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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 1/7/2015 2:33:43 AM   
Sangeli


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ORIGINAL: Mundy
All my forces for this are at Pearl, so I have nothing he can really watch right now. I've picked out five islands to hit. Everything's moving at once, so it will be a very sudden thunderclap when it hits.

Ya, I get that. I'm just of the belief that a sudden thunderclap will draw a sudden response and that could really backfire. I see strategic benefits to a sudden move (i.e. getting a head start nf the Japanese in occupying the area) but at the same time there are some tactical concerns I have. Mainly I fear that once the Japanese detect this rather significant operation that the KB will come flying into the picture at full speed. You won't be able to see it coming and you won't be able to stop it; the only defense you have is to get out of the way before the KB gets the battlefield. Which means the only safe way you can pull this OP off is to A. Draw out the KB somewhere else or B. get out before the KB can hit you which is a very small window (1-2 days). Otherwise you're putting the success of the whole operation in a dice roll on whether the KB is close and willing to sortie.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 1/7/2015 12:04:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		The thing is that I don't know what I could do to entice a KB response elsewhere.  Would they really respond to something like a bombardment mission somewhere?  (Darwin/Port Moresby).  I'm not sure an actual invasion of Port Moresby would do it at this point.

I could form up a massive cargo TF and wave it around south of PM to see if anything happens.

The last RN carrier withdrew about a week ago, so no help on that front.

I suppose I could grab just one of the outlying islands, and slowly work inward, but I don't want to have to deal with a sudden influx of Betties if he sees the trend.  I'm not sure he'd drain Rabaul or Noumea to do this, though.  I would consider a cheap and dirty landing at PM if he did so, but I have no long range recon assets to determine this.

Bif1961, I haven't really checked the convoys to see what their spotted status was.  I don't recall seeing any recon plane incidents when they passed through.

Not much to report from last turn.  My night bombers managed one hit on light industry.  The first of my B-17 squadrons in-theatre is up to strength and deployed to Hyderabad.  They're hitting Calcutta overnight also with the Wellingtons.  The mediums there are retasked to hit the Japanese that entered Vizagapatnam, with escorts.  They're pretty tank heavy.  I'm waiting for my new Vengeance squadron to get repaired up, as they'll make a difference.  Cocanada is seriously beefed up with troops right now, with three divisions plus artillery present.  More bombers are landing and another 2-3 are enroute and only a few days away.  Most of these incoming bomber squadrons are at their previous 8 strength and not up to the newly reformed 12.  Pools are a bit short for that right now.  Sufficient air support is starting to become an issue.  Hyderabad will be my main hub for the strategic bombing effort.  I need to keep enough fighters there to guard against any retaliation, but I don't think Helens can make that right now.  My northern bases are pretty much all fighters and Lysanders.  A bunch of Marines are inbound, but still off-map.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 1/7/2015 5:07:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mundy
The thing is that I don't know what I could do to entice a KB response elsewhere.  Would they really respond to something like a bombardment mission somewhere?  (Darwin/Port Moresby).  I'm not sure an actual invasion of Port Moresby would do it at this point.

Bombardment mission isn't going to draw the KB out. Darwin is not usually critical to Japan except to delay but a Port Moresby invasion might do the trick. And if it doesn't draw the KB well at least you have Port Moresby! Assuming it goes all well...
quote:

ORIGINAL: Mundy
I suppose I could grab just one of the outlying islands, and slowly work inward, but I don't want to have to deal with a sudden influx of Betties if he sees the trend.  I'm not sure he'd drain Rabaul or Noumea to do this, though.  I would consider a cheap and dirty landing at PM if he did so, but I have no long range recon assets to determine this.

If it were me I would probably go with a middling alternative unlikely to draw significant attention like the simultaneous occupation of 1-2 islands with the follow up forces safely to the rear if the Japanese do respond. The Betty threat isn't such an issue though...check out Japanese air bases and your SigInt. Does he have an air HQ in Nauru or Tarawa? What level are his air bases? I suspect that the entire region is underdeveloped and the Japanese lack the ability to project power in the Gilberts with LBA. I don't think you have the prep to take Tabiteuea by surprise so I think you may have to settle for the simultaneous occupations of Beru/Onatoa with follow up operations in Nikunau and Arorae. Once you can get 4E and P-38's flying here you'll dominate the region. Just don't bring a bunch of BBs and CVEs which make CF think about a sortie; I don't think you need CVE cover for the OP and cruisers are a better option in underdeveloped and under-reconnaissanced area where you may need to make a quick getaway. Worst case you lose a handful of transports, cruisers, and a few land units. I suspect the real battles will be Japanese countermoves when they start seeing dot hexes turn into bases.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 1/7/2015 6:39:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'll have to check my options.

Timing will be big with something like this.  I'm guessing a minimum of 2 divisions for PM -- probably all US, due to OOB/PP issues.  Americal's in Perth right now.  I'd also have to round up the base units to get PM's airfield up and running immediately.  I could probably LRCAP everything with Beaufighters until they get within Zeke range.  I have lots of Flak in Oz, which would have to go over also to deal with the inevitable raids from Rabaul. I don't know if he's developed Lae or not -- probably not.

I probably won't get the next turn out in a half hour like I usually do. 

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 1/7/2015 6:59:50 PM   
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Timing will be big with something like this.  I'm guessing a minimum of 2 divisions for PM -- probably all US, due to OOB/PP issues.  Americal's in Perth right now.

