Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: BattleMoose

After China get cleaned up, what do you suppose he will do with all those LCUs? Seems like Java and Sumatra got reinforced. Do you think he will send a number of them to reinforce Burma?

Cape Town to Perth is a slower but much safer option for getting things to Australia.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister
Burma for instance is still lightly held and a big allied push here might not push Tom out but cause him a lot of headaches.

Donīt want to bog down the armor in the jungles though.

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister
Burma for instance is still lightly held and a big allied push here might not push Tom out but cause him a lot of headaches.

Donīt want to bog down the armor in the jungles though.

$&^*! I got shot down, abused, and kicked while on the ground for mentioning this instead of Sumatra...

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister
Burma for instance is still lightly held and a big allied push here might not push Tom out but cause him a lot of headaches.

Donīt want to bog down the armor in the jungles though.

$&^*! I got shot down, abused, and kicked while on the ground for mentioning this instead of Sumatra...

Maskirovka!

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Just don't get cut off with an amphibious invasion and destroyed.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe
Just don't get cut off with an amphibious invasion and destroyed.

That would certainly be undesirable!

Not too worried about an counter attack. Atolls are horrible, horrible to attack. Even more so for Japan. In my 2nd game my opponent wrecked 2 full IDs trying to counter land against a lone USMC RGT backed up by a Tank BTL and a Engineer RGT on Makin.

Even after blasting them with BBs and bombing from the air for 3 months his landing force was completely wrecked. And my troops didnīt even have any supply. Atolls are NASTY. And even if Tom decided to try it will be the same krux as with his Kandavu landing. He would need the KB there for the duration. So the KB parked in the Gilberts for 100 days. Iīll take that for the price of the troops invested.

I think it was GJ who said that as a RoT Japan should never ever under any circumstances try to retake atolls.

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Pre-Invasion action off Tabiteuea (137,134)

2 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Resolution
BB Ramillies
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico
DD Talbot
DD Stuart
DD Allen
AP Crescent City
DD Norman

Japanese ground losses:
435 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 12 destroyed, 32 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled

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Amphibious Assault at Tabiteuea (137,134)

TF 183 troops unloading over beach at Tabiteuea, 137,134

Allied ground losses:
116 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 10 (0 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 38 (2 destroyed, 36 disabled)

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Ground combat at Tabiteuea (137,134)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 9658 troops, 137 guns, 186 vehicles, Assault Value = 329

Defending force 909 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Allied adjusted assault: 354

Japanese adjusted defense: 1

Allied assault odds: 354 to 1 (fort level 2)

Allied forces CAPTURE Tabiteuea !!!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K1 Emily: 1 destroyed
H6K4 Mavis: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender:
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
909 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 37 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
145th Infantry Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
637th Tank Destroyer Battalion
1st Pioneer Battalion
93rd Coast AA Regiment
1st AmphTrac Engineer Battalion
318th Base Group

Defending units:
13th Naval Construction Battalion
32nd JAAF AF Coy

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe
I was thinking more along the lines of an invasion into lower India...

I had to look up that word...I like it.

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ORIGINAL: offenseman

Wonderful! Now go sack Roi Namur. Well done. It must be nice to do something offensive for a change.

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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 8469 troops, 702 guns, 729 vehicles, Assault Value = 1786

Defending force 217346 troops, 172 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 5619

Allied ground losses:
1855 casualties reported
Squads: 101 destroyed, 39 disabled
Non Combat: 12 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

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Starting to wonder if something is up with those huge Manchurian guns

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

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Starting to wonder if something is up with those huge Manchurian guns

IMO, their TO&E should be changed to include a static device that doesn't upgrade to a non-static device until at least mid-42 or beyond. They would have taken months to move IRL, not less than two weeks.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: BattleMoose

After China get cleaned up, what do you suppose he will do with all those LCUs? Seems like Java and Sumatra got reinforced. Do you think he will send a number of them to reinforce Burma?

Cape Town to Perth is a slower but much safer option for getting things to Australia.

Very good question! He will no doubt use a good amount to make the mountains to Burma rock solid. With the rest...not sure. Garrison requirements are ridiculously low so he will no doubt have the ability to buy out a huge amount of troops.

But as I have noticed SL will make it harder for him to create massive fortresses. But no doubt he will pack all the possible approaches to the limit. Marianas, Marshalls, Sumatra, DEI... much will go to Burma Iīm sure. He can probably buy out an ID every second month or so. So I will be facing at least an extra 6 IDs in the coming year besides the 3(?) he has already bought out.

