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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/22/2014 8:05:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Most games have been good so far, but personally I am disappointed about the lack of star power of the big teams. There are a lot of very good tier 2 players, but only a handful of great ones. Take Brazil for example. The likes of Ronaldo (the real one), Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Roberto Carlos and Cafu will not be seen in the same squad again I'm afraid, with the direction modern football is heading.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/22/2014 9:08:46 PM   
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In modern highspeed football we really need some kind of video proof ! Let´s say every team can ask two times a match for a video evidence ...

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/23/2014 12:07:04 AM   
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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/23/2014 12:23:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		Such a gut punch for USA. We played so much better but one flub early and one loss of possession by Bradley late.

Going in, we would have taken 4 points through 2 games. The way it played out, it feels like a loss.

However, we can still get this done. Need to focus against Germany.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/23/2014 12:49:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Soccer almost had 4 new fans until Portugal scored with the overage time.  I thought the US played better than Portugal.  But I don't know soccer.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/23/2014 5:01:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow, tough to tie that one. Our guys are good. Let's hope the Germans come into the game overconfident.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/23/2014 6:35:04 AM   
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Soccer almost had 4 new fans until Portugal scored with the overage time.  I thought the US played better than Portugal.  But I don't know soccer.


US play better but better not always win.


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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/23/2014 10:26:28 AM   
koniu


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Wow, tough to tie that one. Our guys are good. Let's hope the Germans come into the game overconfident.

Cheers,
CC

I think they will play as serous as Germans can. They have no margin for error. After tie with Ghana they will probably try to dominate USA win game and show next opponents that they are going for championship. Difficult job for US team, very difficult.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/23/2014 11:04:02 AM   
tocaff


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Status: offline 		The road to a championship is always difficult so here's to the USA team and the hope of advancing to the knockout round. If you check many of the teams have stumbled through so far.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/23/2014 1:29:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is a low chance that the US will not get through. The Worldcup is like the UK Premier League in tie breakers - goal differential first, then goals scored, then head to head. Right now the US has +1, Ghana -1, Portugal -4. And the US has scored one more goal then Ghana - 4 vs 3. So if the US lose by one, and Ghana win by one, tying the goal differential - then the US would still get through based on the third tie breaker head to head. If the US score 1 but still lose, Ghana would need a two goal victory margin over Portugal. And so on.... A Portugal victory would have to be a very high goal victory to catch up on goal difference.

As a neutral though, I don't think Ghana qualifying would be a tragedy either. I think their game vs Germany was superb, and they maybe should have won, while they did not deserve to lose to the US either in the first game. The US showed really nice football in their second game, easily deserving to win. So to me either team going through is fine.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/23/2014 4:16:41 PM   
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Free stream on deportesenvivo. univision.com It's in Spanish, too. Guess who they are pulling for?

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/23/2014 6:14:58 PM   
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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/23/2014 6:17:50 PM   
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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/23/2014 6:46:38 PM   
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Chile fell getting the short ed of the stick 2-0.

Yes, she did, but it was one of the most exciting games I've seen so far. The midfield work was exceptional for both sides and defense was great till Holande scored that late goal. Think Chile had a mental blivet "we gotta get a tie" and let that last goal through pure inattention. Ah, well, that's futbol. No lágrimas. Mañana será otro día. Ciao. John

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/23/2014 6:59:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well played game. Both sides look dangerous. Brazil will get all it wants with Chile next game (unless they blow Group A). A test of whether Brazil will flip the switch or continue iffy form. Will be a great match.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/23/2014 7:13:20 PM   
tocaff


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Status: offline 		Brazil has a history of improving play once they advance from the group stage. Of course there is always a buzz saw looming, but 5 stars says something.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/24/2014 4:55:12 PM   
Symon


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Well played game. Both sides look dangerous. Brazil will get all it wants with Chile next game (unless they blow Group A). A test of whether Brazil will flip the switch or continue iffy form. Will be a great match.

Yes. You are one of the few Americans that understands futbol. Will be a great match. Hate this forum nonsense. Signing off, now.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/24/2014 6:00:53 PM   
tocaff


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Status: offline 		My biggest gripe about this competition is that for the most part the officiating has been inconsistent at best and downright shameful at it's worst. There have been very good games where the officials have done a great job, but that doesn't happen often enough.

It's also time for FIFA and all of the regional associations to step up and do something about players like Louis Suarez. The kind of conduct he has always shown shouldn't be tolerated.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/24/2014 6:18:18 PM   
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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/24/2014 6:34:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		He's also not right in the head. I mean how many cameras are there at a World Cup game?

Maybe his injury will see him play little or no further part and so he decided to take one for the team (trying to get a penalty or a reaction from the Italian and so get him sent off). This would be inexcusable enough - but if not - and instead he simply couldn't control his base instincts when playing on the biggest of all stages - then he badly needs treatment....

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/24/2014 6:37:13 PM   
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Suarez is an idiot. For people that do not know, it's the third time in his career that he has bitten someone on the pitch...

Yeah, and you are obviously someone who we should listen to.

Kiss my grits. JWE.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/24/2014 6:40:20 PM   
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Suarez is an idiot. For people that do not know, it's the third time in his career that he has bitten someone on the pitch...

Yeah, and you are obviously someone who we should listen to.

Kiss my grits. JWE.
warspite1

EDIT: Post deleted - to hell with that. Not my argument.


< Message edited by warspite1 -- 6/24/2014 8:20:01 PM >

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/24/2014 6:49:43 PM   
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Long ban coming methinks

On a totally unrelated topic, just how poor were England again?

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/24/2014 6:57:27 PM   
tocaff


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Status: offline 		If Real Madrid really make a sweet offer to buy Suarez from Liverpool then Liverpool has an out with a player that is more trouble than he's worth.

A clear message to all players would be to hand out a lifetime ban to Suarez. Hit them in the wallet and they'll get the message. In all probability though that won't happen and he'll cause more troubles down the road.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/24/2014 7:11:05 PM   
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Bite 2

Bite 3

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/24/2014 7:43:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know much about soccer. Watching the Italy match. On the yellow card against Italy the announcers kept saying it was "over the ball". The collision looked no worse than many others and actually less than many others. Why was it a yellow card? It happened three feet from the official, but other than that it didn't look that bad. Nothing like the over-the-head-knee-to-the-noggin yellow Italy got earlier.

Edit: Sorry. I meant the red card.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/24/2014 7:51:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		So onto the next round of games tonight. Who will join Colombia in the next round? Greece or Cote d'Ivoire?

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/24/2014 7:51:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		He didn't aim for the ball and the way you could explain it is his objective was to injure the other player. It was worth a red card, it was a silly place and it was right under the refs nose...

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/24/2014 8:01:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Over the ball tackles (where the tackling player kicks the offended player's leg higher than the height of the ball) have a higher percentage chance of inflicting serious injury, including broken legs. They are also seen as more intentional as if the player was going for the ball he wouldn't kick the leg above it. Some are still unintentional but it's akin to a chop block in American football - a play likely enough to result in injury that intent is not the most important factor.

As for Suarez, well, he could be in trouble.

PS - Oops, Cannonfodder beat me to it.

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RE: Really OT : World Cup 2014 - 6/24/2014 8:03:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

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ORIGINAL: Symon


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ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder
Suarez is an idiot. For people that do not know, it's the third time in his career that he has bitten someone on the pitch...

Yeah, and you are obviously someone who we should listen to.

Kiss my grits. JWE.
warspite1

EDIT: Post deleted - to hell with that. Not my argument.



Nor mine..


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