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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 7/25/2014 11:59:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

To avoid the 'dreaded' page 2, I'll post a short note.

Right now I'm thinking about having the hybrid CLV/CAV/CVLs be added to each of the 5 American heavy CVs. There are four at start with a fifth (CVL King's Mountain) coming in with CV Yorktown at end of Dec 41. Anybody who has followed some of my posting knows that I will place a 18 plane Marine fighter group on my American CVs (except Wasp) through most of 42. In July 42, the American CV fighter groups expand to 36 planes. Add in the 36 SBD and 15 Avengers and you get 87. Too much to keep the 18 plane Marine groups. However, I can switch the Marines over to the hybrids which often can hold just 18 planes and take off their two groups (12 fighters and 6 SBD). The 12 plane fighters can go to the CVs and I'll keep the 36 plane newly expanded groups short a few. Right now, I could keep them all and have the total be 99 planes. I'll keep the total 2 to 4 below the 110% level. My word for 42 for CVs is Survivability!!

For those unfamiliar with RA and now BTS, the Allies can convert some AV and AKVs to CVEs which I do.


I think this pairing of CV and CVL is perfect and you have have a very effective plan for the use of the air groups verse carrier deck space. That will also give us some shore based SDBs and possibly place one of the size 6 SDBs on the Wasp. You can either train with the rest for forward deploy them with the Marine Dive Bomber air units.

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 7/25/2014 12:04:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I like doing that too, and I tend to be quite aggressive with the allied CV compliment early on and set ambush zones. Are you saying you will be playing fleet in being in the early months? Unless Cribtop keeps KB together, you can get a freebie, and turn the game quickly. Combine that with active naval counterpulse in DEI, and many empire players fall well short of their expansion goals. Over the years, I have grown to the opinion that it is appropriate to expense as many allied naval assets as necessary to turn the enemy quickly. It will be interesting to see how the extra empire strength is used.

I'll be watching to see if you play the early Kuril's card to throw him off his game.

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 7/25/2014 12:38:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wasp will probably get the Wildcat recon unit or part of one broken down. They come in early 42 and need to be trained up first in Air and then Recon skills.

Plans are to find where 2 of 3 of KB components are (remember that KB is broken down into three TFs with 2 CVs and a CVL each) and go play were they are NOT!! 4 CVs and 2 CVLs will probably end up off Pearl and the third is starting at Babeldaob (Soryu and Hiryu). By end of Jan '42, I'll have four CVs and 5 of my hybrids in SoPac or beyond. Saratoga may head to Aluetians initially to halt any quick move to Umnak and further east. Hopefully, the modern CLs at Pearl are not hit as they will go north too.

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 7/26/2014 12:50:48 AM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 7/26/2014 5:18:39 AM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/2/2014 2:49:54 AM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/3/2014 12:24:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		John and I decided to modify the great work Symon/JWE did with integrating the latest DBB changes into RA that was used for the bases for BTS. One area was the ability for the Allies to have a few of the Australian brigades to recombine into full divisions. We allow the 6th and 7th to come back like they have been doing to date in every other game. In Australia, three brigades now have a small HQ battalion come in mid-June and mid-November allowing the 1st and then the 2nd Australian Divisions to be rebuilt. They is no 3rd, 4th, or 8th Division within BTS now.

Both RA 7.0 and BTS have significant changes made in the Australian OOB (plus new bases there), Dutch and Philippine OOB to be aware of.

I made small errors with those HQ battalions that I thought I had done correctly until this morning. Now that I've made the corrections, Cribtop has the newest mod files and can proceed with his 1st turn.

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/3/2014 1:32:18 PM   
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I made small errors with those HQ battalions that I thought I had done correctly until this morning. Now that I've made the corrections, Cribtop has the newest mod files and can proceed with his 1st turn.



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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/4/2014 9:20:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Wasp will probably get the Wildcat recon unit or part of one broken down. They come in early 42 and need to be trained up first in Air and then Recon skills.

Plans are to find where 2 of 3 of KB components are (remember that KB is broken down into three TFs with 2 CVs and a CVL each) and go play were they are NOT!! 4 CVs and 2 CVLs will probably end up off Pearl and the third is starting at Babeldaob (Soryu and Hiryu). By end of Jan '42, I'll have four CVs and 5 of my hybrids in SoPac or beyond. Saratoga may head to Aluetians initially to halt any quick move to Umnak and further east. Hopefully, the modern CLs at Pearl are not hit as they will go north too.


Remember that Wasp is Yorktown Class in BTS.


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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/4/2014 9:21:16 PM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/6/2014 2:20:20 PM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/7/2014 11:08:19 AM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/9/2014 12:21:43 PM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/9/2014 12:44:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Returned PM from Cribtop this morning as he is unsure if he has mod installed correctly. Went through installing DBB and then upgrading it to BTS (RA based). Hope to have turn from him on Sunday (crosses fingers).



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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/9/2014 10:00:55 PM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/9/2014 10:07:13 PM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/10/2014 12:45:12 AM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/13/2014 4:21:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Cribtop is on page 4 of his AAR and he is still working on the first turn. What kind of mischief are they planning over there?? Invading USA and/or Russia in early '42??

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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/13/2014 5:46:37 PM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/14/2014 12:16:40 AM   
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Problem is he cannot FIND the kingdom...


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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/15/2014 1:12:38 AM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/15/2014 2:15:04 AM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/16/2014 12:05:26 PM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/16/2014 2:36:23 PM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/17/2014 3:00:07 PM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/18/2014 11:54:57 AM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/18/2014 12:03:54 PM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/18/2014 12:10:20 PM   
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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/18/2014 4:13:16 PM   
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I'm re-reading Tom Clancy novels again, so I'm keeping busy. The Chinese are getting ready to invade Russia in "The Bear and The Dragon." Started off with "Hunt for Red October" a few months ago.


I think that I shall turn 49 before you get the 1st Turn...


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RE: NFC East Slapdown: NY59Giants (A) vs Cribtop (J) - ... - 8/18/2014 4:25:06 PM   
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Thankfully, his wife is a mental health counselor so he will not need my counsel.

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