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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 9/16/2015 11:04:00 PM   
Mundy


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From: Neenah
Status: offline 		Not a bad idea. I could ship some troops to Warangal and start them down. I'd have to wait a bit, as the blockers have to take the crap road down.

I'm not sure how thoroughly he's covering the routes with recon planes.

I wonder if this would provoke a move by him on Jubbulpore. I've had intel of an armored unit prepping for there and I've since moved my own unit of tanks in, in addition to the troops already there.



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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 9/17/2015 8:25:14 PM   
Mundy


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I found the last IJN sub near Karachi. A little further out this time, about 8 hexes west.

quote:

Submarine attack near Masirah at 33,8

Japanese Ships
SS I-166, hits 7, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
KV Auricula
xAP Andrew Furuseth
xAP Macedon
xAP Tjinegara
xAP Noordam
xAP Klipfontein
DD MacDonough
DE Seid
DE Osterhaus

SS I-166 is sighted by escort
I-166 diving deep ....
DD MacDonough attacking submerged sub ....
SS I-166 forced to surface!
DD MacDonough firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Seid firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Osterhaus firing on surfaced sub ....
DD MacDonough firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Seid firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Osterhaus firing on surfaced sub ....
DD MacDonough firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Seid firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Osterhaus firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Seid firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Osterhaus firing on surfaced sub ....
DD MacDonough firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Seid firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Osterhaus firing on surfaced sub ....
DD MacDonough firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Seid firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Osterhaus firing on surfaced sub ....
DD MacDonough firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Seid firing on surfaced sub ....
DE Osterhaus firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves


The DD brought her to the surface and the DE finished her off. I'm happy this wasn't one of my convoys with the assault transports. This looks like a routine shipment.

Another encounter in the Sulu Sea.

quote:

Submarine attack near Taytay at 75,83

Japanese Ships
xAKL Gyokurei Maru, Shell hits 29, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Harder, hits 3

xAKL Gyokurei Maru is sighted by SS Harder
SS Harder attacking on the surface


Hornet will depart next turn.

I'm watching my Baker Is invaders. If they're spotted early, I'll withdraw them. If I don't take it now, I will when I kick off the Ceylon landings.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 9/18/2015 9:56:49 PM   
Mundy


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The Baker invaders are a day and a half from their target. They've just been sighted this turn. I'm unsure at this point if CF will firewall KB to get there or not. Either way, the troops will be ashore by then. I just have the three CVEs providing cover.

The attack force for Cocanada/Vizagapatnam will be a hex away next turn. The armored group consisting of Humbers are there already waiting for them. They'll go in together.

Hornet's on the way out from New Zealand, rounding the peak on the east coast. I had them going south to the map edge from there but changed it to due east. They're unsighted, which is good. All the planes were disabled when I transferred them to ship, but half are up now. In her current state, her cruise/max speeds are 15/23. She's currently 29 hexes from both Noumea and Suva, so barring Emilies, should get out unsighted. I think Mavis' max out at 24, so that's no problem.

LSTs have been showing up at Aden, so they're headed out to Karachi after loading up on supply. I think Bunker Hill got a slight update as she's in the yard, but will be out in four days. With 4 CVs and 4 CVLs there, I think I'll route any further carriers coming in to Pearl to join up with CV-8 when she gets repaired.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 9/19/2015 5:24:11 PM   
Mundy


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Stuff's happening now.

On the previous turn, CF decided on an air offensive on Hyderabad. Of course, I wasn't ready for the high altitude sweeps.

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Morning Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 38,540 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 37

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 8
Hurricane FR.IIb x 4
F6F-3 Hellcat x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 32540 feet

CAP engaged:
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(8 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
VMF-441 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 3 on standby, 3 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 32370.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes
No.2 Sqn IAF with Hurricane FR.IIb (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 65 NM, estimated altitude 34,540 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 4
Hurricane FR.IIb x 1
F6F-3 Hellcat x 6

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 32540 feet

CAP engaged:
VMF-441 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 33540 and 34540.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 33540 and 35540.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
No.2 Sqn IAF with Hurricane FR.IIb (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters to 33540.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 71 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 37

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 2
F6F-3 Hellcat x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Dakota III: 1 destroyed on ground
C-47 Skytrain: 1 destroyed on ground
B-24D1 Liberator: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
7 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VMF-441 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 31540 and 32540.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 33540 and 34540.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 37

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 2
F6F-3 Hellcat x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
C-47 Skytrain: 3 destroyed on ground
Dakota III: 1 destroyed on ground
R5C-1 Commando: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
20 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VMF-441 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 31540.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 34540.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 12

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 1
F6F-3 Hellcat x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 11000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VMF-441 with F6F-3 Hellcat (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 31540.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters to 34540.
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 64 NM, estimated altitude 34,514 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 3

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 1
F6F-3 Hellcat x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 31514 feet *

CAP engaged:
VMF-441 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 26000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes
No.136 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 17000 , scrambling fighters to 24000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid detected at 36 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 26

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 31514 feet *


I moved a bunch of good planes in this turn, but I wasn't expecting much, as we've both been doing one-and-done raids in India.