I'm not sure 2 is sufficient for PM. 3x terrain with forts. Typically you can expect at least a full Japanese division plus support units there. If that were the case you'd need 3 full divisions plus a fair amount of tanks/arty/etc to take the base. Perhaps there are lower hanging fruit in the region?

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 1/7/2015 8:10:29 PM   
Mundy


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Status: offline 		There's always Milne Bay, but lots of airplanes can cover that. Maybe Horn Island...

12 September 1942

This brought a tear to my eye when I saw it start...

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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 6414 troops, 214 guns, 69 vehicles, Assault Value = 1461

Defending force 145171 troops, 235 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3548

Japanese adjusted assault: 0

Allied adjusted defense: 11831

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 6)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
5716 casualties reported
Squads: 86 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 171 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 17 (17 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
63rd Division
13th Tank Regiment
15th Division
14th Division
41st/C Division
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Army
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
4th Mortar Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
5th New Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
23rd Chinese Corps
11th Chinese Corps
56th Chinese Corps
71st Chinese Corps
7th Construction Regiment
9th Separate Brigade
10th Construction Regiment
8th Construction Regiment
8th Chinese Corps
3rd Construction Regiment
60th Chinese Corps
19th Chinese Corps
303rd Brigade
100th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
29th Chinese Corps
7th New Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Corps
58th Chinese Corps
91st Chinese Corps
95th Chinese Corps
12th Construction Regiment
10th Chinese Base Force
13th Group Army
25th Group Army
3rd Group Army
38th Group Army
14th Group Army
18th Artillery Regiment
36th Group Army
16th Construction Regiment
37th Group Army
1st Chinese Base Force
49th AA Regiment
19th Chinese Base Force
10th Group Army
7th Group Army
56th AT Gun Regiment
23rd Group Army
CAF HQ
1st Artillery Regiment
17th Group Army
3rd Chinese Base Force
China Command
Central Reserve
Lusu War Area
14th Chinese Base Force
1st War Area
15th Group Army
4th Chinese Base Force
24th Chinese Corps
7th Artillery Regiment
Red Chinese Army
21st Chinese Base Force


I'm not sure what prompted that -- impatience maybe. One arty unit is bombarding to gauge his strength.

Things aren't quite as strong at Kumming.

quote:

Ground combat at Kunming (69,48)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10998 troops, 137 guns, 48 vehicles, Assault Value = 381

Defending force 5723 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 89

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 420

Allied adjusted defense: 244

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
429 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 32 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 9 disabled

Allied ground losses:
295 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 22 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
5th Guards/A Division
2nd Militia Regiment
5th Guards/C Division
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
21st Medium Field Artillery Battalion
21st Army

Defending units:
259th Brigade
54th Chinese Corps
34th Separate Brigade
NCAC
11th Group Army


I also got driven out of Vizagapatnam with his tank horde.

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Ground combat at Vizagapatnam (42,37)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 7692 troops, 113 guns, 566 vehicles, Assault Value = 424

Defending force 4381 troops, 40 guns, 41 vehicles, Assault Value = 141

Japanese adjusted assault: 718

Allied adjusted defense: 11

Japanese assault odds: 65 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Vizagapatnam !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: op mode(-), leaders(-), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
35 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
2492 casualties reported
Squads: 57 destroyed, 93 disabled
Non Combat: 75 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 23 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 40 (19 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Vehicles lost 29 (27 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
2nd Tank Regiment
1st Tank Division
14th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
26th Indian Brigade


I'm not drawing any supply to Cocanada for some reason, despite having 80,000 at Madras. I noticed Bezwada was set at zero draw, so I upped it there, hoping it will help. I need supplies there pronto. I can't even build right now. Cargo supplies are currently unloading at Karachi from Abadan.

Bombers, day and night didn't fly from Hyderabad for some reason.

A full squadron of B-18s have arrived at Karachi, now railing for Bombay.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 1/7/2015 11:01:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		In addition to Base supply draw, it tends to go to the biggest concentration of troops. If you have put a lot of troops up in Bombay and Karachi, most of the supply will want to go there, and base supply draw is needed to get it moving elsewhere.
Supply is also throttled from movement beyond undeveloped bases. If Bezwada is a dot base, supply will move at a trickle beyond that point. Muddy roads, I guess!

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 1/8/2015 11:50:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would say Cocanada is fairly dense with troops right now.  I can't trust memory, but I'm pretty sure Bezwada wasn't a dot base, though I'm not sure if troops present there would help things.  It's supply draw was set to zero before, which may have choked it off.

Everyone in India's set to receive replacements and upgrades, which I know is a good part of my supply draw, in addition to all the building going on.

I had cleaned Abadan out of supplies, thought they're recently built up again.  Industry in India itself isn't keeping up very well.  I have huge amounts of fuel in Bombay and Karachi.

I'm moving more base units into Hyderabad.  It will be a serious bomber hub before I'm through.  I'll need plenty of guard fighters if/when CF figures the source out.

My Lexingtons are due for yard work again in a few weeks.  I may wait with the invasions until then.  the 1.1" guns are getting swapped out for 40mm guns, which will help defenses greatly.  Looks like a three week job.  I've found in Babes scenarios that dive bombers don't like massed 40mm guns.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 1/8/2015 7:18:01 PM   
Mundy


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The IJA has arrived at Cocanada. Three units, armor heavy. I have 3-1/3 good divisions there -- Two UK, one Indian, one Indian brigade. Two units of artillery too. One of 25 lbr and one 4.2"

The base is low on supply, but the units look to be mostly supplied themselves.

