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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/17/2014 11:46:37 PM   
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Mexico are a very, very good side. Could do well

I kinda like Mexico. They're scrappy. They were pretty sloppy against Brazil, but Ochoa was his usual hustling self. They played good enough defense to hold the tie, though. I don't think they are a great side, but they got some cojones.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 12:23:43 AM   
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Yes, a great result for Mexico. Brazil didn't look awful and average goalkeeping for Mexico leads to a 2-0 game or so, but El Tri looks very different from just a few months ago (in a good way).

US v. Portugal is a "must draw" for us (not that I'd kick a win out of bed). As tocaff says, a window. The plan vs Germany realistically is to limit reductions in our goal differential. At least against them I have a decent chance to watch Arsenal players administer the blow.

Chile/Spain will be fascinating. So much reason for both to need that one.

For all my hopes for England at the start, Uruguay/England could be painful. Given their respective histories, which side is more likely to bounce back? Which one is more likely to implode? I love the young guys, but the "gut" answer to those questions is not encouraging for this 3 Lions fan. There is a path, however. If England can overcome their mental demons, Sterling & Co racing past the pace-challenged Uruguayan center backs could be the key to 3 points.

Shaping up to be a wonderful Cup.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 9:14:39 AM   
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Watched the Mexico-Brazil match. Mexico didn't generate as many chances, but had some good shots on goal that required decent keeping. Brazil was unlucky on those headers that the Mexican keeper was right there. He did well all game though.

Belgium looked good.

Spain-Chile tonight should be fun. See if Spain can bounce back.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 9:31:14 AM   
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Can't call the England - Uruguay game. It sounds like Rooney will play as No.10 which, if England are to play him, is the role he needs to be in.

So many questions though, not least, how fit is Suarez to play? Also, as Gus Poyet himself admitted, Uruguay are masters at the art of dirty tricks - will they target Wayne Rooney? Will Suarez get up to his diving shenanigans?

One thing's for sure - it ain't going to be a dull game

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 9:39:19 AM   
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Yes, Spain-Chile should be really interesting. Big questions: Did Spain just suffer a really bad off-night? and/or are Holland that good? and/or has Spain's period of dominance with this group of players come to an end?

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 2:17:52 PM   
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Can't call the England - Uruguay game. It sounds like Rooney will play as No.10 which, if England are to play him, is the role he needs to be in.

So many questions though, not least, how fit is Suarez to play? Also, as Gus Poyet himself admitted, Uruguay are masters at the art of dirty tricks - will they target Wayne Rooney? Will Suarez get up to his diving shenanigans?

One thing's for sure - it ain't going to be a dull game

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Will Suarez dive? Will the Sun rise in the East? He's so talented but he and Robben are the world dive leaders, IMHO.

I think Spain/Chile is fascinating for many reasons, but especially the one you cite. Is Holland really that good? If so, and with Brazil frankly looking a little short on ideas over two matches, hmmm.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 4:42:48 PM   
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Can't call the England - Uruguay game. It sounds like Rooney will play as No.10 which, if England are to play him, is the role he needs to be in.

So many questions though, not least, how fit is Suarez to play? Also, as Gus Poyet himself admitted, Uruguay are masters at the art of dirty tricks - will they target Wayne Rooney? Will Suarez get up to his diving shenanigans?

One thing's for sure - it ain't going to be a dull game

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Will Suarez dive? Will the Sun rise in the East? He's so talented but he and Robben are the world dive leaders, IMHO.

I think Spain/Chile is fascinating for many reasons, but especially the one you cite. Is Holland really that good? If so, and with Brazil frankly looking a little short on ideas over two matches, hmmm.
warspite1

If they are then, on the showing of this first half, Australia are going to be World Champions!

Australia 1-1 Holland

Holland a little on the ropes here coming up to half time.....

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 4:52:43 PM   
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Yes, a great result for Mexico. Brazil didn't look awful and average goalkeeping for Mexico leads to a 2-0 game or so, but El Tri looks very different from just a few months ago (in a good way).

US v. Portugal is a "must draw" for us (not that I'd kick a win out of bed). As tocaff says, a window. The plan vs Germany realistically is to limit reductions in our goal differential. At least against them I have a decent chance to watch Arsenal players administer the blow.

