Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Spidery
There are a lot of bases in China with a x10 multiple for Japan and these can all be developed to size 4 airfields without too much difficulty. Sining and Lanchow have x50 multipliers and Tsuyung and Kunming have x25 multipliers.

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
To what others have said about going for a lot of 1-1 trades I'd also offer that you really haven't hurt this navy at all. He has re-supply running in a big, big way given his perimeter. I know most of your DDs are crap yet, but a few 2-3 DD hunting groups, looking for only merchants and PBs, would make him react. Midway can work for some. Pago Pago too if you risk an AD. LBA is the great boogieman, but DDs are nimble. If you lose one it's 8-10 VPs. A single big xAK is that, plus the supply he has to rebuild. Don't get tunnel vision that you have to fight warships. Warships shoot back!

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Port Hueneme expands airfield to size 6
Iman expands airfield to size 5
Suchan expands airfield to size 4
Rybolov expands airfield to size 7
San Luis Obispo expands airfield to size 5
Prince Rupert expands port to size 6
Anadyr expands airfield to size 2
Chita expands airfield to size 7

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Apr 05, 42
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Night Time Surface Combat, near San Diego at 220,98, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
AMC Kinryu Maru
AMC Awata Maru
AMC Kongo Maru
AMC Nosiro Maru, Shell hits 1
AMC Bankok Maru, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
PG Charleston
PC Atalanta
TK Mobilgas, Shell hits 3
TK H. M. Storey, Shell hits 3, on fire
TK L. P. St. Clair
TK Osthav, Shell hits 2, on fire

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Lihue at 182,93, Range 23,000 Yards

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AMC Kinryu Maru, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
AMC Awata Maru, Shell hits 21, and is sunk
AMC Kongo Maru, Shell hits 8, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
BB West Virginia
BB Arizona
DD Meredith
DD Gwin
DD Grayson, Shell hits 1
DD Monssen
DD O'Brien
DD Walke

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Lihue at 182,92, Range 22,000 Yards

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AMC Kongo Maru, Shell hits 11, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB West Virginia
BB Arizona
DD Meredith
DD Gwin
DD Grayson
DD Monssen
DD O'Brien
DD Walke

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Ground combat at 82,43 (near Ankang)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 43295 troops, 919 guns, 573 vehicles, Assault Value = 992

Defending force 26801 troops, 180 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 409

Japanese adjusted assault: 740

Allied adjusted defense: 286

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
1490 casualties reported
Squads: 20 destroyed, 92 disabled
Non Combat: 9 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 3 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 18 (8 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 31 (3 destroyed, 28 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
9505 casualties reported
Squads: 393 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 315 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 15 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 30 (20 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Units retreated 6

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I did manage to intercept about half the AMC TF. It was a once sided affair...

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ORIGINAL: Spidery

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I did manage to intercept about half the AMC TF. It was a once sided affair...

Nice, those AMC are worth 20-25 VP each.

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

I don't think AMC should be used for merchant raiding. They just die so easily. Amphib operations, even escorting tankers (especially the ones with floats) seem much better uses.

I just don't think auto victory is in the cards because Joc keeps underestimating his ability to gain victory points. Maybe 3-1 auto vic in 44 if the Allies are super cautious, but I feel confident that by then Joc will have launched several major operations...and any major fleet clashes will be near breakeven to positive Allies.

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

I just don't think auto victory is in the cards because Joc keeps underestimating his ability to gain victory points. Maybe 3-1 auto vic in 44 if the Allies are super cautious, but I feel confident that by then Joc will have launched several major operations...and any major fleet clashes will be near breakeven to positive Allies.

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ORIGINAL: obvert

He's right to worry. If he doesn't consider AV then he's not playing the game and won't be using it in all of the decisions made from here on out. That is dangerous.

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Ground combat at Manila (79,77)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 50306 troops, 867 guns, 673 vehicles, Assault Value = 1091

Defending force 44354 troops, 496 guns, 201 vehicles, Assault Value = 669

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 1443

Allied adjusted defense: 247

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Manila !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1579 casualties reported
Squads: 35 destroyed, 46 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 27 disabled
Vehicles lost 12 (3 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
57319 casualties reported
Squads: 1889 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 2791 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 79 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 258 (258 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 295 (295 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 37

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

That is one consistent slope! Kind of pretty in a terrible sort of way.

You got some AMCs. Good for you. It can be done and man, does it make the movie easier to watch.

Re China, I don't have any good advice. Supply is collapsing as you knew it would. On your list of things to do I'd be taking all the arty, all the AA, and all the base forces and moving them backwards as fast as possible. If not Chungking then the mountains. Don't wait until the last minute and try to squeeze them through hexsides. They're useless without supply. The BF Support isn't, but . . .

In Navy terms, there's water coming into the hull. Save what you can. Abandon the lower compartments.

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ORIGINAL: Wargmr

I am playing someone extremely adverse to AA and it might make a difference in other games but I honestly believe having the 2AA units the Chineese have stationed in Chungking can make or break the war for the Chinese. Make sure you do not lose those if possible.

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

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ORIGINAL: Wargmr

I am playing someone extremely adverse to AA and it might make a difference in other games but I honestly believe having the 2AA units the Chineese have stationed in Chungking can make or break the war for the Chinese. Make sure you do not lose those if possible.

I also believe AA should be in Chungking, even if unsupplied for now. But SLs make hard choices in Chungking a must.

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ORIGINAL: Wargmr

True... My opponent has been milking Chungking for a while. Irritating but part of the game mechanics. As soon as I overstack I move stuff out of the city to be destroyed. I have managed to keep supply in the city through Jan 44 this way. The AA just prevents his bombers from getting any significant hits and I dont think he wants to lose aircraft points and seasoned pilots for no reason.

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
I had supplied AA in Chungking in a non-SL game, and Lokasenna just strat bombed Resources down below 10 and took the hexsides. Supply game over. Not many Japan players want to destroy Chungking industry, but it certainly changes the balance.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58
I had supplied AA in Chungking in a non-SL game, and Lokasenna just strat bombed Resources down below 10 and took the hexsides. Supply game over. Not many Japan players want to destroy Chungking industry, but it certainly changes the balance.

According to our HRs he can bomb the industry but hasn´t. I´m thinking he want it intact. B29s doesn´t arrive until early 44 so he will get almost 2 years worth of industry before I can torch it.

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Night Naval bombardment of Newcastle at 92,166 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

19 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
BB Kirishima, Shell hits 1
BB Hiei
BB Haruna
BB Kongo
CA Ashigara
CA Nachi
CA Haguro
CA Myoko

Allied ground losses:
1092 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 13 destroyed, 69 disabled
Engineers: 13 destroyed, 20 disabled
Guns lost 37 (10 destroyed, 27 disabled)
Vehicles lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

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Afternoon Air attack on Sydney , at 90,167

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 37 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 142
G3M2 Nell x 81

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 2 damaged

Manpower hits 17
Fires 2602

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe
I would pull your BB back from the centpac. He knows they are there, and they sink fast in the open ocean.

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Ground combat at 80,40 (near Kienko)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 56983 troops, 877 guns, 767 vehicles, Assault Value = 1340

Defending force 38196 troops, 160 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 762

Japanese adjusted assault: 824

Allied adjusted defense: 208

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
510 casualties reported
Squads: 22 destroyed, 68 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 6 (2 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
16097 casualties reported
Squads: 516 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 500 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 15 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 23 (22 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 6

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!