Not this time...

quote:

Morning Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 48 NM, estimated altitude 33,540 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 37

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 10
P-38G Lightning x 17
P-40K Warhawk x 15
P-40N1 Warhawk x 15
P-40N5 Warhawk x 32
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 18
P-51A Mustang x 32
F4U-1 Corsair x 12
F6F-3 Hellcat x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 12 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N1 Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-40N5 Warhawk: 3 destroyed
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed
P-51A Mustang: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
VMF-217 with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 23000 and 32600.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
VMF-221 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 31000 and 32000.
Raid is overhead
No.113 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 23000 and 30000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
5318th PAU/FS with P-51A Mustang (4 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
16 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 27000 , scrambling fighters between 27000 and 27780.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
23rd FG/75th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 27460.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
23rd FG/76th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (1 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 27460.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 3 minutes
8th FG/80th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 29580.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
80th FG/90th FS with P-40N1 Warhawk (4 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
14 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 33670.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
80th FG/459th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 34000 , scrambling fighters between 28000 and 34550.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
311th FBG/529th FBS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 37000 , scrambling fighters between 36000 and 37000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
311th FBG/530th FBS with P-51A Mustang (1 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 27000 , scrambling fighters between 27000 and 27780.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 4 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 35 NM, estimated altitude 33,514 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 26

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 9
P-38G Lightning x 17
P-40K Warhawk x 15
P-40N1 Warhawk x 11
P-40N5 Warhawk x 25
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 15
P-51A Mustang x 25
F4U-1 Corsair x 12
F6F-3 Hellcat x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
P-51A Mustang: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-84a Frank sweeping at 31514 feet

CAP engaged:
VMF-217 with F4U-1 Corsair (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 29907.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 13 minutes
VMF-221 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 30780 and 33540.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
No.113 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 31550.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
23rd FG/75th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 27780.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 49 minutes
8th FG/80th FS with P-40K Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 8 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
80th FG/90th FS with P-40N1 Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 14000 and 33670.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
80th FG/459th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 34000 , scrambling fighters between 16000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
311th FBG/529th FBS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 37000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 34932.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
311th FBG/530th FBS with P-51A Mustang (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 27000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 29540.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
5318th PAU/FS with P-51A Mustang (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 27000 , scrambling fighters between 27780 and 36540.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
23rd FG/76th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 30780.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 38,540 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 4

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 7
P-38G Lightning x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 12
P-40N1 Warhawk x 11
P-40N5 Warhawk x 23
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 13
P-51A Mustang x 16
F4U-1 Corsair x 10
F6F-3 Hellcat x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-47D2 Thunderbolt: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
VMF-217 with F4U-1 Corsair (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 25780 and 32514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
VMF-221 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 33514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
No.113 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 34514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
23rd FG/75th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 25748 and 31514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
8th FG/80th FS with P-40K Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
80th FG/90th FS with P-40N1 Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
9 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 32540.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
80th FG/459th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 34000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 34000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 52 minutes
311th FBG/529th FBS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 37000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 31446.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
311th FBG/530th FBS with P-51A Mustang (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 27000 , scrambling fighters between 27780 and 29514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
5318th PAU/FS with P-51A Mustang (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 27000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 32780.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
23rd FG/76th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 33514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes



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Morning Air attack on Hyderabad , at 39,32

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 64 NM, estimated altitude 36,514 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 3

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 6
P-38G Lightning x 16
P-40K Warhawk x 10
P-40N1 Warhawk x 11
P-40N5 Warhawk x 22
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 11
P-51A Mustang x 16
F4U-1 Corsair x 10
F6F-3 Hellcat x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40N5 Warhawk: 1 destroyed

CAP engaged:
VMF-217 with F4U-1 Corsair (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters between 25780 and 32600.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
VMF-221 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 32000 , scrambling fighters to 32370.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
No.113 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 34514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
23rd FG/75th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 13000 , scrambling fighters between 25748 and 31514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
8th FG/80th FS with P-40K Warhawk (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters to 29580.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 40 minutes
80th FG/90th FS with P-40N1 Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 26000 and 32540.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes
80th FG/459th FS with P-38G Lightning (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 7 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 34000 , scrambling fighters between 27000 and 34550.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
311th FBG/529th FBS with P-47D2 Thunderbolt (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 10 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 37000 , scrambling fighters between 13000 and 36000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
311th FBG/530th FBS with P-51A Mustang (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 27000 , scrambling fighters between 27000 and 28514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
5318th PAU/FS with P-51A Mustang (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 27000 , scrambling fighters to 27780.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
23rd FG/76th FS with P-40N5 Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 11000 , scrambling fighters between 11000 and 33514.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 34 minutes


I dealt it out pretty good, I think.

