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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/11/2015 4:46:25 AM   
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Allied ground losses:
154660 casualties reported
Squads: 7748 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 11505 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 54 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 115 (115 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 75


Wow! Good thing you never run out of troops in China.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/11/2015 11:22:34 AM   
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Wow! Good thing you never run out of troops in China.


I don't know... with Chungking gone, maybe I have.

Do they respawn elsewhere?

I'll post the VP screen when I get home. Cannonfodder's made the auto-victory threshold long ago.

I don't really fret the VPs. Japan will still get theirs in the end.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/11/2015 3:46:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock
Wow! Good thing you never run out of troops in China.


I don't know... with Chungking gone, maybe I have.

Do they respawn elsewhere?

I'll post the VP screen when I get home. Cannonfodder's made the auto-victory threshold long ago.

I don't really fret the VPs. Japan will still get theirs in the end.

No, you are correct they will not respawn elsewhere. Which means that once Wenchow and some other bases fall, China truly will run out of troops.


I admire your tenacity and drive to play on; I think others (including myself) would be too disheartened to continue at this point. That being said, the road to victory is a long one and it's going to require very disciplined but decisive approach. For one, I think you need to rethink your attritional approach in India and focus on maneuver more. Indian and British squad production is too limited; if you take heavy losses you won't be able to replace them.

I think the focus for you in 1943 is building up some tempo and feel for offensive campaigns in the Pacific. You have a long ways to win the war and a land heavy approach is probably out of the question at this point. It doesn't really matter where you attack as long as you can do it effectively; go for the weakest points in the Empire. Once you can start getting some momentum it will allow you think more about how to bring about the collapse of the Empire.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/11/2015 4:50:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Regardless, his navy will most likely be going extinct within two years. Long before that, subs will start tearing his merchant fleet a new one. Asia proper will probably just become a sideshow to the move across the Pacific. If/when the Royal Navy gets build up at India, I can think about Ceylon. Amazing how that spot of land can dictate everything naval in the area.

I don't think I'll be hitting the Gilberts until I have at least an Essex and a few CVLs added. I'll have an armada of CVEs by then. I think I'm up to 7 or 8 now.

I'm still going to take Adak once the troops are ready, and play it by ear after that. I'll probably start moving from Suva to Noumea and Luganville also.

I would have love to have known how badly I hit Akagi. For all I know, she's just scratched.

Even in real life if China fell and India was getting overrun, I doubt the US would have come to terms. I'm content to see this to the end, as I'll only get stronger.

This is probably my last game against a "boosted" Japanese setup. I'm starting second game as the Japanese, and want to have what they really had.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/11/2015 7:25:04 PM   
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No, you are correct they will not respawn elsewhere. Which means that once Wenchow and some other bases fall, China truly will run out of troops.


My apologies; I stand corrected. I had forgotten that troops must have a place to appear.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/11/2015 7:52:54 PM   
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No, you are correct they will not respawn elsewhere. Which means that once Wenchow and some other bases fall, China truly will run out of troops.


My apologies; I stand corrected. I had forgotten that troops must have a place to appear.

Someone recently posted that Chinese troops began appearing in one of the off-map Russian bases, the one closest to N. China. But in that AAR, Russia was activated and that may make a difference.


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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/12/2015 12:50:42 AM   
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I seem to have run into some hard range limit for LRCAP. Betties have been hitting my troops one hex SE of Katherine. I moved some 38Gs go Alice Springs, well within drop tank range, and the message is that they're too far to LRCAP. Sucks...

CF took a shot at Hankow, without much luck. I don't know how long it'll last.

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Ground combat at Hankow (85,50)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 49754 troops, 410 guns, 128 vehicles, Assault Value = 1459

Defending force 56481 troops, 163 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1304

Japanese adjusted assault: 775

Allied adjusted defense: 981

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1754 casualties reported
Squads: 49 destroyed, 332 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 51 disabled
Engineers: 16 destroyed, 23 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1085 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 140 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
2nd Ind Engineer Regiment
11th RGC Temp. Division
22nd Division
17th Division
25th Division
13th RGC Temp. Division
Hankow Special Base Force
13th Army
51st Field Const Co
54th JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
68th Chinese Corps
59th Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
32nd Chinese Corps
94th Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps
5th Chinese Cavalry Corps
26th Group Army


A British infantry brigade departed Cape Town yesterday, bound for India. Their armored brigade reached Raipur. I'm getting the fatigue down a bit before I take a shot. If it starts to look not good, I'm going to pull everyone back.