This flew in daytime. I thought I had them set to night, but overlooked it.

quote:

Morning Air attack on Jamshedpur , at 51,34

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 9

No Allied losses

Heavy Industry hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Wellington Ic bombing from 6000 feet *
City Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb


One bomber unloading at Karachi, and one more inbound.

Lots of bombers set to hit Cocanada. P-38s and P-40s escorting. More bombers reaching from Bombay.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 1/9/2015 7:34:58 PM   
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I took a shot at Chungking, after his disastrous attack there. Despite the losses, the odds were okay.

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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2313 troops, 178 guns, 68 vehicles, Assault Value = 907

Defending force 152462 troops, 235 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3844

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
13th Tank Regiment
15th Division
63rd Division
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Army
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
4th Mortar Battalion
4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
91st Chinese Corps
3rd Construction Regiment
8th Construction Regiment
2nd Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Corps
7th Construction Regiment
23rd Chinese Corps
9th Separate Brigade
29th Chinese Corps
7th New Chinese Corps
62nd Chinese Corps
19th Chinese Corps
95th Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
303rd Brigade
71st Chinese Corps
58th Chinese Corps
10th Construction Regiment
5th New Chinese Corps
11th Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
56th Chinese Corps
60th Chinese Corps
100th Chinese Corps
12th Construction Regiment
10th Chinese Base Force
CAF HQ
19th Chinese Base Force
25th Group Army
1st Artillery Regiment
7th Artillery Regiment
13th Group Army
56th AT Gun Regiment
14th Group Army
7th Group Army
1st Chinese Base Force
22nd Artillery Regiment
4th Chinese Base Force
14th Chinese Base Force
Central Reserve
24th Chinese Corps
3rd Group Army
23rd Group Army
3rd Chinese Base Force
18th Artillery Regiment
Lusu War Area
37th Group Army
10th Group Army
38th Group Army
China Command
17th Group Army
15th Group Army
1st War Area
16th Construction Regiment
49th AA Regiment
36th Group Army
Red Chinese Army
21st Chinese Base Force


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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 124506 troops, 214 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3840

Defending force 33682 troops, 400 guns, 239 vehicles, Assault Value = 907

Allied adjusted assault: 3091

Japanese adjusted defense: 2285

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2349 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 108 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 75 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 98 (17 destroyed, 81 disabled)
Vehicles lost 152 (16 destroyed, 136 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
6574 casualties reported
Squads: 80 destroyed, 644 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 117 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 16 disabled
Guns lost 19 (14 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Assaulting units:
62nd Chinese Corps
11th Chinese Corps
95th Chinese Corps
8th Construction Regiment
91st Chinese Corps
23rd Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
10th Construction Regiment
56th Chinese Corps
303rd Brigade
7th New Chinese Corps
58th Chinese Corps
100th Chinese Corps
5th New Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
71st Chinese Corps
19th Chinese Corps
60th Chinese Corps
7th Construction Regiment
29th Chinese Corps
3rd Construction Regiment
8th Chinese Corps
9th Separate Brigade
12th Construction Regiment
10th Chinese Base Force
3rd Chinese Base Force
49th AA Regiment
10th Group Army
18th Artillery Regiment
7th Artillery Regiment
China Command
1st War Area
17th Group Army
Red Chinese Army
38th Group Army
22nd Artillery Regiment
4th Chinese Base Force
36th Group Army
24th Chinese Corps
16th Construction Regiment
7th Group Army
56th AT Gun Regiment
14th Chinese Base Force
1st Chinese Base Force
1st Artillery Regiment
CAF HQ
3rd Group Army
37th Group Army
Lusu War Area
25th Group Army
19th Chinese Base Force
Central Reserve
23rd Group Army
13th Group Army
14th Group Army
15th Group Army
21st Chinese Base Force

Defending units:
13th Tank Regiment
15th Division
63rd Division
4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Army
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
4th Mortar Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment


I'm bumping this up to a shock attack tomorrow. Fatigue and disruption looked like it didn't rise much.

CF got "good" odds on Wuchang a couple days back...

quote:

Ground combat at Wuchang (84,51)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 91007 troops, 740 guns, 125 vehicles, Assault Value = 2901

Defending force 125739 troops, 356 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2326

Japanese adjusted assault: 2222

Allied adjusted defense: 1053

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
9648 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 1106 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 58 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 53 disabled

Allied ground losses:
2312 casualties reported
Squads: 16 destroyed, 265 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 14 disabled

Assaulting units:
39th Division
25th Division
58th Division
2nd Ind.Mixed Regiment
20th Division
12th RGC Temp. Division
3rd Division
1st Ind.Mixed Brigade
22nd Division
18th RGC Temp. Division
13th Army

Defending units:
26th Chinese Corps
73rd Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
99th Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
37th Chinese Corps
87th Chinese Corps
74th Chinese Corps
20th Chinese Corps
10th Chinese Corps
44th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese Corps
66th Chinese Corps
72nd Chinese Corps
4th Heavy Mortar Regiment


My planes at Hyderabad aren't hitting Cocanada for some reason. They have escorts. Vengeances have moved in and will fly also, hopefully.


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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 1/9/2015 8:31:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		It seems that CF is going into pure siege mode for Chungking. I don't think he intends to take it. If he did, then he wouldn't be attacking Wuchang as those units will just respawn in Chungking in a month. So I'm guessing it won't be long until CF decides that conquest of China is complete and starts sending them off overseas. There is a very real possibility of a Japanese offensive in India in 1943 with those units I think.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 1/10/2015 12:03:19 AM   
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16 September 1942

Busy day.