My troops crossed the river to Cocanada, and did the auto shock attack. Fortunately, I get CAP from my nearby base.

quote:

Morning Air attack on 19th Indian Division, at 40,37 , near Cocanada

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 12 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 18

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 13
P-40E Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 8 destroyed, 4 damaged

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.5 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 14160.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
No.60 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 48 minutes
2-Vl.G.IV with P-40E Warhawk (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 9450.
Raid is overhead



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Morning Air attack on 19th Indian Division, at 40,37 , near Cocanada

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 28 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 6

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 8
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.5 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 3 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
No.60 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
3 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 61 minutes
2-Vl.G.IV with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes


quote:

Morning Air attack on 2/1st Med Regiment, at 40,37 , near Cocanada

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 34,540 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 33

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Aircraft Attacking:
32 x Ki-44-IIc Tojo sweeping at 32540 feet

CAP engaged:
2-Vl.G.IV with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(2 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 42 minutes



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Morning Air attack on 2/1st Med Regiment, at 40,37 , near Cocanada

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 30 NM, estimated altitude 36,540 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 8
P-40E Warhawk x 4

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

CAP engaged:
No.5 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
No.60 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 1 minutes
2-Vl.G.IV with P-40E Warhawk (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes


quote:

Morning Air attack on 7th Indian Division, at 40,37 , near Cocanada

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 21

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 16
P-40E Warhawk x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 6 destroyed, 7 damaged

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
2 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.5 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 21000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 21 minutes
No.60 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (8 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 23000.
Raid is overhead
2-Vl.G.IV with P-40E Warhawk (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Raid is overhead

Also attacking 19th Indian Division ...
Also attacking 7th Indian Division ...


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Morning Air attack on 7th Indian Division, at 40,37 , near Cocanada

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 26 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 9

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed by flak

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 6000 feet
Ground Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
No.5 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 46 minutes
No.60 Sqn RAF with Hurricane IIc Trop (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 1 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes


Two divisions still have to reach, and I've got disruption/fatigue with my current units. I've set them attack, since the divisions will probably cross next turn, and I don't want them to attack alone.

Here's the attack.

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Ground combat at Cocanada (41,37)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 23683 troops, 347 guns, 374 vehicles, Assault Value = 847

Defending force 18014 troops, 194 guns, 283 vehicles, Assault Value = 542

Allied adjusted assault: 770

Japanese adjusted defense: 6275

Allied assault odds: 1 to 8 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
556 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 22 (5 destroyed, 17 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
3345 casualties reported
Squads: 53 destroyed, 82 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 69 disabled
Engineers: 16 destroyed, 43 disabled
Guns lost 88 (12 destroyed, 76 disabled)
Vehicles lost 24 (4 destroyed, 20 disabled)

Assaulting units:
72nd British Brigade
14th Indian Division
2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment
Waziristan Division
2/1st Med Regiment
6th Mixed A/T Mtr Regiment

Defending units:
18th Division
2nd Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
25th Army
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Mortar Battalion


Meanwhile at Baker Island...

He's had a few subs guarding that island.

quote:

Submarine attack near Baker Island at 149,136

Japanese Ships
SS I-168, hits 30, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Tennessee
BB California
CL St. Louis
DD Bennett
DMS Hamilton
DMS Southard
APA Harry Lee
APA J. Franklin Bell
AP Gen. T.H.Bliss
AK Ganymede
AK Naos
xAP Starr King
DD Hull
DD Farragut
DD Spence
DD Renshaw

SS I-168 is sighted by escort
I-168 bottoming out ....
DD Hull fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Farragut fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Spence fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Renshaw attacking submerged sub ....
DD Renshaw attacking submerged sub ....
DD Renshaw fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Renshaw fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Renshaw fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Renshaw attacking submerged sub ....
DD Renshaw is out of ASW ammo
DD Renshaw is out of ASW ammo
DD Renshaw is out of ASW ammo
SS I-168 forced to surface!
DD Hull firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Farragut firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Spence firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Hull firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Farragut firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Spence firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Hull firing on surfaced sub ....
DD Farragut firing on surfaced sub ....
Sub slips beneath the waves


Then the landings.

quote:

Pre-Invasion action off Baker Island (149,136)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

48 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Tennessee
BB California
CL St. Louis
DD Hull
DD Farragut
DD Spence
DD Renshaw
DD Harrison
DD Bennett
APA Harry Lee

Japanese ground losses:
799 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

BB Tennessee firing at Maizuru 1st SNLF
BB California firing at Maizuru 2nd SNLF
CL St. Louis firing at Maizuru 2nd SNLF
DD Hull firing at Maizuru 1st SNLF
DD Farragut firing at Maizuru 2nd SNLF
DD Spence firing at Maizuru 1st SNLF
DD Renshaw firing at Maizuru 2nd SNLF
DD Harrison firing at Maizuru 1st SNLF
DD Bennett firing at Maizuru 2nd SNLF
DD Spence fired at enemy troops
DD Bennett fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


quote:

Invasion Support action off Baker Island (149,136)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

16 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Tennessee
BB California
CL St. Louis
DD Hull
DD Spence
DD Renshaw
DD Harrison
DD Bennett
APA Harry Lee

Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

BB Tennessee firing at Maizuru 2nd SNLF
BB California firing at Maizuru 1st SNLF
CL St. Louis firing at Maizuru 1st SNLF
DD Hull firing at Maizuru 1st SNLF
DD Renshaw firing at Maizuru 2nd SNLF
DD Spence fired at enemy troops
DD Renshaw fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards


