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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/2/2014 9:48:51 PM   
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What's all the fuss about this wimpy, sissy, no contact, un-American sport played by funny looking people who bite each other and fall down for no reason? And there's almost no scoring!

Moderator, please lock this thread for the next 4 years (or until we Yanks win something meaningful).




fall down and pretend to be hurt(truly bad actors.)



That Robben acting was pretty special though. Taps his foot on the other guy's foot, then kicks his own legs out while throwing the arms out all over. Someone should just kick him in the nuts every time he does that crap.

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/3/2014 3:25:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		As uninspiring as the USA has been been over the years I will say I find it interesting despite the rather mediocre talents the US puts out it always seems to do pretty well on goalies. US national Strikers, Midfielders, and defenders with a few exceptions rarely play big roles in Europe (there are definitely a few examples) however US Goalkeepers have done very well for themselves, Howard is very well regarded, Keller was as well, and so too was Friedel. America seems to do alright putting out top quality keepers vs other positions.

I also think despite regular statements of soccer/football (whatever) not mattering in the US that's becoming less and less true. I've seen many people say people claimed soccer was the next big sport 10 years ago and it still isn't big but people who claim that rarely consider the age of current sports fans. I grew up playing Soccer/Football and most of my generation played at one point or another, my entire generation or anyone I know follows the Champions League and European soccer at least passingly and that's in a city with no team (Milwaukee)too root for, an entire street in Milwaukee was shut down for the Portugal, Germany and Belgium games with over 15,000 people packing streets and bars to watch the US. Soccer might not be peoples first choice of a sport but I do think as generations flip over you will see the US get more and more interested in the sport. It probably will never pass Football and likely not Baseball either but it may get into the #3 discussion with Basketball and I could see it passing Hockey. But none of this will be fast, it will take 20-30 years or more, people who are 50-60 are not going to change their sports viewing habits, people who are 30-40 probably won't either but the younger generations are more interested in Soccer than they have ever been and given time that will lead to a higher caliber of domestically grown soccer players within the US.

in 1995 the MLS didn't exist, in 1996 it started with 10 teams, its up to 22 teams and still expanding. Professional Soccer in the US has a long way to go but give it a few decades and you'll see improvement.

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/3/2014 6:07:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		I should say that las vegas (my home town)has immediate plans to allow the construction of a soccer stadium. So we will have a professional soccer team very soon. Las Vegas has a large population of Mexican and south americans. So I guess they will be the fans going. I don't see many regular americans attending,

Crap, LAS vegas has been trying to get a professional sport team here for years.

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/4/2014 12:56:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have several friends attend Dallas games and everyone I know growing up at least passingly follows the Champions League (we're all in our 20s) I think Youth Soccer which is huge is grooming the next generation of Soccer fans in the US, I could be wrong but I would guess the explosion of youth soccer in the 90s to present will have a big impact, as well as the increasing number of Mexican immigrants as well in expanding the soccer fanbase. It is going to take some decades however as you're not going to convince many 40+ year olds to change their sports viewing habits (nothing wrong with that) and even the 20-30 year olds who grew up playing soccer need a competitive entertainment option which the MLS really isn't yet so most just passingly follow the real leagues in Europe while ignoring the MLS at home.

I think if the MLS adopted more European transfer rules rather than the draconian rules they have in place as well as over time if they establish at least a two tiered system with promotions and demotions you could see Soccer get into the #4-#3 range of most popular sports. I really find promotions and demotions central to the appeal of European Soccer but I doubt that will ever happen as American sports owners would never let it and its a completely foreign concept to American sports culture.

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/4/2014 6:00:47 PM   
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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/5/2014 6:23:25 AM   
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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/5/2014 6:26:30 AM   
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Bad news: Neymar is out for the rest of the WC because of an injury he suffered after a bad foul play.
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The ref never even saw it as a foul.... Safe to say that re won't be getting any more assignments this World Cup.

Bad news for Brazil though with Neymar and Thiago Silva out for the semi-final.. Who picked Germany for the final?


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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/5/2014 6:28:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		So, one Quarter Final to go - can Costa Rica spring a surprise or is this the year that Holland finally get their hands on the cup they should have won twice in the 70's?

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/5/2014 6:43:25 PM   
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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/5/2014 6:45:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I must say I thought the tame exits of France and Belgium - as soon as they came across someone half decent - was really disappointing. Belgium especially have rally disappointed. A team full of gifted players, this "Golden Generation" (remember that phrase England fans?) did not play anything like the hype suggested they would. Their best player - Hazard (who is tipped to be the next Messi/Ronaldo) - simply did not show up and was especially awful against the Argentinians.

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/5/2014 8:42:34 PM   
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Hoping for an upset.

Realistically, I think their best chance are penalties but if you park the bus on holland they will find a way...

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/5/2014 9:44:16 PM   
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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/5/2014 10:35:38 PM   
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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/5/2014 10:36:28 PM   
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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/5/2014 10:48:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good keeper swap by The Netherlands. And have to say that seen the match overall, they deserved the win they got.