Betties and Zekes from Ceylon hit Madras. He might be thinking I'm running my air from there.

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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 22,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 4 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 8 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 104 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 36 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
G4M1 Betty x 35

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Lysander II: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 10
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
26 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 15000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 21000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes


My fighter activity there had been light. I've flown in another 4 squadrons from up north. One of Martlets and 3 of Hurricanes. P-39s are hopscotching there via Bombay from Delhi.

Cocanada is also busy.

quote:

Morning Air attack on 1st Tank Division, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 42 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 19

Allied aircraft
P-38F Lightning x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38F Lightning: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x P-38F Lightning sweeping at 34000 feet

CAP engaged:
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(19 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 13 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes



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Morning Air attack on 1st Tank Division, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 4

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on 1st Tank Division, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6
B-26 Marauder x 4

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking Guards Tank Division ...


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Morning Air attack on 2nd Tank Division, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wirraway bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes



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Morning Air attack on 2nd Tank Division, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 6
P-38F Lightning x 10

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Raid is overhead


quote:

Morning Air attack on 2nd Tank Regiment, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 6
Wirraway x 3
B-17E Fortress x 4
B-25C Mitchell x 12
B-26 Marauder x 3
P-38F Lightning x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington Ic: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington Ic bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x Wirraway bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes

Also attacking 1st Tank Division ...
Also attacking 14th Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 1st Tank Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Tank Division ...
Also attacking Guards Tank Division ...


quote:

orning Air attack on Guards Tank Division, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 8

Allied aircraft
Vengeance I x 16
P-40E Warhawk x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Vengeance I: 2 damaged
Vengeance I: 1 destroyed by flak
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Vengeance I releasing from 4000'
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
6 x Vengeance I releasing from 3000'
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
4 x Vengeance I releasing from 2000'
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 50 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Guards Tank Division, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 6

Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington Ic: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington Ic bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 19000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 47 minutes


Here's what he has there:

quote:

Ground combat at Cocanada (41,37)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 558 troops, 52 guns, 47 vehicles, Assault Value = 1322

Defending force 35791 troops, 467 guns, 1450 vehicles, Assault Value = 1541

Japanese ground losses:
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
2nd British Division
20th Indian Division
18th British Division
75th IAC Regiment
26th Indian Brigade
308th Base Group
2nd NW Frontier Base Force
XV Indian Corps
2nd Hyderabad Base Force
2/9th Field Regiment
2/1st Med Regiment
12th Indian Engineer Battalion

Defending units:
1st Tank Division
2nd Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
2nd Tank Division
18th Division
Guards Tank Division


My shock attack at Chungking had good odds, but my losses went south. Time to back off. Two corps also show up this turn. to help make things up.

quote:

Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1943 troops, 176 guns, 66 vehicles, Assault Value = 728

Defending force 146871 troops, 222 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3239

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
13th Tank Regiment
15th Division
63rd Division
4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Army
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
4th Mortar Battalion
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
8th Construction Regiment
19th Chinese Corps
91st Chinese Corps
11th Chinese Corps
71st Chinese Corps
29th Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Corps
100th Chinese Corps
10th Construction Regiment
23rd Chinese Corps
60th Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
58th Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
3rd Construction Regiment
2nd Chinese Corps
5th New Chinese Corps
56th Chinese Corps
62nd Chinese Corps
7th Construction Regiment
303rd Brigade
7th New Chinese Corps
12th Construction Regiment
95th Chinese Corps
1st War Area
16th Construction Regiment
1st Chinese Base Force
Lusu War Area
37th Group Army
14th Chinese Base Force
36th Group Army
18th Artillery Regiment
9th Separate Brigade
38th Group Army
22nd Artillery Regiment
10th Group Army
4th Chinese Base Force
14th Group Army
CAF HQ
56th AT Gun Regiment
China Command
17th Group Army
25th Group Army
7th Artillery Regiment
10th Chinese Base Force
15th Group Army
Red Chinese Army
3rd Chinese Base Force
49th AA Regiment
13th Group Army
7th Group Army
24th Chinese Corps
19th Chinese Base Force
Central Reserve
3rd Group Army
23rd Group Army
1st Artillery Regiment
21st Chinese Base Force


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Ground combat at Chungking (76,45)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 118950 troops, 201 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3237

Defending force 31293 troops, 396 guns, 229 vehicles, Assault Value = 728

Allied adjusted assault: 2776

Japanese adjusted defense: 1899

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
2415 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 240 disabled
Non Combat: 27 destroyed, 43 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 68 (36 destroyed, 32 disabled)
Vehicles lost 63 (55 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
14664 casualties reported
Squads: 247 destroyed, 649 disabled
Non Combat: 112 destroyed, 137 disabled
Engineers: 31 destroyed, 35 disabled
Guns lost 13 (1 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Units destroyed 2