Chile/Spain will be fascinating. So much reason for both to need that one.

For all my hopes for England at the start, Uruguay/England could be painful. Given their respective histories, which side is more likely to bounce back? Which one is more likely to implode? I love the young guys, but the "gut" answer to those questions is not encouraging for this 3 Lions fan. There is a path, however. If England can overcome their mental demons, Sterling & Co racing past the pace-challenged Uruguayan center backs could be the key to 3 points.

Shaping up to be a wonderful Cup.

What you say is pretty smart. You are not the usual Texican are you? My goodness, a righteous man! Chile/Spain will be beyond fascinating. It has to happen for us.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 4:58:47 PM   
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Yes, a great result for Mexico. Brazil didn't look awful and average goalkeeping for Mexico leads to a 2-0 game or so, but El Tri looks very different from just a few months ago (in a good way).

US v. Portugal is a "must draw" for us (not that I'd kick a win out of bed). As tocaff says, a window. The plan vs Germany realistically is to limit reductions in our goal differential. At least against them I have a decent chance to watch Arsenal players administer the blow.

Chile/Spain will be fascinating. So much reason for both to need that one.

For all my hopes for England at the start, Uruguay/England could be painful. Given their respective histories, which side is more likely to bounce back? Which one is more likely to implode? I love the young guys, but the "gut" answer to those questions is not encouraging for this 3 Lions fan. There is a path, however. If England can overcome their mental demons, Sterling & Co racing past the pace-challenged Uruguayan center backs could be the key to 3 points.

Shaping up to be a wonderful Cup.

What you say is pretty smart. You are not the usual Texican are you? My goodness, a righteous man! Chile/Spain will be beyond fascinating. It has to happen for us.
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Stop blowing smoke up his bottom Symon - he's a dastardly gooner




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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 5:27:03 PM   
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Hehe, The Socceroos came to play today. Now 2-2 with both equalizers scored before the original scoring team has a chance to finish celebrating. Cahill volley a wonderstrike. Just a letdown by the Dutch or a game plan others can use? Hard to say.

I am indeed unusual for an American in that I love the game and have watched since a young age. I think it comes from 3 things. 1) I played for many years, 2) I visited Europe often and absorbed the love and drama of football, and 3) the options to watch in the US are really increasing. We can now watch every Premier League game on TV live for example. I especially prefer to watch the games where the mighty Gunners go up against that side with the silly bird logo. On a club note, I think the Community Shield could actually matter to Arsenal. A chance to improve form vs one of the top sides in a "no pressure" game.

Chile/Spain is just going to rock. My advice to your side Symon is to press them hard and go for an early goal. Spain's psyche has to be fragile right now. Finally, I have to say the Aussies have looked pretty good so far through two matches after the disaster start against Chile. They are outmatched in quality but played hard and showed some flashes.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 5:37:56 PM   
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Oops, there they go again. This just in - Robben and Van Persie are good & in form. RvP an Arsenal traitor but it's hard for me to hate him. OK, maybe a little.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 5:39:51 PM   
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I don´t think Holland impresses much against Australia TBH.

Cahills goal. OMG!

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 5:56:40 PM   
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Australia 2-3 Holland

Hard luck Australia - quality, gutsy performance

Agree Cahill's goal will be a contender for the goal of the tournament

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 7:57:53 PM   
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So Symon...

HAPPY MUCH!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Chile 2 - 0 Spain HT

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 8:29:31 PM   
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Thought it was a good game. Thought Spain was kinda winpy. Chile played like they usually do but they were a lot deeper than normal. Spain got crowded out a lot, while Chile was almost always clear. Good play on both sides, but 17 million Chileans jumping up and down might be making the earth move a little bit.

Oh, yeah, I'm a very happy camper. Have to go to church and do my candles. And I owe La Roja a stations of the cross. Can't remember being this proud of Chile since ... Damn, I'm really proud of Chile.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 8:54:00 PM   
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They are heading on, Spain heading home. Only question now is can they win the Group. Great stuff!

PS - I wonder if Vegas had a prop bet for Spain being eliminated before the US? If so, I wonder what the odds were, and if anyone placed a bet. If so, they are very happy tonight too.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 9:12:19 PM   
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Brazil won't be looking forward to either Chile or Holland at this rate.

