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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/29/2014 11:01:11 PM   
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World War II could be about to start anytime now!

No! This has got to stop!

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Stop? It's only just about to start


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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/29/2014 11:07:36 PM   
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MOT
MECH DIV
ART
AT

Italy:
INF

Japan:
MIL (Kor)
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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/29/2014 11:10:40 PM   
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World War II could be about to start anytime now!

No! This has got to stop!

warspite1

Stop? It's only just about to start


If those references are going to continue then I am going to conclude that you, secretly, like that movie. Capice!

< Message edited by Orm -- 8/30/2014 12:11:04 AM >


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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/29/2014 11:14:47 PM   
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ARM
AT
HMS Conqueror
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USS Juneau
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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/29/2014 11:17:26 PM   
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Axis 5:1 Allies
Re-roll
Axis 5:3 Allies

Weather 6 = Fine everywhere.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/29/2014 11:21:12 PM   
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World War II could be about to start anytime now!

No! This has got to stop!

warspite1

Stop? It's only just about to start


If those references are going to continue then I am going to conclude that you, secretly, like that movie. Capice!
warspite1

What's not to like




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 12:38:37 AM   
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I feel bad for the Soviets having their army up front like that. They're going to take it on the chin this summer.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 5:13:05 AM   
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I feel bad for the Soviets having their army up front like that. They're going to take it on the chin this summer.
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Where would a seasoned WIF player set the Soviets up?


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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 5:26:47 AM   
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The Axis really need to make this turn count. Its too early in the game to commit naval assets in support of the Greek campaign, so all attention is focused on land.

Just two ground strikes are ordered in this impulse - one against the out of supply Soviet army east of Memel and the other against the 1st Greek Mountain Corps.


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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 5:30:16 AM   
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The Soviet air force is massively out-numbered so close to East Prussia and so does not contest the hex.

The result is a 66% success for the Stuka, and being out of supply, this will reduce the Soviet defensive capability.




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 5:32:05 AM   
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The equally well equipped sister aircraft successfully attacks the Greeks defending the mountain passes in front of Athens.




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 5:49:07 AM   
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There are 5 attacks planned this impulse, against:

- the Greek Mountain corps defending the approaches to Athens
- a Soviet Motorised Corps south of the Pripyat Marshes
- a Soviet Tank Army east of Lvov
- the surrounded Soviets forces in Lithuania
- a lone Soviet cavalry unit on the coast west of Riga

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 5:58:10 AM   
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Only in Lithuania do the Germans fly ground support.

The CW can reduce the odds in the Greek mountains (I brought no fighter cover ) but will need to use a precious Sunderland to do so. The RAF declines the invitation.

The Soviets can bring aircraft to a number of hexes but in the south they are out-gunned by two German fighters and in the north, they are out-numbered in Lithuania and can barely alter the odds in Latvia. They too decline to provide support. This is the first impulse in what could be a very long turn....



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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 6:01:30 AM   
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So then - here goes:

First its the Greek Campaign. Its 3:1 no modifiers on the Assault table....

....what do you know? its another 6. The Greek defender is destroyed for no loss but all Axis forces are disorganised.




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 6:08:19 AM   
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To the forests of Lithuania now. The odds are 5:1 +2 on the Blitz table...

...another 6(8). The Soviets lose two units - an Engineer and an Infantry Army, while the 4th Mechanised Army is shattered. I convert to a retreat on the basis that the Soviets cannot retreat and so is also destroyed. "Good kill" as Steiner would say in Cross of Iron.




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 6:12:55 AM   
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The last attack in the north is that on the lone cavalry unit. Its a 7:1 no modifiers on the Blitz table...

...Wow. Random dice? Its a....drum roll....a 6(8)! Not sure why it was modified to an 8? But anyway, the Soviet unit is no more.




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 6:18:38 AM   
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For the 4th attack the setting is the forest south of the Pripyat Marshes. It's 4:1 no modifiers but the Germans miscalculate by not having a Panzer Corps available - it will therefore be decided on the Assault table....