One of the 38F squadrons in India is converting to 39Ds. My pool is too far down to replenish them, and I don't have enough Gs yet. I think another squadron converted without my say so, which I've been trying to tighten down. I'm going to need more CAS planes anyway. They're experienced enough where they can probably protect themselves okay.

My 8th CVE departed Panama yesterday with an AK.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/12/2015 1:03:50 AM   
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...and the message is that they're too far to LRCAP.

How many hexes away was that?

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/12/2015 11:34:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		14. I can sweep there but not LRCAP.

I've been tracking the views on this thread lately. Almost 500 hits since yesterday. I'm glad I'm not talking to myself.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/12/2015 1:06:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mundy


I've been tracking the views on this thread lately. Almost 500 hits since yesterday. I'm glad I'm not talking to myself.


You'll be on the NYT bestseller list before long.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/12/2015 5:19:33 PM   
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I seem to have run into some hard range limit for LRCAP. Betties have been hitting my troops one hex SE of Katherine. I moved some 38Gs go Alice Springs, well within drop tank range, and the message is that they're too far to LRCAP. Sucks...

Yes, certainly range 14 is too far for LRCAP. Didn't know there was a hard limit though. I think it may be that you can't use LRCAP outside of normal range. Now that I think about it I noticed something similar in my game when trying to use Hurricanes at LRCAP at range 7. As I mentioned earlier, you need fighters at Daly Waters (or Katherine if you can take it) if you want a chance of taking Darwin by land. And even then it's a stretch; Japanese may be inclined to send reinforcements if they see you at Katherine but not advancing by sea as well. Even if you do take Katherine and manage to get some fighters there I still think Japan will be able to probably push you back; you're just too far from decent supply to make the final push.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/12/2015 8:32:00 PM   
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The battle of Kat has begun. Things opened up in the air.

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Morning Air attack on 3rd Australian Division, at 76,128 (Katherine)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 46 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 23
G4M1 Betty x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
181 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
29 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb
3 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 3rd Motor Brigade ...
Also attacking 754th Tank Battalion ...
Also attacking 3rd Australian Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Motor Brigade ...
Also attacking 3rd Australian Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Motor Brigade ...
Also attacking 3rd Australian Division ...


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Morning Air attack on 3rd Australian Division, at 76,128 (Katherine)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 38 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 23
G4M1 Betty x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
172 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 19 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x G4M1 Betty bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb, 4 x 60 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking Americal Infantry Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Australian Division ...
Also attacking Americal Infantry Division ...
Also attacking 3rd Australian Division ...


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Morning Air attack on 1st/A Division, at 76,128 (Katherine)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 13

Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 15
P-38G Lightning x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb
3 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
201 Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (13 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
13 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on 1st/A Division, at 76,128 (Katherine)

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 10

Allied aircraft
B-17F Fortress x 8

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-17F Fortress bombing from 10000 feet *
Ground Attack: 4 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
201 Ku S-1 with A6M3a Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 254 minutes


Next turn the 38Gs at Alice Springs will sweep, while the others at Normanton continue to escort.

The battle itself:

quote:

Ground combat at Katherine (76,128)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 288 troops, 29 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 194

Defending force 25517 troops, 414 guns, 492 vehicles, Assault Value = 859

Allied ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
8th Tank Regiment
1st/A Division
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
3rd Australian Division
Americal Infantry Division
2/7th Armoured Regiment
754th Tank Battalion
3rd Motor Brigade
1st Medium Regiment
21/22 Field Regiment


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Ground combat at Katherine (76,128)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 25466 troops, 414 guns, 492 vehicles, Assault Value = 851

Defending force 5828 troops, 74 guns, 111 vehicles, Assault Value = 194

Allied adjusted assault: 372

Japanese adjusted defense: 139

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
293 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Vehicles lost 60 (11 destroyed, 49 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
83 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Vehicles lost 39 (2 destroyed, 37 disabled)

Assaulting units:
2/7th Armoured Regiment
754th Tank Battalion
Americal Infantry Division
3rd Australian Division
3rd Motor Brigade
1st Medium Regiment
21/22 Field Regiment

Defending units:
8th Tank Regiment
1st/A Division
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment


It looks like I can roll him out of there without too much hassle. Depending on supplies, this may just turn out to be a big, long high maintenance raid. I have no clue what's at Darwin. Come to think of it, I'll move my recon Lightnings to check for awhile.