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Invasion Support action off Baker Island (149,136)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

19 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
APA Harry Lee
DD Hull

Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


quote:

Pre-Invasion action off Baker Island (149,136)
Defensive Guns engage approaching landing force

48 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Tennessee
BB California
CL St. Louis
DD Hull
DD Farragut
DD Spence
DD Renshaw
DD Harrison
DD Bennett
APA Harry Lee

Japanese ground losses:
799 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

BB Tennessee firing at Maizuru 1st SNLF
BB California firing at Maizuru 2nd SNLF
CL St. Louis firing at Maizuru 2nd SNLF
DD Hull firing at Maizuru 1st SNLF
DD Farragut firing at Maizuru 2nd SNLF
DD Spence firing at Maizuru 1st SNLF
DD Renshaw firing at Maizuru 2nd SNLF
DD Harrison firing at Maizuru 1st SNLF
DD Bennett firing at Maizuru 2nd SNLF
DD Spence fired at enemy troops
DD Bennett fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


I'm starting to think having a bombardment group accompany an invasion is redundant. Next turn, the BBs will split off to bombard on their own.

The attack itself wasn't impressive, and I expected better.

quote:

Ground combat at Baker Island (149,136)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 4577 troops, 121 guns, 138 vehicles, Assault Value = 196

Defending force 3920 troops, 38 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 101

Allied adjusted assault: 17

Japanese adjusted defense: 32

Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
307 casualties reported
Squads: 26 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled

Allied ground losses:
724 casualties reported
Squads: 8 destroyed, 31 disabled
Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 69 (49 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 67 (12 destroyed, 55 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion
4th USMC Tank Battalion
147th(Sep) Infantry Rgt /3
225th Field Artillery Battalion
97th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd Pion Bn /1

Defending units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
44th Field Const Co
7th JNAF Coy





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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 9/19/2015 9:35:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Where is the KB? The Japanese could win at Baker if they fly in reinforcements and the KB shows up relatively soon. Had something like that happen in my game. Try to finish up Baker quickly.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 9/19/2015 11:27:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm surprised it took 30 hits to sink that sub. The air battles seemed to go well on the whole. Good luck at Baker!

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 9/20/2015 1:00:20 AM   
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I'm starting to think having a bombardment group accompany an invasion is redundant. Next turn, the BBs will split off to bombard on their own.


Embeded battleships in a amphibious group vs a separate bombardment group serve different functions.

If you have battleships embedded they will protect the unloading ships and soak up shore bombardment. If you keep them separate then they will not serve this function.



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ORIGINAL: Wargmr

quote:

I'm starting to think having a bombardment group accompany an invasion is redundant. Next turn, the BBs will split off to bombard on their own.


Embeded battleships in a amphibious group vs a separate bombardment group serve different functions.

If you have battleships embedded they will protect the unloading ships and soak up shore bombardment. If you keep them separate then they will not serve this function.



I also like the fact that embedded warships do not shoot up the facilities you are about to capture - they only shoot up enemy troops. I hate having a wrecked port after taking the base since it gets repaired last and the newly captured island need so much stuff off-loaded to it, or pulled out to avoid stacking limit issues.

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ORIGINAL: jwolf
I'm surprised it took 30 hits to sink that sub. The air battles seemed to go well on the whole. Good luck at Baker!


The sub was forced to the surface, so a lot of these were various gun hits. CF has at least two more subs there, one of which I've beaten up a bit last turn.



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The pain of ground warfare.

KB has deemed itself fit for an appearance, just west of Baker Is. All three CVEs went down, as they only attacked them. With luck, my battleships can escape, leaving chaff behind for bait. I won't fret the loss of jeep carriers too much, as they're coming out like hot cakes lately. It's nice to know KB is lingering to the east like this, as I won't have to worry about them near Ceylon. My fleet carriers should be safe. I have two subs just east of KB, heading over to intercept. It would be nice if I finally got lucky.

Most of the CVE air groups relocated to Canton, and it just so happens, I have transports unloading more base forces able to handle the spike in plane counts. Hopefully KB doesn't move south to mess with them.

quote:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Baker Island at 150,136

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 20 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 80
B6N2 Jill x 84
D4Y2 Judy x 76
D4Y3 Judy x 17

Allied aircraft
FM-1 Wildcat x 22
F6F-3 Hellcat x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 4 destroyed
B6N2 Jill: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
D4Y2 Judy: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
D4Y2 Judy: 1 destroyed by flak
D4Y3 Judy: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
FM-1 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
CVE Natoma Bay, Bomb hits 12, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CVE Liscome Bay, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
CVE Casablanca, Bomb hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage
DE Brooks, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
DD Bache, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CLAA Prince Robert, Bomb hits 1
DD Nicholson, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Stanly
DD Charles Ausburne, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Aulick