...its an 8. The Soviet 1st Motorised Army is destroyed but, vitally, the Germans are not disorganised. That was a lucky break..




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 6:22:59 AM   
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And so to the final attack where once again the Germans have failed to bring sufficient Armour to the party. Its a 5:1 no modifiers on the Assault table....

...quite bizarre. Another 6! The Soviet 3rd Tank Army is no more and once again the Germans have not been disorganised. This has been a highly encouraging start to Barbarossa.




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 6:33:12 AM   
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Mmmm.. the Russian Front looks pretty bad - especially in the south.




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 6:36:10 AM   
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Greece is not looking great either, though at least there are two units in Athens and I can try and get the Royal Navy to intervene.

Edit: I've just realised I forgot to organise some German units with Rommel




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 6:42:30 AM   
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I feel bad for the Soviets having their army up front like that. They're going to take it on the chin this summer.
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Where would a seasoned WIF player set the Soviets up?


And I thought things looked good for USSR with a nice enough set up. I predict that the German offence is stopped, permanently, after this summer.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 6:44:54 AM   
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Greece is not looking great either, though at least there are two units in Athens and I can try and get the Royal Navy to intervene.

Edit: I've just realised I forgot to organise some German units with Rommel




Where are the CW land units? Why are there not several of them in Greece by now?

I hope they are, at least, about to capture some Italian minors.

Not all of them can be in Malaysia!

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 7:15:03 AM   
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Greece is not looking great either, though at least there are two units in Athens and I can try and get the Royal Navy to intervene.

Edit: I've just realised I forgot to organise some German units with Rommel




Where are the CW land units? Why are there not several of them in Greece by now?

I hope they are, at least, about to capture some Italian minors.

Not all of them can be in Malaysia!
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Because you are assuming a level of competence at this game that I simply do not possess

I know they are really boring to build, but in future I am going to build large numbers of TRS and AMPH. Having so few means juggling their positioning all over the globe - Oz, South Africa, Canada - and forget New Zealand!

So yes, a CW presence in Greece would be ideal right now, and I'm getting there...slowly.


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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 7:31:37 AM   
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The RN provides a show of strength in the Eastern Mediterranean led by HMS Warspite which provides distant cover for a key military convoy - The advance guard of a "huge" Allied Expeditionary Force (yeah right ) is being transported to Greece. "Do not worry peeps of Greece - the 4th Motorised Corps is here!

Write-up for the 4th Motorised Corps:

This corps was formed in Scotland in January 1940 under Lieutenant-General Claude Auchinleck. At this time the British and French were tentatively looking at ways to stop the supply of Iron Ore from Sweden to Germany. Realistically the only way of doing this on a permanent basis was to land troops in neutral Norway, and then send them overland to Sweden.

Clearly, this was a difficult thing to attempt given that the Allies were fighting the Germans in the name of freedom! As an excuse for this operation, the British and French would state they were providing assistance to Finland in their war with the Soviet Union (although there was no intention of providing such help).

In the end the plan was not carried out, and the Germans beat the Allies to a landing in Norway. Although the British and French did react to the German invasion, 4th Corps itself was never employed there and the inadequate force actually deployed was forced to retreat after a very humiliating campaign.

Thereafter the British IV Corps was put to work training most of the armoured reserves preparing to face the proposed German invasion of Britain. It had the 2nd and 9th Armoured Divisions under its command together with other independent armoured brigades.

When the Japanese entered the war on 7th December 1941, the corps was sent to India and became the 4th Indian Corps, part of the British Indian Army fighting as part of 14th Army. 4th Indian Corps under Lt-General G Scoones would be heavily involved in the vital Imphal Kohima battle (Mar-Jun 1944) when the Japanese attacked in order to destroy the airfields supplying the Chinese army.

During this battle its three Divisions came under intense pressure for over 2 months and ultimately held their positions around Imphal but it was a close run thing and the 17th Division came close to being surrounded and destroyed. Having held firm, 4th Corps was able to resume the offensive once reinforcements had arrived.
This battle ultimately saw the heaviest defeat in the history of the Japanese army.