Raipur isn't going well.

quote:

Ground combat at Raipur (45,31)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 97130 troops, 1775 guns, 1927 vehicles, Assault Value = 2463

Defending force 83295 troops, 865 guns, 790 vehicles, Assault Value = 2307

Allied adjusted assault: 616

Japanese adjusted defense: 3114

Allied assault odds: 1 to 5 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2960 casualties reported
Squads: 19 destroyed, 187 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 25 disabled
Guns lost 117 (8 destroyed, 109 disabled)
Vehicles lost 23 (2 destroyed, 21 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
8192 casualties reported
Squads: 181 destroyed, 570 disabled
Non Combat: 71 destroyed, 205 disabled
Engineers: 23 destroyed, 88 disabled
Guns lost 146 (9 destroyed, 137 disabled)
Vehicles lost 286 (65 destroyed, 221 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
267th Armoured Brigade
41st Infantry Division
2nd British Division
3rd Marine Division
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
268th Motorised Brigade
73rd Motorised Brigade
7th Indian Division
111th LRP Brigade
18th British Division
27th Infantry Division
22nd Marine Regiment
3rd USMC Tank Battalion
129th Infantry Regiment
40th Infantry Division
77th LRP Brigade
2/11th Field Regiment
IV Indian Corps
204th Coast AA Regiment
13th Indian Light AA Regiment
2/9th Field Regiment
14th Indian Light AA Regiment

Defending units:
5th Division
Guards Tank Division
4th Guards Division
38th/B Division
38th/A Division
53rd/A Division
55th Division
53rd/B Division
53rd/C Division
38th/C Division
45th Field AA Battalion
15th Army
84th JAAF AF Bn
30th Fld AA Gun Co
1st RF Gun Battalion
41st Air Defense AA Regiment
35th JAAF AF Bn
53rd JAAF AF Bn
50th Field AA Battalion
7th JAAF Base Force
53rd Field AA Battalion
76th JAAF AF Bn
9th RF Gun Battalion
14th JAAF AF Coy


I've decided to pull out of this one. I'll relocate everyone to a well supplied base to rebuild before spreading them around the country, probably with a bunch in reserve, to move in an emergency. India will probably turn into a standoff for the time being.

Pretty much why I like the island route. They tend to be sharp and quick -- not this massive slow drain of supply and stamina.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/12/2015 8:54:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Getting bogged down in a battle of attrition favours the Allies. Japan must make its conquests quickly and build defences. The Allies can last better in the long grind because of better logistics and more reinforcements.
The caveat is that the British and Commonwealth pools are not deep so they should be more defensive when they contest a hex - let the enemy fight against forts and terrain.
The US can afford to be aggressive because of good pools and replacement rates.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/12/2015 10:12:38 PM   
Mundy


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Status: offline 		Normally, I would feel that way, but away from the main bases, supply is extremely tight. Lots of my forward airfields are just about starvation level. Fixing all my broken units is probably just making it harder.

I'm not sure how much he's pulling out of Calcutta.

31 December 1942 -- good bye '42...

2nd Day at Kat didn't go as well. Disruption is very high, so I need to rest.

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Ground combat at Katherine (76,128)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 276 troops, 29 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 132

Defending force 24896 troops, 414 guns, 489 vehicles, Assault Value = 791

Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (4 destroyed, 4 disabled)

Assaulting units:
1st/A Division
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
2/7th Armoured Regiment
Americal Infantry Division
3rd Australian Division
754th Tank Battalion
3rd Motor Brigade
1st Medium Regiment
21/22 Field Regiment

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Ground combat at Katherine (76,128)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 24845 troops, 413 guns, 485 vehicles, Assault Value = 779

Defending force 5147 troops, 74 guns, 40 vehicles, Assault Value = 132

Allied adjusted assault: 31

Japanese adjusted defense: 50

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: disruption(-), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
441 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 42 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 22 (4 destroyed, 18 disabled)
Vehicles lost 9 (1 destroyed, 8 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
91 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
754th Tank Battalion
2/7th Armoured Regiment
Americal Infantry Division
3rd Australian Division
3rd Motor Brigade
1st Medium Regiment
21/22 Field Regiment

Defending units:
1st/A Division
17th Medium Field Artillery Regiment


I've gotten two reports of a CVE camped at Noumea -- probably Hosho.