Assaulting units:
23rd Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
8th Construction Regiment
8th Chinese Corps
56th Chinese Corps
10th Construction Regiment
5th New Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
29th Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Corps
11th Chinese Corps
3rd Construction Regiment
58th Chinese Corps
60th Chinese Corps
100th Chinese Corps
62nd Chinese Corps
91st Chinese Corps
19th Chinese Corps
303rd Brigade
71st Chinese Corps
7th Construction Regiment
7th New Chinese Corps
12th Construction Regiment
1st Chinese Base Force
1st War Area
17th Group Army
7th Group Army
Lusu War Area
10th Group Army
37th Group Army
Red Chinese Army
49th AA Regiment
24th Chinese Corps
19th Chinese Base Force
3rd Chinese Base Force
15th Group Army
Central Reserve
CAF HQ
18th Artillery Regiment
13th Group Army
14th Chinese Base Force
22nd Artillery Regiment
16th Construction Regiment
1st Artillery Regiment
14th Group Army
10th Chinese Base Force
23rd Group Army
95th Chinese Corps
3rd Group Army
56th AT Gun Regiment
9th Separate Brigade
36th Group Army
7th Artillery Regiment
China Command
4th Chinese Base Force
38th Group Army
25th Group Army
21st Chinese Base Force

Defending units:
13th Tank Regiment
15th Division
63rd Division
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Army
51st Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
4th Mortar Battalion
4th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
14th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
2nd Hvy.Artillery Regiment


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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 1/10/2015 3:11:44 PM   
Mundy


Posts: 2869
Joined: 6/26/2002
From: Neenah
Status: offline 		17 September 1942

The air war in India is swinging my way, for today, at least.

quote:

Morning Air attack on 18th Division, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 13

Allied aircraft
Vengeance I x 13
Wellington Ic x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Vengeance I: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged
Vengeance I: 1 destroyed by flak
Wellington Ic: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Vengeance I releasing from 4000'
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
3 x Wellington Ic bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x Vengeance I releasing from 2000'
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb
4 x Vengeance I releasing from 3000'
Ground Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead

Also attacking Guards Tank Division ...
Also attacking 18th Division ...


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Morning Air attack on 18th Division, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 13
B-26 Marauder x 4
P-38F Lightning x 10

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes

Also attacking 2nd Tank Regiment ...
Also attacking 14th Tank Regiment ...


quote:

Morning Air attack on Guards Tank Division, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 10

Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 6
Wirraway x 3
B-17E Fortress x 4
B-25C Mitchell x 12
B-26 Marauder x 3
P-38F Lightning x 30
P-40E Warhawk x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington Ic: 1 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington Ic bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x Wirraway bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 139 minutes

Also attacking 2nd Tank Division ...
Also attacking 1st Tank Division ...
Also attacking 18th Division ...
Also attacking 2nd Tank Division ...


The night raids on Calcutta haven't been going anywhere. Only 3 bombers flying per mission. CF has nicks up at night now. I'll back off for now and add these Fortresses to the day attacks on Cocanada.

I also fended off his Madras raid with the extra fighters.

quote:

Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 11 NM, estimated altitude 23,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29

Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 15
Hurricane IIb Trop x 15
Hurricane IIc Trop x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x A6M2 Zero sweeping at 20000 feet

CAP engaged:
No.30 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 6 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 19000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 27000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
No.258 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 6 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
No.607 Sqn RAF with Martlet II (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 6 scrambling)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Madras , at 35,40

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 126 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 44 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
G4M1 Betty x 35

Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 10
Hurricane IIb Trop x 7
Hurricane IIc Trop x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 5 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb Trop: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 2 destroyed

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.30 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 8 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 17000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 23000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
No.258 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIb Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 18000 and 22000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
No.607 Sqn RAF with Martlet II (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers


That point I made about Babes and dive bombers: It works both ways. I'm getting a few shot down each turn, so I'm sending them back to Bombay to replenish.

I noticed two more base forces in Karachi, which must have shipped over, so they're off to Hyderabad. A smaller supply convoy to Karachi is inbound with a bigger one a few days out. Hopefully, that will help with the supply situation.

Some base forces and USMC aircraft have left San Fran for Canton Is. I also have a spare PBY squadron at Pago Pago, which can move there when the support arrives.

My recon Lightnings at Suva relocated to Cairns, to help size up Port Moresby.

I can probably stop sending bombers to India at this point. I have more stacked up at Cape Town. I'll have to back down my raids soon, and refit one of my P-38 squadrons. A squadron of P-39s are now in Madras to help out there. Lots of damaged planes there right now.







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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 1/11/2015 3:37:44 PM   
Mundy


Posts: 2869
Joined: 6/26/2002
From: Neenah
Status: offline 		19 September 1942

Welcome to Vizagapatnam.

quote:

Morning Air attack on Vizagapatnam , at 42,37

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 26
B-17F Fortress x 3
B-24D Liberator x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Vizagapatnam , at 42,37

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Airbase supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Vizagapatnam , at 42,37

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Vizagapatnam , at 42,37

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

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Afternoon Air attack on Guards Tank Division, at 42,37 (Vizagapatnam)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6
B-25C Mitchell x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 3 (2 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb


More runs on the troops. I'm having trouble getting through the jungle.

quote:

Afternoon Air attack on 25th Army, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 5
P-38F Lightning x 9
P-40E Warhawk x 12

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 11000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb


quote:

Afternoon Air attack on 1st Tank Division, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Wellington Ic x 4
Wirraway x 3
P-38F Lightning x 9

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington Ic: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington Ic bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x Wirraway bombing from 5000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 100 lb GP Bomb


quote:

Afternoon Air attack on 18th Division, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 6
P-38F Lightning x 9
P-40E Warhawk x 12

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Blenheim IV bombing from 8000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 lb GP Bomb


quote:

Afternoon Air attack on 14th Tank Regiment, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 6
P-38F Lightning x 18

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on 14th Tank Regiment, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-26 Marauder x 6
P-38F Lightning x 9

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-26 Marauder bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb


Marines will be landing at Karachi in the next four days or so.

