Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Barb

Hmm... done some maths on the Noumea raid...
96 of your heavy bombers achieved total of 83 hits in thunderstorms and flying at some 13 000ft through thunderstorms.
Considering that B-17Es flown at extended range with reduced bomb load - you have dropped 578 bombs (If I remember the bomb-load right ..4 per B-17E, 10 per B-17D, 10 per LB-30 and 10 per B-24D)... and got 14,36% accuracy...

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Night Air attack on Noumea , at 115,160

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 32 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami, Bomb hits 2

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Night Air attack on Noumea , at 115,160

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Kiso, Bomb hits 1
CA Mogami, Bomb hits 1

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Night Air attack on Noumea , at 115,160

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 49 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Kiso, Bomb hits 1, on fire

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Night Air attack on Noumea , at 115,160

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Kiso, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Air attack on Noumea , at 115,160

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
LB-30 Liberator x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Kiso, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Myoko, Bomb hits 1

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Barb

Hmm... done some maths on the Noumea raid...
96 of your heavy bombers achieved total of 83 hits in thunderstorms and flying at some 13 000ft through thunderstorms.
Considering that B-17Es flown at extended range with reduced bomb load - you have dropped 578 bombs (If I remember the bomb-load right ..4 per B-17E, 10 per B-17D, 10 per LB-30 and 10 per B-24D)... and got 14,36% accuracy...

They were flying at 10k (lowest allowed altitude for 4Es by HR). I also left out a couple of attacks that didn´t hit anything. So I would say around 10% of all bombs hit something.

In my experience with the game that is pretty bad for a port attack.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Might have cost him Kiso keeping them in port. Strangely enough he only moved in 70 Fighters for protection. Had I known I might have tried another daylight attack.

Now supply is gone so I have to pull back. At least for now!

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
From 10,000 with thunderstorms? 10% sounds good to me.

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
Good followup. Look for an Alf in the aircraft losses over the next day or two... what size is Noumea's port? If he built it bigger than 3, you probably won't see her show up.

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Sounded like it was a good plan. The only thing I thought of while reading about your initial strike was where was the 10 plus subs to be placed north of island to catch the damaged ships leaving the next day. Add this to list for next time.

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Ground combat at 95,157 (near Maryborough)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4795 troops, 6 guns, 477 vehicles, Assault Value = 293

Defending force 4887 troops, 61 guns, 26 vehicles, Assault Value = 139

Allied adjusted assault: 139

Japanese adjusted defense: 191

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), op mode(-), fatigue(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
353 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 18 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 32 (23 destroyed, 9 disabled)
Vehicles lost 16 (2 destroyed, 14 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
81 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Vehicles lost 42 (1 destroyed, 41 disabled)

Assaulting units:
2/11th Armoured Car Regiment
2/8th Armoured Regiment
2/6th Armoured Regiment
754th Tank Battalion
2/5th Armoured Regiment
2/4th Armoured Regiment
2/10th Armoured Regiment

Defending units:
21st Ind.Mixed Brigade
4th RF Gun Battalion

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Morning Air attack on Calcutta , at 52,37

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 33 NM, estimated altitude 35,190 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 27
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 42

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
42 x Ki-45 KAIa Nick sweeping at 31190 feet *

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

I'd bet almost anything that the new TF at Brisbane is made up of damaged ships from Noumea.

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I have a habit of checking the strategic map before I end the turn. I select to view only Japanese TFs. Sometimes it really pays off...found a small red dot in the middle of nowhere. This is what I found...

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ORIGINAL: Spidery
Shokaku and Zuikaku heading to Japan to get radar fitted? Can you get a sub in the way?

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ORIGINAL: offenseman

Brilliant find! Those heading home and the cruiser force trashed for a while is the news you have needed! At the least you will see a huge slowdown of his tempo. Is the USN CV fleet anywhere close? I envision a big sweep over Brisbane by the USN followed by 4e and CV aviation on Brisbane's port to smash those cruisers even more. Send the CVs at full speed if you have to.

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ORIGINAL: offenseman

Brilliant find! Those heading home and the cruiser force trashed for a while is the news you have needed! At the least you will see a huge slowdown of his tempo. Is the USN CV fleet anywhere close? I envision a big sweep over Brisbane by the USN followed by 4e and CV aviation on Brisbane's port to smash those cruisers even more. Send the CVs at full speed if you have to.

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

I'd bet almost anything that the new TF at Brisbane is made up of damaged ships from Noumea.

I would too. They got there fast, so probably not much engine damage. And Brisbane is a shipyard=10, so it can take most/all of the IJN CLs. The question for me would be why he went there when he knows you have major 4E assets nearby. Can he protect the yard? Or are they so hurt he had little choice?

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ORIGINAL: offenseman

If the 'kakus are heading to the HI you have plenty of time to deal with things before they can return. Brisbane is near the end of a LONG fuel chain for him which makes his KB and BB usage problematic. The cruiser force is probably not usable in the next two weeks, at least. This is an opportunity! Send them CVs to the area at flank speed if you have to and follow up with AOs if NZ has no gas.

Also consider a 4e strike and/or Bombardment on Brisbane's port. Port damage will slow things down as well. While losing a bunch of 4e would not be so great, this is a rare opportunity.

Be aggressive in this case and pounce on this!

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna


'd guess that he put them there due to having better fighter protection (right?), and to be able to protect the ships from bombardments and such with an SCTF in hex. Also Brisbane has a bigger port (7+, right?), so can fix up to 5 points of major damage without even entering the yard. And then there's the yard to fix the DDs, and he only has to expand it a few points to fix the CAs. I'd only do this if major damage were under 10 or so, or really under 7-8, but that's a pretty reasonable damage result for bombs that bounced off of armor.

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna


'd guess that he put them there due to having better fighter protection (right?), and to be able to protect the ships from bombardments and such with an SCTF in hex. Also Brisbane has a bigger port (7+, right?), so can fix up to 5 points of major damage without even entering the yard. And then there's the yard to fix the DDs, and he only has to expand it a few points to fix the CAs. I'd only do this if major damage were under 10 or so, or really under 7-8, but that's a pretty reasonable damage result for bombs that bounced off of armor.

It starts as a 5(4).

Allies can't expand yards, Japan-Boi.

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

Diabolical.

I have to learn how to play Japan.

I did a test on Singers. How do you get it to expand a point at a time? It wanted to jump by 50 a push I think. I tried Soerbaja and it was less per push, maybe 10?

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

Diabolical.

I have to learn how to play Japan.

I did a test on Singers. How do you get it to expand a point at a time? It wanted to jump by 50 a push I think. I tried Soerbaja and it was less per push, maybe 10?

You have to go into the 'J' hotkey screen. The Allies have that screen too, but I can see why you'd never want to open it. It's where I do ALL of my industry management.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna
From 10,000 with thunderstorms? 10% sounds good to me.

Not complaining but in my experience port attacks for some reason are conducted by laser guided bombs. 30% hit rate wouldn´t have surprised me one bit!

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ORIGINAL: Sangeli

Well I'm guessing offensive operations are off in Sumatra. But those reinforcements should prove useful in countering a Japanese attack.