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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/12/2015 10:13:06 PM   
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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/12/2015 10:25:41 PM   
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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/12/2015 11:21:36 PM   
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I guess I misinterpreted what "An exclamation point to the last post... " meant. I thought you mean it was going to be the last post..not adding an exclamation point to the previous post. Looking forward to seeing this game continue.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/12/2015 11:38:56 PM   
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Definitely not stopping.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/12/2015 11:46:34 PM   
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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/13/2015 11:55:31 AM   
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Despite my drubbing, I am seriously enjoying the game.  Cannonfodder's very good, and he's opened my eyes to things I've never thought to watch out for.  He plans things very carefully, although and occasional blind spot will creep in.  All my previous aborted games have had relatively conservative IJN players who never did much beyond taking northern Australia.  One of them never bothered taking Lae, which I was eventually able to grow.  I did want a game taking the Japanese beyond what they did historically.  Doing the Iron Babes scenario probably gave him a good leg up at the start, too.  Come 1/10/43, it'll be the furthest I've gotten in this game. 

I'm still not sure how I'd defend China with the forces there scattered hither and yon.  I'd definitely quit attacking, barring 10-1 AV odds.  Canton was a nasty meat grinder, too.  I'm also still not sure how he's getting fuel to Japan.  My hunch is that his tankers are hugging the coasts (China?), 'cause they're not taking the regular routes. 

Starting over, I can see a few points where I could give the Japanese a poke in the eye.

As it is, I have 4 VMFs at Bombay ready to flip to Corsairs when the pools fill up.  I'm getting 30 a month, so that'll take care of an 18 squadron and the odd 12 squadron I have there.

I left work early yesterday. We managed to crank through 4 turns, which was nice.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/14/2015 3:19:27 PM   
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Re-Evaluations

At this point, I've called a halt to both my ground offensives.

Raipur, since with his heavy fighter presence, I can't get much in the way of air support there. I'll take time to heal what I have and grow more land units. I could try and overload Cocanada at some point, though I'm reluctant to do an offensive along the coast since he's dedicated his four oldest battleships to harassment there. I've flipped one F4F squadron at Bombay to F4U-1 (2 planes...yay), but I figure the pool will go there first. A couple-three squadrons, and I can start dealing with the Tojos at Raipur. I'll build up supply in the meantime. An Indian para unit showed up at Madras, depleted, of course. They could turn out to be useful. I have more than enough transport in-country to move them quickly. Four heavy-ish flak units arrived at Karachi. (3 inch plus smaller stuff). Two are off to Nagpur, two to Delhi and one to Cocanada.

Once I get my guys out, I'll park them around to recover. I'll most likely scatter them around to obvious landing areas in case he starts something with China winding down. Make lots of port bases strong. I was toying with the idea of grabbing islands like Diego Garcia, but a recent intel indicates a 1/3 division fragment there.

I've also called off the attack at Katherine. I know you guys have said that an overland offensive was tough, but unless I see it myself... Air was the issue here too. If I could have kept a LRCAP there, it probably would have went well. Betties from Timor and Helens at Darwin (his IJAAF bomber of choice, it seems) have been pounding my guys badly -- 300+ casualties a day. My Fortresses are only doing half that to him. His Zekes there are irrelevant, with one P-38 squadron sweeping and the other escorting. I've been bagging A6Ms there with little to no cost to myself. Being unable to stop 80-ish bombers a day is the real problem. Without the air issue, I would have taken Kat and most likely Darwin too, based on the numbers there. My disruption was constantly high.

I'm moving some base forces and Seabees to Cairns for eventual deployment to Cooktown. I want to set up another base closer to Port Moresby. I'm reconning there again, to see if a landing there my be feasible. At San Francisco, I've flipped the USA 43rd division to SOPAC. Noumea's my planned future target, and I'd like about three divisions plus extras to do it. I'll pull forces I have in NZ for this.

I'm also on with my Adak landing. Troops are at around 45% now. Extending out that ways a bit, closer to Japan may make him sweat a little.