I'm shipping planes from Pearl to Suva and New Zealand. I'll be dealing with withdrawals in the next few weeks or so.


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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 1/12/2015 7:35:33 PM   
Mundy


Posts: 2869
Joined: 6/26/2002
From: Neenah
Status: offline 		21 September 1942

My bombing campaign continues. I have about 25 bomber squadrons participating now. At Hyderabad, I can now support over 300 planes, and it's at level 8. Most of these bomber squadrons are at about 3/4 capacity, but it's enough.

quote:

Morning Air attack on Vizagapatnam , at 42,37

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 21
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 8

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 24
B-17F Fortress x 3
B-24D Liberator x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 7 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 8 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
B-17F Fortress: 3 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
7 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (3 airborne, 10 on standby, 8 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 2 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Vizagapatnam , at 42,37

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 7
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 8
P-38F Lightning x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 4 damaged
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged
P-38F Lightning: 1 destroyed

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
11th Sentai with Ki-43-IIa Oscar (2 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 18000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
64th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (1 airborne, 3 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers


Honestly, I don't think Cannonfodder's forward deployment of fighters at Vizagapatnam was a good idea. I can hold local air superiority this far west. He can't stop the heavies, and this turn I smacked quite a few on the ground.

I'm still not getting good results at Cocanada.

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Morning Air attack on 18th Division, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-18A Bolo x 17

Allied aircraft losses
B-18A Bolo: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 1st Tank Division ...
Also attacking 18th Division ...

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Afternoon Air attack on 2nd Tank Division, at 43,36 , near Vizagapatnam

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb


I've added another two medium squadrons to the ground attack effort.

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Ground combat at Cocanada (41,37)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 564 troops, 52 guns, 47 vehicles, Assault Value = 1718

Defending force 24251 troops, 240 guns, 665 vehicles, Assault Value = 866

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
18th British Division
75th IAC Regiment
255th Armoured Brigade
20th Indian Division
2nd British Division
27th Infantry Division
26th Indian Brigade
2/9th Field Regiment
2/1st Med Regiment
XV Indian Corps
2nd Hyderabad Base Force
2nd NW Frontier Base Force
12th Indian Engineer Battalion

Defending units:
18th Division
1st Tank Division
2nd Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
25th Army


I have plenty of fighters up at Madras, in case he goes there again. I have lots of unused fighters at Bhopal and Nagpur, if I need to rest and refit. I'm not afraid of his fighters in India anymore.

From Pearl, I'm sending the 5th USMC Defense Battalion and two flak units to Canton. They're in an amphib TF, so they'll be ready to go off the boat. They're on nice fast militarized transports, so it shouldn't take long. The 1st was also at Pearl, but it was weaker than the 5th.




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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 1/13/2015 5:34:02 PM   
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Welcome to Vizagapatnam.


Mundy, I admire your fighting spirit even in the face of some serious setbacks. If you will pardon me, I as a rookie player have a naive strategic question about your game. As I understand it, you are planning an op to take some or all of the Marshalls even though the KB just zorched 3 of your carriers recently so the Japanese can have pretty much unmatched airpower wherever they put the KB, for the time being. OK, let's suppose your op in the Marshalls goes exactly as you hope. How would your new foothold there be sustainable? Couldn't Cannonfodder park the KB nearby and flatten any of your air while starving and bombing your marines, for ... one month? Maybe two months? And all the while he could prep a counter invasion force of his own which would be able to recapture each island, wiping out your precious marines in the process? Please correct me where I'm wrong, but how could you prevent such an awful fate for your landing troops?

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I have backed off on the Marshalls plan, having lately favored a run though the Gilberts. The main problem with the Marshalls is the fact that none of the islands there will support a large amount of troops, from which I could base further invasions. There's just more room in the Gilberts.

If KB were to do an extended starvation campaign, the upside of that is that I would know where they are and could then run a campaign elsewhere without fear of interference. There's also the chance of ambushing them when they're done, after their sortie count has been depleted. I haven't really looked at what they are for KB, so it would take some calculation to determine what point that is.

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Mundy

Morning Air attack on 18th Division, at 41,37 (Cocanada)

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-18A Bolo x 17

Allied aircraft losses
B-18A Bolo: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
5 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 9000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

Also attacking 1st Tank Division ...
Also attacking 18th Division ...

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Afternoon Air attack on 2nd Tank Division, at 43,36 , near Vizagapatnam

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 49 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb


Tanks are very hard to kill with high level bombing - a direct hit is required to get any kind of result. The only way I have seen good air->ground results is low level bombing and strafing. Fighter bombers and attack bombers are ideal for this, but bomb carrying fighters with at least 50 calibre machine guns get results too. I like using the Airacobras for their big cannon.


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Time to back off the bombing campaign for a day or two.

It looks like the Oscars and Tojos have abandoned Vizagapatnam. In their place are 24-30 Nicks, which have been trying to stop the airfield raids. I haven't looked at the intel screen, but my losses appear minimal, but plenty damaged.