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x D4Y2 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
17 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
11 x D4Y2 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
16 x B6N2 Jill bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
16 x D4Y2 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
17 x B6N2 Jill bombing from 10000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
8 x D4Y2 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
16 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
12 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
17 x B6N2 Jill launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
4 x D4Y2 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
6 x D4Y2 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D4Y2 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
1 x D4Y2 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
5 x D4Y2 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y3 Judy releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y2 Judy releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D4Y2 Judy releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 500 kg SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
VC(F)-39 with FM-1 Wildcat (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 14 minutes
VC(F)-63 with FM-1 Wildcat (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
VRF-7F with F6F-3 Hellcat (5 airborne, 11 on standby, 11 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes

Fuel storage explosion on CVE Casablanca
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Casablanca
Ammo storage explosion on CVE Liscome Bay
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Natoma Bay
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CVE Liscome Bay
Fuel storage explosion on CVE Liscome Bay
Massive explosion on DD Nicholson
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DE Brooks


The ground war isn't going well there.

quote:

Ground combat at Baker Island (149,136)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2927 troops, 32 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 77

Defending force 3556 troops, 84 guns, 114 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Japanese ground losses:
186 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
44th Field Const Co
7th JNAF Coy

Defending units:
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
4th USMC Tank Battalion
225th Field Artillery Battalion
97th Field Artillery Battalion
641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion


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Ground combat at Baker Island (149,136)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3556 troops, 84 guns, 114 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Defending force 3389 troops, 32 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 64

Allied adjusted assault: 18

Japanese adjusted defense: 117

Allied assault odds: 1 to 6 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
152 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 12 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
243 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 8 (3 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Assaulting units:
147th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
4th USMC Tank Battalion
97th Field Artillery Battalion
225th Field Artillery Battalion
641st Towed Tank Destroyer Battalion

Defending units:
Maizuru 1st SNLF
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
44th Field Const Co
7th JNAF Coy


I just don't have the knack for judging the right amount of troops to use. My first cheap shot was three USMC para battalions. Now a full USA infantry regiment plus armor. It looks like I'll need a full division to do this, in the end. I have one at Pearl prepping for this, if it comes to it.

Cocanada is also grinding along not very well.

quote:

Ground combat at Cocanada (41,37)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 745 troops, 68 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 514

Defending force 43251 troops, 671 guns, 701 vehicles, Assault Value = 1246

Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Assaulting units:
18th Division
2nd Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
25th Army
3rd Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
72nd British Brigade
7th Indian Division
19th Indian Division
14th Indian Division
2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment
Waziristan Division
2/1st Med Regiment
6th Mixed A/T Mtr Regiment


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Ground combat at Cocanada (41,37)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 43223 troops, 671 guns, 701 vehicles, Assault Value = 1243

Defending force 17700 troops, 194 guns, 281 vehicles, Assault Value = 514

Allied adjusted assault: 394

Japanese adjusted defense: 3425

Allied assault odds: 1 to 8 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
305 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 25 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Vehicles lost 12 (2 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1667 casualties reported
Squads: 21 destroyed, 126 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 39 (5 destroyed, 34 disabled)
Vehicles lost 38 (1 destroyed, 37 disabled)

Assaulting units:
7th Indian Division
2nd Hyder Lancers Regiment
72nd British Brigade
14th Indian Division
19th Indian Division
Waziristan Division
2/1st Med Regiment
6th Mixed A/T Mtr Regiment

Defending units:
18th Division
2nd Tank Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
25th Army
3rd Mortar Battalion


He must be dug in rather well. In terms of AV, I probably have at least 2-1 on him. I'll have to figure out whether to grind it out or pull the troops back. Fortunately, if he decides to bomb, my CAP bleeding over from Bezwada can help, and he's been taking air losses already, bomber-wise. I unloaded a bunch of heavy bombers on them this turn, to little effect. I've never been able to bomb Cocanada well, as it must be buried in the jungle.

For Ceylon, I'm looking at my transport capacity for the initial lift over.

Adding up all the APAs, LCI, and other "assault" transports, I'll probably have about 81,280 in personnel haulage. I won't worry about equipment capacity, as all the LSTs, AKAs and such will easily cover that end. I'm only worrying about people.

At Bombay, I have at or have enroute to, for the US: 5 Army infantry divisions, 1 Army cavalry division (1st Cav), and 4 USMC divisions. All of whom whose people count adds up to 105,457. Bear in mind, I'll have lots of armor on assault transports also, whose space I can deal with. I'll have to mix in some commercial transport to make up the difference. All the British and Indian infantry will have to come across on the commercial stuff. I didn't count them, but I'm probably looking at an additional 5 infantry divisions on that end. With the way Cocanada and Baker are going, I'm hoping this is even enough.

I'll probably have to recycle all these transports to get the boatloads of base and engineer forces over, once I take Colombo. I have an awful lot of them set for this.

My amphib force HQ is in Bombay. Their special ship is enroute from Cape Town. I have a second ship, which I'll send to Pearl.

Hornet's chugging along, unseen. I figure she'll reach Pearl in about a week or so.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 9/20/2015 6:26:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would guess you need to bomb his ground units at Cocanada in order to get the upper hand on him. Probably at Baker, too, but with the KB there that is out of the question.