CVE 8 is on map, heading to Pearl. Those and the fleet carriers will probably cover the Noumea landing when it's time. I'm figuring that's two months away at a minimum, so I'm not rushing this. I could wait until some Essexes and CVLs show up, too. Our "decisive battle" may wind up being down there.

I figure a good fresh look was needed at this point.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/14/2015 6:39:14 PM   
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I figure a good fresh look was needed at this point.


Makes sense. Good luck as you keep fighting against the Japanese.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/16/2015 11:58:14 PM   
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Turn 400.

Moving stuff in India. I've got base forces and Seabees coming in like anything, and I'm spreading out to lots of bases. I may be able to occupy pretty any base near the front soon, as well as build them up.

I'm setting up a large-ish raid on Trincomalee, escorted by my P-38 squadron. I'm hunching that his slow BBs are staging out of there. I rarely catch them at sea. 3 squadrons of B-25s, 2 of B-26s and one of B-18 will do this.

At Pearl, two of my battleships went into the yard. The Nevadas, I think. They'll be out something like 270 days, so it's a big one. They're getting their 5"/38 outfit.

Intel monkey sez that a fragment of an IJA division is shipping to Darwin. My raid may have spooked him a bit, I think.

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I'm setting up a large-ish raid on Trincomalee, escorted by my P-38 squadron. I'm hunching that his slow BBs are staging out of there. I rarely catch them at sea. 3 squadrons of B-25s, 2 of B-26s and one of B-18 will do this.

Not sure if you can really do any damage at all with level bombers carrying 500 lb bombs against BBs. Even if you get a hit or 5 not going to do anything except damage some light system damage. I've only ever found level bombing to be effective against merchant ships. You really need torpedo bombers to get at those BBs.

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Status: offline 		No, but it may spook him into relocating them further away. Any other ships I nail are just a bonus.

In my paranoia, I'm hoping I set the Lightnings to escort. Hopefully, I didn't forget. Last time I visited, he's had Zekes on CAP on Ceylon.



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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/17/2015 4:22:06 AM   
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10 January 1946

Turn 400.


That does not compute.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/17/2015 5:04:00 AM   
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10 January 1946

Turn 400.


That does not compute.

Multi-day turns?

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/17/2015 11:42:10 AM   
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Fixed it.

If it were then, You'd be seeing P-80 sweeps.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/17/2015 8:42:49 PM   
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Well, being the bumblehead that I am, I did forget to set the Lightnings to escort. Fortunately, the first wave of B-25s soaked most of the CAP up and the rest cruised in. The intel screen lists 10 going down, though the report shows a lot less. It looks like his battlewagons aren't there, but I messed up plenty.

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Morning Air attack on Trincomalee , at 31,47

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 14

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
AV Kamikawa Maru, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 9000 feet
Port Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (14 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
14 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on Trincomalee , at 31,47

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 15 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 2

Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
APD Asakaze, Bomb hits 2, on fire
APD Kyukaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26B Marauder bombing from 9000 feet *
Port Attack: 3 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 66 minutes

Massive explosion on APD Asakaze


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Morning Air attack on Trincomalee , at 31,47

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 1

Allied aircraft
B-18A Bolo x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-18A Bolo: 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x B-18A Bolo bombing from 9000 feet *
Port Attack: 2 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
59th Sentai with Ki-44-IIa Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Trincomalee , at 31,47

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 16

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
APD Matsukaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AV Sanyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
xAK Koyu Maru, Bomb hits 1
xAK Kinkasan Maru, Bomb hits 1
APD Fuji, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires

Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Port Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb



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Morning Air attack on Trincomalee , at 31,47

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 34 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 16

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
APD Kyukaze, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Zuiko Maru, Bomb hits 1
AV Sanyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAP Kashima Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires
AV Kamikawa Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire
xAK Hokusho Maru, Bomb hits 1
xAK Kinkasan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Nitiran Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
APD Asakaze, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Port hits 3
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-25C Mitchell bombing from 8000 feet
Port Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb


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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 3/17/2015 9:46:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh I didn't realize the raid was on the port itself! I guess I misread and misinterpreted what you wrote earlier. Yes, level bombers can definitely hit stationary ships in port with some accuracy :)

And really I think you're better off those BBs weren't there. Those APDs and xAKs can actually sink from 500 lb bombs. Sure you could have potentially put out a BB for a couple of weeks but personally I think you're better off outright sinking a handful of xAKs and APD

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