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Morning Air attack on Vizagapatnam , at 42,37

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 44

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 10 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
6th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (5 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (6 airborne, 18 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Vizagapatnam , at 42,37

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 22 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 28

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
6th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (3 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 54 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Vizagapatnam , at 42,37

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 22

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 14
B-24D Liberator x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 8 damaged
Ki-45 KAIa Nick: 3 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 2 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
2 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-24D Liberator bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 10 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
6th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (3 airborne, 10 on standby, 1 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (2 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on Vizagapatnam , at 42,37

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 39 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 10

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing from 15000 feet
Airfield Attack: 8 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
6th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
66th Sentai with Ki-45 KAIa Nick (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes


I've been chipping away at the forces at Cocanada.

The 3rd USMC Division is two days out from Karachi.

I've flipped a P-40 squadron at Brisbane for P-38Fs. By the end of the month, there will probably be just enough to top off the two squadrons in India, before the line switches over to Gs. When that happens, I'll flip one squadron over to the G, while the other can live off the Fs living in the pool.

P-40Ks are building up nicely.

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Status: offline 		I've got another "poke in the eye" mission out.  A bombardment TF of destroyers is on the way to Port Moresby.

They got jumped on by about two dozen Betties, with escorts, 3 hexes SW of Milne Bay.  None hit.  They should strike next turn.

This is what's making me leery of a Port Moresby invasion right now.  I'm half tempted to create a huge transport TF (empty) and wave it around to the south of PM to see what happens. 

Recon of PM itself is showing a little over 40,000 troops there right now.  In what proportions, I don't know, but I'm assuming mainly combat troops.  There doesn't seem to be a lot of air activity out of there.

My new P-38 squadron plus the two Beaufighters may be enough to LRCAP an invasion. but it will still probably be ugly.

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I've got another "poke in the eye" mission out.  A bombardment TF of destroyers is on the way to Port Moresby.

They got jumped on by about two dozen Betties, with escorts, 3 hexes SW of Milne Bay.  None hit.  They should strike next turn.

This is what's making me leery of a Port Moresby invasion right now.  I'm half tempted to create a huge transport TF (empty) and wave it around to the south of PM to see what happens. 

Recon of PM itself is showing a little over 40,000 troops there right now.  In what proportions, I don't know, but I'm assuming mainly combat troops.  There doesn't seem to be a lot of air activity out of there.

My new P-38 squadron plus the two Beaufighters may be enough to LRCAP an invasion. but it will still probably be ugly.

Ya, it doesn't really sound like you can take Port Moresby any time soon. To take a base in 3x terrain with 40k troops requires continuous heavy bombardment which is out of the question until you have given the IJN a black eye or two.
There is no rush to force that sort of invasion; this is a long war and you are slowly accumulating weapons which will give you a decisive advantage in future operations.

Honestly I don't think there is anything offensive you can or should be doing in the SW Pac right now. You need your best pilots and aircraft in India which means the SW Pac can't have the resources needed to launch an offensive across the Coral Sea which is a big jump. There is no shame in concentrating on building up front line bases in the Pacific while you work towards a counter blow in India. Eventually there will be a time when you can sustain offensive operations in multiple theaters but that's a ways away.

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Status: offline 		I pretty much agree.  I don't want to commit my carriers to anything serious until they get their next armament upgrade (about two weeks from now).  The Lexes get their 40mm upgrade, which is a big deal.

I can probably tip things in India over the 1.5 to 2 months, with about 4 or so more divisions waiting to get there.  I'm waiting for transports to return right now.

The fact CF's backed out his fighters from Vizagapatnam is a bit of a confidence booster.  I'm going to set loose a big raid on the industry at Calcutta pretty soon.  I'm not sure if hitting the HI or LI is the better move right now.  I'd like to create a supply crisis for him to worry about.  A good 50 plane raid might do wonders.   Some of his other bases in the area are producing, but Calcutta's the big supplier, I'm assuming.

I'll also move the P-39s at Madras closer for antitank work. 

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The worm turns.

Things started off with this:

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Night Naval bombardment of Cocanada at 41,37

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga
BB Ise
BB Yamashiro
BB Fuso
CA Myoko
CA Takao
DD Asagumo
DD Arashio
DD Oshio
DD Hagikaze
DD Maikaze
DD Yugumo

Allied ground losses:
220 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

E8N2 Dave acting as spotter for BB Hyuga
BB Hyuga firing at 27th Infantry Division
E8N2 Dave acting as spotter for BB Ise
BB Ise firing at 18th British Division
E8N2 Dave acting as spotter for BB Yamashiro
BB Yamashiro firing at 2nd British Division
BB Fuso firing at 2nd British Division
CA Myoko firing at 2nd British Division
E13A1 Jake acting as spotter for CA Takao
CA Takao firing at 23rd Indian Division
DD Asagumo firing at 2nd British Division
DD Arashio firing at 2nd British Division
DD Oshio firing at 18th British Division
DD Hagikaze firing at 2nd British Division
DD Maikaze firing at 18th British Division
DD Yugumo firing at 2nd British Division


It's the second time I've had to deal with this. They're currently about 7 hexes SE of Cocanada, allegedly heading SE.

Next up, in the daytime...

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Canton Island at 152,142

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 75
B5N2 Kate x 35
D3A1 Val x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak
D3A1 Val: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AKV Hammondsport, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
AKV Kittyhawk, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD McCalla, Bomb hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Lardner, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
12 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
13 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
9 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
2 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
3 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
11 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000' *
Naval Attack: 2 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Massive explosion on AKV Kittyhawk
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring AKV Kittyhawk
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD McCalla


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Canton Island at 152,142

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 32
B5N2 Kate x 25

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 15 destroyed

Allied Ships
DD Lardner
AKV Hammondsport, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

Massive explosion on AKV Hammondsport


Two squadrons of Airacobras go down here. They were destined for Suva, I think. KB was parked 7 hexes due East of them when they struck. So much for the VPs doing their job. The guys at Christmas Island should have seen them. They're also about 3-4 hexes just out of range of the VPs at Pago Pago.