I reckon I'll be feeling about as well as the Spanish fans by this time tomorrow.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 9:36:47 PM   
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Well played Chile !
What a fighting spirit !
The australians in need of another goalie, that was a close game too !
So far fantastic world cup this

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 10:20:58 PM   
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CHI - CHI - CHI - LE - LE - LE - VIVA CHILE MIE.....

I´m speechless.

We actually beat the world champion and are already classified!!!



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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 10:25:08 PM   
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They are heading on, Spain heading home. Only question now is can they win the Group. Great stuff!

PS - I wonder if Vegas had a prop bet for Spain being eliminated before the US? If so, I wonder what the odds were, and if anyone placed a bet. If so, they are very happy tonight too.


I can remember only once to be as proud, it was when the 33 MINEROS got out!!

However our next rival is Holland...and that looks tough.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/18/2014 11:15:11 PM   
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Congrats to Chile, 2 amazing games!
I bet tonight's going to be big party

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/19/2014 1:05:49 AM   
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Y'all should be proud. Two games against scrappy and then against quality and Chile prevailed without much of a sweat. The miners saga was an awesome moment. We were all Chileans that day.

Australia should not go home sad, however. They fought hard and went down swinging. Just need a little more quality and they can compete.

I fear for England tomorrow but will stand with them as my ancestral homeland (last name Rogers).

I fear to hope for the USA but have a good feeling. Set up perfectly against shorthanded Portugal with full knowledge of what we need since Germany-Ghana is the day before.

A Colombian friend of mine is excited but he made a very good point: "You know, Italy is just hanging around this tournament and could swoop down at any moment." Hmmm.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/19/2014 9:50:41 AM   
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It's been a fantastic tournament so far. Loved that Australia-Netherlands game. Sat down after a long hot day in London and had a pint with a bunch of just off work types and it was fun and festive, lots of shouting at the TV and whops for both sides. Quality pluck from the Aussies, and that Cahill goal is right there with Van Persie's from the Spain game.

Looking forward to tonight, but England has to prove something. Finish!! Heading to a pub with friends, and if it's a loss it'll be pretty depressing. Have to do it though.

Haven't seen Chile-Spain highlights yet, but wow, what a result.


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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/19/2014 10:10:14 AM   
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PS - In the building where I live there are England, Brazil, Mexico, France and Ghanaian flags in the windows!

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/19/2014 10:33:53 AM   
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I think England will have a tough time playing Uruguay tonight.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/19/2014 10:39:34 AM   
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PS - In the building where I live there are England, Brazil, Mexico, France and Ghanaian flags in the windows!

Nice mix

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/19/2014 11:47:11 AM   
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PS - In the building where I live there are England, Brazil, Mexico, France and Ghanaian flags in the windows!

Nice mix


The Ghanaian one I hadn't seen, but my fiancé knew it because one of her friends used to date a Ghanaian man. Cool.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/19/2014 5:33:51 PM   
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Y'all should be proud. Two games against scrappy and then against quality and Chile prevailed without much of a sweat. The miners saga was an awesome moment. We were all Chileans that day.

Thank you Cribtop. Maybe a teesny bit OT, but I'm glad that people remember. It's kinda what being a human being is all about, yeah?

Oh, they sweated, believe me. This was a side I have never seen before. They were very forward and agressive, but had defense organized exquisitely well. Ok, some open lanes, but jezus they shut them like a barn door when they had to. This is a really good, tactically proficient, side.

So now the Netherlands and out of the Groupo. A different paradigm. So, how well is the spider's web going to stand up against the agression of 900 lb gorillas? Wish I could be a fly on the wall for Sampaoli's planning.

Watched Australia v Netherlands Saw some holes in the dutchness, but .... Kinda like what I thought. Australia was tactically adept, but the Dutch were seriously agressive and were willing to take some fouls in order to shove it down Aussie throat. Australia was its usual scrappy self, but just got overwhelmed by the Netherland's power. Woof !!

Well, we will see what we see. No matter what, I am proud to be Chilean.

Ciao. John

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/19/2014 5:42:08 PM   
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Anyone watching the Colombia - Ivory Coast game?

What a second half!!

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/19/2014 5:44:31 PM   
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Anyone watching the Colombia - Ivory Coast game?

What a second half!!
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Yet another superb game!


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