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

About those engineers sitting in the USA that you haven't found a use for: if you move them to OZ they can build the bases there to improve supply flow. They will also be closer to the islands that you will conquer and need to build up in SOPAC/SWPAC.

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ORIGINAL: mind_messing
Speaking as someone who's knocked the Chinese out of the war, expect MrKane to have an abundance of medium to large LCU's ready to deploy where he wants them. You'll likely find yourself up against a fair number Ind. Mixed Brigades dotted all over the place.

The IJA in China is particularly flush with brigades that can be combined with reinforcement units to form a division. These units are ideal for those locations where MrKane will want more than some Naval Guards/SNLF or a IJA brigade to defend.

However, don't let the notion of having 3 or 6 or 12 extra "divisions" get you down. Most of the IJA divisions that start in China are little more than a few hundred infantry squads with some field guns and mortars. They're cheap to buy out and should do a good job holding behind forts and support units, but they're not the monster IJA divisions that have a nice artillery train and some tanks - they cost a fair number of PP's.

Once China falls, there's also the support assets that are freed up. There's no longer any need for any excess engineers or aviation support, so Japanese engineering efforts get a nice little boost, and the extra aviation support goes some way towards solving the AS crunch at the frontlines.

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister
Man, SL makes things annoyingly difficult at times. I have a crapload of Engineers sitting at San Fran. But nowhere to send them. There simply isnīt any room to put them.

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ORIGINAL: Sangeli

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister
Man, SL makes things annoyingly difficult at times. I have a crapload of Engineers sitting at San Fran. But nowhere to send them. There simply isnīt any room to put them.

BS! There are half a dozen islands in the Gilberts with 10k+ stacking limits that can be built up to level 5 air bases. They are just sitting there waiting for SeaBees. Especially Tabiteuea with its 40k stacking limit as it can be brought up to level 6; I wouldn't hesitate in dropping 10 SeaBee battalions here.

Also certainly you can use engineers in Burma/India to build up some of those jungle bases. OZ can also use some engineering assets in the far north like Portland roads which is only 8 hexes from Port Moresby. If you can't find uses for engineers throughout 1942 you're doing it wrong. And I know this because I had the same thoughts in my last game and I know for a fact I underutilized my engineering assets and paid for it in 1943.

As for your current OP, it seems like the KB isn't going to show up. The fact the Gilberts were so undeveloped tells me that Japan isn't planning on risking the KB for the OP. That being said, I would be willing to bet the Japanese match your invasion of the Gilberts with a buildup of the Marshalls in the coming months.

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ORIGINAL: mind_messing

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ORIGINAL: JocMeister

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ORIGINAL: BattleMoose

After China get cleaned up, what do you suppose he will do with all those LCUs? Seems like Java and Sumatra got reinforced. Do you think he will send a number of them to reinforce Burma?

Cape Town to Perth is a slower but much safer option for getting things to Australia.

Very good question! He will no doubt use a good amount to make the mountains to Burma rock solid. With the rest...not sure. Garrison requirements are ridiculously low so he will no doubt have the ability to buy out a huge amount of troops.

But as I have noticed SL will make it harder for him to create massive fortresses. But no doubt he will pack all the possible approaches to the limit. Marianas, Marshalls, Sumatra, DEI... much will go to Burma Iīm sure. He can probably buy out an ID every second month or so. So I will be facing at least an extra 6 IDs in the coming year besides the 3(?) he has already bought out.

Speaking as someone who's knocked the Chinese out of the war, expect MrKane to have an abundance of medium to large LCU's ready to deploy where he wants them. You'll likely find yourself up against a fair number Ind. Mixed Brigades dotted all over the place.

The IJA in China is particularly flush with brigades that can be combined with reinforcement units to form a division. These units are ideal for those locations where MrKane will want more than some Naval Guards/SNLF or a IJA brigade to defend.

However, don't let the notion of having 3 or 6 or 12 extra "divisions" get you down. Most of the IJA divisions that start in China are little more than a few hundred infantry squads with some field guns and mortars. They're cheap to buy out and should do a good job holding behind forts and support units, but they're not the monster IJA divisions that have a nice artillery train and some tanks - they cost a fair number of PP's.

Once China falls, there's also the support assets that are freed up. There's no longer any need for any excess engineers or aviation support, so Japanese engineering efforts get a nice little boost, and the extra aviation support goes some way towards solving the AS crunch at the frontlines.

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ORIGINAL: Spidery

Expect more divisions released than you have suggested. If he starts deliberate attacks at Chungking he will have divisions, including some of the better ones, suffering heavy disablements. If he plans ahead he will have the PP available to buy these out at a cheap rate.