 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-29-1 Superfort bombing from 2000 feet
Ground Attack: 20 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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ORIGINAL: savelius2

Yeah, I keep seeing these late war turkey shoots, and it doesn't seem like they get the consideration they should from the Japanese side. If it takes 400 planes (not to mention pilots) to sink a handful of APAs that isn't really a net gain. CVEs, sure, if it were possible to keep control of their numbers it would help a lot with the late war, but a couple losses here and there won't stem the tide.