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Mundy: I just don't have the knack for judging the right amount of troops to use. My first cheap shot was three USMC para battalions. Now a full USA infantry regiment plus armor. It looks like I'll need a full division to do this, in the end. I have one at Pearl prepping for this, if it comes to it.


The only reason you had more casualties at Baker Is. is the level 4 forts. Look at his losses when he tried to bombard you! All you need is a unit of Combat Engineers to take down those forts. An unprepped unit should be able to land without heavy losses because you have a substantial bridgehead. Use deliberate attack in the first assault using the engineers, so they can use cover during their assault. Shock attacks are for after the forts have been smashed and the enemy troops disrupted.

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Mundy: I just don't have the knack for judging the right amount of troops to use. My first cheap shot was three USMC para battalions. Now a full USA infantry regiment plus armor. It looks like I'll need a full division to do this, in the end. I have one at Pearl prepping for this, if it comes to it.


The only reason you had more casualties at Baker Is. is the level 4 forts. Look at his losses when he tried to bombard you! All you need is a unit of Combat Engineers to take down those forts. An unprepped unit should be able to land without heavy losses because you have a substantial bridgehead. Use deliberate attack in the first assault using the engineers, so they can use cover during their assault. Shock attacks are for after the forts have been smashed and the enemy troops disrupted.

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BBFanboy is right that you needed combat engineers. A full division was not the right tool here regardless BUT a combat engineer regiment would have been a welcome addition to the invasion force. Also, I think your expectations were a bit too high. With a level 4 fort it will take time and firepower to defeat. That's how it worked IRL and that's how it works here.

Also, I do not believe that strike came from the KB. It was too small. Probably mini-KB. But I guess it was enough to take control of the seas anyway.


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Status: offline 		I do tend to neglect those. Are they designated as "combat engineers" or do "engineers" work? Most infantry units have organic engineer with them. Are they applicable to this task, or do they generally need extra help?

I didn't mention, but there were two carrier task forces, about two hexes apart. Intel, (probably shaky) indicated 120 - 140 each of fighters and bombers in both task forces.

I'll make sure engineers are at the front of the line for Ceylon. I'd rather learn my lessons with this than at the big show.

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I do tend to neglect those. Are they designated as "combat engineers" or do "engineers" work? Most infantry units have organic engineer with them. Are they applicable to this task, or do they generally need extra help?

I didn't mention, but there were two carrier task forces, about two hexes apart. Intel, (probably shaky) indicated 120 - 140 each of fighters and bombers in both task forces.

I'll make sure engineers are at the front of the line for Ceylon. I'd rather learn my lessons with this than at the big show.

While the name of any device is only a text field for display to us humans, AFAIK all of the devices which have a combat engineer ability (more or less a tick box in the scenario file) have "combat" and "engineer" in the name. I suppose there might be exceptions but none come to mind right now. Many times you will see a year added, and perhaps some other descriptive word added also.

Most emphatically, ordinary engineers do NOT have combat engineer ability. Combat engineers have the ability to destroy fortifications much better than ordinary infantry squads.

Also - I learned this one the hard way - the game totally slaughters them if they are without other infantry squads. I sent an invasion of only a combat engineer unit to a very lightly held island and they were wiped out. A developer confirmed it was just like Hemingway said.

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Status: offline 		Thanks for that witpqs. I did see a combat engineer regiment at Karachi, so I'm moving them down to Bombay with the other US combat forces.

31 October 1943

KB is definitely involved, as some of the air groups were labelled "Shokaku", "Zuikaku" and "Akagi". They're busy mopping up my escaping ships. I think my battleships will get away untouched. One of his carrier groups is straying close to Canton. I've set all fighters there to zero CAP and moved in more from Christmas, along with more dive bombers. I may get a shot at them next turn. It would be nice if I got lucky here.

At Cocanada, I'm pulling the boys out. The IJA 1st Armored Division showed up this turn, which pushes the AV ratio into the brick wall region. They were probably already at Vizagapatnam.

I launched a small, one squadron raid to the airbase at Raipur, and did a fair amount of damage there. Of course, being me, I forgot to switch them off next turn. Maybe I can shut that one down for now.

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Morning Air attack on Raipur , at 45,31

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 22 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 20

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIc Trop x 6
B-25D1 Mitchell x 13
P-40N1 Warhawk x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 1 destroyed on ground
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 3 destroyed
B-25D1 Mitchell: 1 damaged
P-40N1 Warhawk: 7 destroyed

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 35

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-25D1 Mitchell bombing from 7000 feet
Airfield Attack: 6 x 500 lb GP Bomb

CAP engaged:
24th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 10 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes


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A new month.

I guess my torpedoes are officially "normal" now.