Another two transport TFs about a dozen or so hexes to the NE of this, so they're heading back to Pearl. One was more planes for Suva and the other was troops/Defense btn for Canton.

I have by three fleet CVs plus two CVEs suiting up at Pearl to head south a bit. With them are both remaining CLAAs, plus Washington and South Dakota. I'm guessing his TF is probably 5 carriers at this point.

I'm starting a deliberate attack at Cocanada to gauge his strength. Marines are headed to the Nagpur area to think about a run towards Raipur.




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Status: offline 		Difficult to hear a question like this at a time like this: If the enemy owns Baker Island, then why are vulnerable convoys passing so close by?

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He's had nothing running from there or the Gilberts.

I've probably been a bit "carefree", but it has been seriously quiet in the area.



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ORIGINAL: witpqs

Difficult to hear a question like this at a time like this: If the enemy owns Baker Island, then why are vulnerable convoys passing so close by?

Sorry!



+1

Even against the AI, which routinely takes Baker, I add a waypoint for SoPac bound convoys from Pearl one hex east of Christmas Island to ensure they are diverting around any monkey business near Baker/Canton.

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KB was parked 7 hexes due East of them when they struck. So much for the VPs doing their job. The guys at Christmas Island should have seen them. They're also about 3-4 hexes just out of range of the VPs at Pago Pago.

You are expecting too much of your patrol planes. Firstly, they don't reliably detect ships at the edge of their range. Secondly even if they had detected the KB it would have been too late for those convoys anyway.. You need them to spot the KB before they get in range. Really that means you need a VP squadron in Canton Island. Frankly I'm surprised to see the base unoccupied...lets hope the Japanese don't notice and drop in a unit before you can. Canton Island is really a key support base for operations in the CentPac for the Allies. Though until Baker is retaken Canton is probably too exposed to base support ships and the like; Palmyra is probably the better option for now.

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ORIGINAL: Mundy
I have by three fleet CVs plus two CVEs suiting up at Pearl to head south a bit. With them are both remaining CLAAs, plus Washington and South Dakota. I'm guessing his TF is probably 5 carriers at this point.


Why do you think its only 5 CVs? Even if it is only 5 Japanese CVs it would crush a 3 CV + 2 CVE USN force easily at this point.

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Even against the AI, which routinely takes Baker, I add a waypoint for SoPac bound convoys from Pearl one hex east of Christmas Island to ensure they are diverting around any monkey business near Baker/Canton.

I do the same as well. Xmas Island is a pretty good vantage point. And if for some reason things really go wrong I can disband and hide in the base with some fighters on CAP.

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He's had nothing running from there or the Gilberts.

I've probably been a bit "carefree", but it has been seriously quiet in the area.



Wike most wabbit huntews, the KB is vewy, vewy, quiet!

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From: Neenah
Status: offline 		Usually, I take mine past Christmas Is, and make the turn down at Penrhyn Is.  I've only been cutting the corner the last 2-3 weeks, but I'll have to enforce trip discipline again.

Lost sight of KB.  Most likely they went west.  East would put them closer to searches from Christmas Is.  The VPs at Johnston are re-aligned to cover the south more, so going north would run into them.  SW would put them in range of Samoa.  Assuming, of course that all the pilots are perfect.

I think it's safe to say the IJAAF has pulled out of Vizagapatnam.  No air cover there or at Cocanada anymore.  Damage level is > 75% now.  Heavies plastered it good last turn.  My guys at Cocanada launched an attack last turn.  I only got 1-4 odds.  He lost 1,000 troops to my 1,300.  B-18s out of Madras have been busy, though to little effect at Cocanada.  They'll work with B-26s and B-25s for front line duty.  The heavies at Hyderabad are going to hit the HI at Calcutta next turn.  I'll stand them down after that.  I have probably another 10 or so heavy squadrons at Bombay trying to get repaired up -- 17s and 24s.  My A-20 squadron is also there, upgrading to A-20As

I have fighters aplenty.  the 38s are resting, and I may rotate them to Bombay for replenishing.  The single-engine stuff can CAP and escort to the front lines.  A P-40K squadron at Bombay is now deploying up front.

I have an Indian division at the Waranga-whatever base two hexes SE of Hyderabad.  The Marines are railing there to assist.  Japanese troops are located in the hex SE of there on the dirt road.  I don't think there are many.  If I can clear them out, I'll have another axis to approach Vizagapatnam.

When all my other USA division arrive in-country, I'll probably set them up to work south from Delhi.  I'm hoping he's stripping other areas to concentrate on the coast route.  I'm still looking at at least a month before they arrive.  I've got lots at Cape Town waiting.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 1/16/2015 5:14:24 PM   
Sangeli


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From: San Francisco
Status: offline 		Do you have a map of the Indian campaign? When and where are you planning your counterttack? I think by the end of 42 that the Allies have the ability for some major counterattacks in India to push the Japanese back. But if the Greyjoy/Obvert game is any indication you'll be fighting heavily in India through mid 43. Luckily India is the perfect place for your air force to get some combat experience and give some bloody noses to the Japanese.

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