For Imphal Kohima the 4th Corps had the following Divisions under command:
• 17th Indian Infantry Division (48th and 63rd Indian Brigades)
• 20th Indian Infantry Division (32nd, 80th and 100th Indian Brigades)
• 23rd Indian Infantry Division (1st, 37th (Gurkha) and 49th Indian Brigades)
• 254th Indian Tank Brigade (3rd Carabineers, 3rd Bn 4th Bombay Grenadiers, 7th Light Cavalry, 11th
P.A.V.O Cavalry and 150th Royal Armoured Corps Regt)

In 1945 the Corps was re-organised as a Mechanized unit under Lt-General Frank Messervy. The Corps was involved in the battle of Meiktila and then spearheaded the capture of Rangoon, the Burmese capital. The units within the corps for these operations were:
• 7th Indian Infantry Division (33rd, 114th and 161st Indian Brigades)
• 17th Indian Infantry Division (48th, 63rd and 99th Indian Brigades)
• 19th Indian Infantry Division (replaced by 5th Indian Infantry Division (9th, 123rd, and 161st Indian Brigades))
• 255th Indian Tank Brigade (110th Royal Armoured Corps Regt, 5th K.E.O Lancers, 16th Light Cavalry, 4th
Bn 4th Bombay Grenadiers)

After Rangoon, the unit spent the remainder of the war mopping up remaining Japanese from Burma.

• Key Campaigns: Burma (1943-1945)




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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 7:49:11 AM   
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The Soviets eschew any thoughts of ground strikes - even where German fighters cannot reach. There is simply no way of knowing at this stage where the front line will end up. Having a load of disorganised aircraft is just asking for trouble.

The Soviets decide, in time honoured fashion, to trade space for time. They will attempt to hold the Dvina to protect the approaches to Leningrad and all along the front a general pull-back is ordered.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 8:06:59 AM   
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With the pull-back complete, the turn advances. A weather roll of 6 means Rain in the Northern Monsoon but is otherwise Fine.

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 8:55:45 AM   
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The Italians want to put pressure on the British in the Eastern Mediterranean, but to do that they need assistance from the German air force - the Germans simply cannot spare the activity cost.

So to the key theatre - The Russian Front. Adolf Hitler decided its time to use an Offensive Chit. Erich von Manstein is the man entrusted with the Chit.

There will be no ground strikes this turn - the Germans need to get their aircraft forward.





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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 9:17:41 AM   
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I am such a pilchard!

I have not brought the required number of units to one of the hexes from which I am attacking with an Offensive Chit... for $%^& sake ....

Adolf Hitler: Manstein why are you not attacking in full strength?
Erich von Manstein: Er..er its what I meant to do Mein Fuhrer - it's all under control.
AH: You better be right Manstein or I wouldn't like to be in your shoes
EvM: Don't worry mein Fuhrer I know what I'm doing, unlike that warspite geezer...

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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 9:22:31 AM   
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There will be six attacks along the Eastern Front, including one all Romanian operation - that should be interesting . The attacks are against:

- a Soviet Motorised Army west of Odessa
- three hexes in western Ukraine
- Vilna
- the hex exactly halfway between Vilna and Riga.....

The Soviets would love to put up defensive HQ Support but this could leave the HQ's disorganised and canonfodder for future impulses.

The Germans do not want to use such support either in case their forces outrun their supply lines.

For the attack on Vilna the Germans bring in two bombers and a fighter to up the odds. Note to self: Always have rubbish bombers available to add the odd 1 or 2 points to save using up good aircraft!

The Soviets think the Germans are taking the mickey - but once again they refuse to fly. They would need three fighters to get fighter parity - and those aircraft would then be vulnerable to overrun.



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RE: Bob Flemin's MWIF AARse IV - Nice AArse - 8/30/2014 9:48:30 AM   
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EvM: Don't worry mein Fuhrer I know what I'm doing, unlike that warspite geezer

The cool Mr Warspite rules the waves so some respect would be welcome. He certainly have earned it.

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