Between encounters and my airstrike from Canton, we have a better picture of KB.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Canton Island at 154,141

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 38 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 63

Allied aircraft
FM-1 Wildcat x 10
F6F-3 Hellcat x 39
TBF-1 Avenger x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
FM-1 Wildcat: 2 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed
TBF-1 Avenger: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 2 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CV Zuikaku
CVL Shoho
CV Katsuragi

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb
6 x TBF-1 Avenger bombing from 5000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 500 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (4 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 33220.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (3 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 33220.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
Katsuragi-1 with A6M5 Zero (5 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Canton Island at 154,141

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 78 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 49

Allied aircraft
SBD-5 Dauntless x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 8 destroyed

CAP engaged:
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
11 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 9000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
10 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 51 minutes
Katsuragi-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
12 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 70 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Canton Island at 154,141

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 68 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 45

Allied aircraft
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
CV Akagi

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 9 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 8 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 19 minutes
Katsuragi-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 8 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Canton Island at 154,141

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 67 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 40

Allied aircraft
SBD-5 Dauntless x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-5 Dauntless: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SBD-5 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
Akagi-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 9 scrambling)
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 8 scrambling)
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M5 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 6 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 4 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 10000 and 14000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
Katsuragi-1 with A6M5 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 8 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
1 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 11000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 20 minutes


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Enderbury Island at 159,142, Range 30,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CV Shokaku
CV Zuikaku
CV Katsuragi
CV Akagi
CVL Shoho
BB Kongo
BB Hiei
CA Takao
CLAA Tenryu
DD Akizuki
DD Teruzuki
DD Hatsuzuki
DD Kazegumo
DD Makigumo
DD Makinami

Allied Ships
AP Gen. T.H.Bliss
AK Allioth
AK Hyperion

Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 20,000 yards
Range closes to 28,000 yards...
Range increases to 30,000 yards...
Range closes to 29,000 yards...
Range closes to 28,000 yards...
Range closes to 27,000 yards...
Range closes to 26,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 26,000 yards
Range closes to 25,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 25,000 yards
Range increases to 27,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 27,000 yards
Range increases to 29,000 yards...
Range increases to 30,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat


So we've confirmed Shokaku, Zuikaku, Katsuragi, Akagi and Shoho. That's one of the two carrier task forces. No clue who's in the other one.

It's probably safe to say CF is oblivious to what I have in India right now. There's no way they'll interfere with my op there.

My two battleships made it to Christmas. I had them continue east on a roundabout route to Pearl, as KB may still approach this island. I'm trying to get fighters moved over there for CAP. I'm not real happy with my strike. The escorts only flew with the TBFs, leaving the dive bombers hanging out to dry. If they'd have been together, I probably would have had some good shots at his ships.

I kind of wish I had kicked off a Port Moresby landing at the same time. I would have gotten them ashore anyway. I'll keep that in mind for next time.

In India, my land group has mostly extracted itself from Cocanada. The last three infantry divisions should be out next turn. A cruiser force bombarded them on the 31st, but did minimal damage.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 9/21/2015 9:56:00 PM   
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It's probably safe to say CF is oblivious to what I have in India right now. There's no way they'll interfere with my op there.

What sort of intel would lead you to believe this? It's probably unlikely but at the same time the biggest disasters I have seen on the Allied side come when this assumption is false.

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ORIGINAL: Mundy
I'm not real happy with my strike. The escorts only flew with the TBFs, leaving the dive bombers hanging out to dry. If they'd have been together, I probably would have had some good shots at his ships.

Did all the air units have the same HQ? That makes a difference. Though in my experience I still get fragmented strikes even when they have the same HQ in the same level 9 base. Just the variability built into the game.
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ORIGINAL: Mundy
I kind of wish I had kicked off a Port Moresby landing at the same time. I would have gotten them ashore anyway. I'll keep that in mind for next time.

You've only found HALF the KB. Besides even with no KB the Japanese could put up plenty of fight for Port Moresby. It's not like you had CV support for that operation either. Maybe you could have landed some units but it's gonna take a lot more to win a campaign for Port Moresby. It's a pretty ideal place for Japan to defend.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 9/23/2015 4:36:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've had my "bait" surface group sitting at Bombay, which has never been discovered yet. No sub incidents transferring my carriers to Karachi. I kept the planes on deck, too, so as not to give things away.

Not sure about the HQ. Have to check.

I only got IDs on one of the two carrier groups that were in the area, so I'm fairly certain this was the whole group.

I'm going to try to simply starve Port Moresby at this point. It's been forever since I've seen a supply convoy make the trip. I have a number of subs covering the approach, and my bases in Australia give me the reach needed. The number of troops he has there will make anything I try a chore -- especially with commercial transport. I was thinking out loud mostly.

I am considering taking one or two of the Jimas north of Japan, especially the more developed ones. I have troops in the Aleutians prepping for some of these bases. It would be a long haul for KB to interfere with these. I've been stockpiling troops at Dutch Harbor and Adak as of late. A Canadian brigade has been reassembled there, too. A sub base a stones throw from the Home Islands could be a real pain for him. Not to mentions what B-24s could do. I'd wait for CV support before trying this, as well as more assault transports.

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The setup.

There hasn't been much real action for awhile, apart from my subs bagging a cargo ship now and then.

I have fairly regular cargo runs enroute to Karachi, usually with at least one 100k convoy enroute on the map at any one time. Karachi's sitting at over 200k right now, and it is trickling down. Cochin actually has 4,000 supply, rather than the usual 1 or 2. I'm moving a bunch of base forces and Engineers to Calicut to get an extra base going down there. Hopefully supplies will hit it.

