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Distant Worls -- Futures Past - 5/18/2014 7:17:55 PM   
Simulation01


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Status: offline 		This is an old interview that was conducted when Shadows was being released and updated. It has information that sheds light on the thinking that Elliot and Erik have regarding the future of Distant Worlds. Some things here have me optimistic for the series.


--Expanding Diplomacy-- *Sorely needed and desired*

--Private sector corporations that could claim and colonize worlds on their own--- *Really cool idea*

Others...just take a look at the article. This could provide some of those new to the game and forums a launch point for future thought and discussion.

http://www.spacesector.com/blog/2013/08/distant-worlds-interview-part-1-from-dawn-to-shadows/

http://www.spacesector.com/blog/2013/08/distant-worlds-interview-part-2-further-work-and-sequel/

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RE: Distant Worls -- Futures Past - 5/19/2014 4:38:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Indeed.I think DW could still use another feature expansion with those features.

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RE: Distant Worls -- Futures Past - 5/19/2014 5:03:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I will throw money at you for a diplomacy expansion!

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RE: Distant Worls -- Futures Past - 5/19/2014 11:50:14 PM   
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I will throw money at you for a diplomacy expansion!




AMEN! I kept thinking it would be in each subsequent expansion but, alas no. Diplomacy must be expanded. It's far to simplistic as it stands and does not live up to the depth that you find in the rest of the game.

I mean I really don't know what else to tell the developer's except this....if you make it I WILL BUY IT! I will GIVE you money to incorporate some of the notions I and others have mentioned.

-- Simultaneous Multi-party diplomacy

-- Large Alliances like NATO and the Warsaw Pact

-- Gifting Units

-- War Planning with your allies -- suggesting attacks and receiving suggested attacks -- coordinated tactical assaults on worlds and stations

-- Neutral Zones

-- Trade Unions

-- Galactic Council

-- Lending Fleets and Ships to allies and neutral nations

-- Funding separatist forces and subverting other nations


The list could go on and on and have been suggested by me and many others.

****I would really like a response from Erik or Elliot about additions to Diplomacy if they don't mind****




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RE: Distant Worls -- Futures Past - 5/20/2014 12:12:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Would love to do it, not sure we will have the opportunity before DW2, but we will be listening to the community after Universe releases and deciding on a priority list for post-release improvements.

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RE: Distant Worls -- Futures Past - 5/20/2014 12:41:03 AM   
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Would love to do it, not sure we will have the opportunity before DW2, but we will be listening to the community after Universe releases and deciding on a priority list for post-release improvements.



Thank you for the quick response! It is much appreciated!

I vote for it's priority. It's the only thing that has not been addressed to any great degree.

I would obviously like to see it in another expansion before DW2 and to then be rolled into DW2 as well. Thanks again!



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RE: Distant Worls -- Futures Past - 5/21/2014 2:47:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		To be honest we need the diplomacy we have now to be plugged before adding more options.It is laughable that I can get 50 billion from a race to give sanctions or Dow to a third party race and then stop it straight away without any consequence.


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RE: Distant Worls -- Futures Past - 5/21/2014 2:53:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Agree with Ashbery, as I've often said, please fix the exploits first.

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RE: Distant Worls -- Futures Past - 5/21/2014 3:02:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Simulation01


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AMEN! I kept thinking it would be in each subsequent expansion but, alas no. Diplomacy must be expanded. It's far to simplistic as it stands and does not live up to the depth that you find in the rest of the game.

I mean I really don't know what else to tell the developer's except this....if you make it I WILL BUY IT! I will GIVE you money to incorporate some of the notions I and others have mentioned.

-- Simultaneous Multi-party diplomacy

-- Large Alliances like NATO and the Warsaw Pact

-- Gifting Units

-- War Planning with your allies -- suggesting attacks and receiving suggested attacks -- coordinated tactical assaults on worlds and stations

-- Neutral Zones

-- Trade Unions

-- Galactic Council

-- Lending Fleets and Ships to allies and neutral nations

-- Funding separatist forces and subverting other nations


The list could go on and on and have been suggested by me and many others.

****I would really like a response from Erik or Elliot about additions to Diplomacy if they don't mind****





That stuff would have been awesome and in my view better than the last expansion by some margin.We have this great galactic simulation in DW but with little internal politics or diplomatic logic.A better fleshed out Moo3 style senate would have been awesome.


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RE: Distant Worls -- Futures Past - 5/21/2014 3:25:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cauldyth


-- Large Alliances like NATO and the Warsaw Pact

This is at least somewhat Moddable, not sure if any aspects translate to a regular game

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-- Gifting Units

This has been possible since at least Shadows, and maybe even before

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-- War Planning with your allies -- suggesting attacks and receiving suggested attacks -- coordinated tactical assaults on worlds and stations

Might have a partial here (Moddable only?)

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-- Funding separatist forces and subverting other nations

I believe you could somewhat do this in Shadows, or is this new?

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The list could go on and on and have been suggested by me and many others.

****I would really like a response from Erik or Elliot about additions to Diplomacy if they don't mind****






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RE: Distant Worls -- Futures Past - 5/22/2014 1:00:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Spacecadet



quote:

ORIGINAL: Cauldyth


-- Large Alliances like NATO and the Warsaw Pact

This is at least somewhat Moddable, not sure if any aspects translate to a regular game

quote:


-- Gifting Units

This has been possible since at least Shadows, and maybe even before

quote:


-- War Planning with your allies -- suggesting attacks and receiving suggested attacks -- coordinated tactical assaults on worlds and stations

Might have a partial here (Moddable only?)

quote:


-- Funding separatist forces and subverting other nations

I believe you could somewhat do this in Shadows, or is this new?

quote:



The list could go on and on and have been suggested by me and many others.

****I would really like a response from Erik or Elliot about additions to Diplomacy if they don't mind****








I don't want to mod in static alliances or cause them to appear and disappear at the whim of a mod( though this is nice). I want these bloc's to form in an organic fashion.


It has been a while since I played Shadows (I've been waiting for the expansion) but, I don't recall gifting units being a diplomatic option...which is where I want it. Also, I'd like to be able to loan out fleets or hire them out.

I also don't recall seeing the option to form a terrorist organization like the PLO or Hamas to employ against my enemy though, I have thought of modding in a pirate faction to fill this bill but, this will depend on DWU.



As for the notion of improving the current state of diplomacy....yeah, do it but, I rather think they could do that while adding these additions....it's not either or in my mind but, then I'm not developing the game.

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RE: Distant Worls -- Futures Past - 5/22/2014 11:49:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Speaking frankly - put this in DW2, let Universe stand on it's own merit!

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