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/5/2014 10:51:19 PM   
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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/5/2014 10:57:55 PM   
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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/6/2014 9:26:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		So for the semi-final we have a repeat of the 2002 World Cup Final and a repeat of the 1978 World Cup Final.

Brazil vs Germany

Argentina vs Holland

The South Americans won both encounters (although the Dutch extracted some measure of revenge 20-years later in a Quarter-Final tie in France).

Who do people want and who do they think will actually make it to the final?

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/6/2014 10:04:29 AM   
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First Semi.

I want Brazil for the same reason I've wanted them all tournament (even though ordinarily I would have wanted Chile or Colombia). They are at home and I think its good for the tournament that they reach the final.

I think it will be Germany. Brazil will be without their two best players - and I agree with Mourinho, the loss of Thiago Silva is probably more of a worry than Neymar. The law of averages says that Germany will win the tournament soon. Maybe this is the year....

Second Semi

This is weird. In every other year I would want Holland. a) to right the wrongs of two lost finals in the 70's and b) because I love the Dutch, the Orange kit, the Lion, the national anthem, everything. Trouble is, I cannot stand Robben, have no time for van Persie and van Gaal and so, for the first time, have not cared whether the Dutch lose. But I definitely do not want Argentina - the stunt with the Falklands before the tournament was just crass. So, in summary, not much of a choice!! Probably want the Dutch on balance.

I think it will be the Dutch to win. The Argentines have failed to convince and in van Gaal I think Holland have a manager who seems to know what he is doing and is unafraid to make big, bold decisions. The Dutch have a sensible amount of time to get over the marathon match with Costa Rica too so that should not be a factor.

So a Germany vs Holland final. But this sounds wrong!! The tournament is in Brazil - no European team has won in South America.... Oh hell, I don't know

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/6/2014 11:18:07 AM   
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Who do people want and who do they think will actually make it to the final?


Ok then.

My head says Germany will defeat Brazil (Neymar out) and my heart says "I don't care at all who makes it"

As for case B my my head says Argentina will prevail and my heart says Holland.

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/6/2014 2:37:39 PM   
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germany should win the cup for their hard work in the past 10 years.

too bad costa rica loss against holland would be so much fun too see this guys in a wc final.


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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/6/2014 5:22:03 PM   
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1. Brazil vs Germany

2. Argentina vs Holland

Who do people want and who do they think will actually make it to the final?


Want;
1. Germany
2. Holland

Believe;
1. Germany (I do not think Brazil has enough in the team as a whole to win this)
2. Argentina (It only takes one slip up, and Messi will hurt Holland. On the other side, if Robben continues to work as he did against Costa Rica, it can go any way. But Holland really needs Robben and RVP to shine if they are to win).


So, Germany vs Argentina in the final most likely imo, and I think Germany will take that one.

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/6/2014 6:14:20 PM   
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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/6/2014 7:18:15 PM   
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There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.




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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/6/2014 7:43:12 PM   
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Best movie line ever! Spoken by a Canadian pretending to be British!
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There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.



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He didn't have to pretend to hard - both his parents were English.

But surely you are exaggerating somewhat re best movie line ever? What about:

Paul Gleason in Trading Places:

Beaks: %^&* Off

Or

Miguel Ferrer in Hot Shots Part Deux

Harbinger: War...it's fantastic!

Or

Robert Stack in Airplane

Are you going to turn the lights on Chief?

Kramer: No, that's just what they're expecting us to do

Or

Gene Hackman in Crimson Tide

Ramsey: You do qualify your remarks. If someone asked me if we should bomb Japan, a simple "Yes." By all means sir, drop that %^&*er, twice!


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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/6/2014 8:08:31 PM   
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Who do people want and who do they think will actually make it to the final?


Want: Germany and Holland

Think: Germany and Argentina

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/6/2014 8:19:27 PM   
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But surely you are exaggerating somewhat re best movie line ever? What about:



There are one or two that stick in my mind, mostly due to similar personal experience...


The RAF ground crew flight sgt watching Simon land his Spitfire when he first arrives on the sqiuadron,

"Bumps-a-daisy, it's enough to make you weep."

Followed by "undercarriage lever a bit sticky was it Sir?"


Having been on the receiving and of some dodgy landings (and watched the things pilots do to Spitfires) as well as their habit of either breaking everything or claiming it's broken these one make me smile every time I watch the film.

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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/6/2014 8:27:57 PM   
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Brazil, Germany, Netherlands, Argentina...

Now there's a surprise...

Huge congratulations to Costa Rica. A magnificent tournament for them and they deserve to be national heroes when the get home.

Best wishes,
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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/7/2014 4:31:43 PM   
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Brazil vs Argentina

Do not want:

Anything else

What will happen:

Germany and Holland in a boring final in which Klose scores a boring goal to crush Ronaldo's record and gives Germany their first world cup .


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RE: Most Unofficial Brazil 2014 World Cup Thread - 7/8/2014 6:23:50 PM   
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