Most of my C-47s and such are at Bangalore. When D-Day comes, they'll surge to Madras to move the paras over. Dambulla has been under recon for awhile, which indicates about 1,000 troops there. Most likely base force types. A large chunk of my heavy bombers are at Bangalore also. Just about all of them have recovered their strength. I have something like 370 aviation support there. Any P-38s will go there for escort purposes, but my main anti-fighter effort will be sweeps. I'll probably have a couple hundred heavy bombers involved. Lots of B-25s are in India also, so I'll use them, Beaufighters, Beauforts, Blenheims and whatever else. I have a squadron of external tank equipped Spitfires at Karachi, which I've moved south, so they'll help with the sweep front. Bangalore's useful, as I believe it's just out of range of his medium bombers -- with escorts anyway.

I have a bunch of assault transports moving to Bombay along the coast. I'm tired of adding numbers, so I'll use them to test my initial lift ability.

Another pack of 5-6 APAs are enroute from Cape Town, but will take at least three weeks to arrive. After that, I pretty much have the transports I'll use. LSTs are trickling in from Aden, but I have plenty of equipment shipping. Hauling people is what I need most of. The Amphibious TF HQ carrier is also on map and enroute to Karachi.

This will probably kick off in about a month. I'm getting the pieces set.

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Keeping it going.

I paid Lord Howe a visit, with satisfying results.

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Night Naval bombardment of Lord Howe Island at 100,169

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 9 damaged
Ki-46-III Dinah: 6 damaged
H8K1 Emily: 4 damaged
A6M5 Zero: 8 damaged
N1K1-J George: 32 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Helena
DD Nepal
DD Dale
DD Phelps

Japanese ground losses:
101 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 43
Port hits 8
Port fuel hits 3

CL Helena firing at Lord Howe Island
DD Nepal firing at Lord Howe Island
DD Dale firing at Lord Howe Island
DD Phelps firing at Lord Howe Island


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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 10/1/2015 2:58:12 PM   
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My dive bombers at Canton had been helping out the doomed invaders of Baker Island. Last turn, some Georges showed up and beat up the bombers and their Wildcat escorts a bit. They're grounded, and I'm sweeping them with F6Fs next turn. Either way, this is purely sideshow stuff.

I have one last group of APAs on map, heading for Bombay. They should arrive inside a week. It's looking like I could kick off the Ceylon invasion within the next two weeks. I have plenty to consider when I start this, starting with the land based air campaign. Should I mass sweep a day before the bombings, or do them concurrently? Not sure yet. Cochin has enough supply to handle a few squadrons of Jugs for this. Recon's indicating only fighters at Colombo and Trincomalee -- 160 at Colombo and 50 at Trincomalee. No indication of bombers or auxiliaries. There's a fair chance my invasion fleet will be on top of him before they're discovered. All recon activity on his part have been over my land bases in India. Even the 30+ subs I have surrounding the island haven't encountered search planes.

I'm trying to solely deal with the issue at hand and not pyramid my "successes" into the future, but I can't help thinking about the next moves after taking Ceylon. I'll most likely grab Male, Addu and Diego Garcia using a heavy rubber mallet on each. I'm seriously overloaded in base forces and Seabees in India, so I can do serious work on everything I take.

What next? A direct run on Calcutta would probably turn ugly, no matter how many divisions I use. I'm favoring taking the bases at the Andaman Islands. That would put the screws on Rangoon and everything to the north, and possibly open up the Malay peninsula. Naval air would have to hold their hands the entire way, but would probably do the job. CVEs would probably be needed for every supply convoy after that. Of course, by that point, losing Ceylon may cause KB to be realigned to that half of the map. The upside would be opening the path to the Gilberts/Marshalls. Would he split KB to cover both?

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 10/1/2015 4:38:39 PM   
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What next? A direct run on Calcutta would probably turn ugly, no matter how many divisions I use. I'm favoring taking the bases at the Andaman Islands. That would put the screws on Rangoon and everything to the north, and possibly open up the Malay peninsula. Naval air would have to hold their hands the entire way, but would probably do the job. CVEs would probably be needed for every supply convoy after that. Of course, by that point, losing Ceylon may cause KB to be realigned to that half of the map. The upside would be opening the path to the Gilberts/Marshalls. Would he split KB to cover both?

Well if it were me after taking Ceylon and I would aim to retake the rest of India back from the Japanese. This can be done with frontal land attacks coupled with amphibious landings along the eastern shore of India. The Andamans should be off limits until you have Calcutta and Malaya/Sumatra should be off limits until you have the Andamans. But either way concentrate on the task at hand...Ceylon is not a certain victory.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 10/1/2015 5:59:07 PM   
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If this doesn't work, I may throw in the towel. On the plus side, I'm throwing 10+ divisions, plus plenty of armor and other forces against about 20,000 troops. This should work. The paras at Dambulla should help things, too.

Provided things go to plan, I'll start moving recon assets over to check out the whole Calcutta area. Maybe he's skimped on a garrison there. If so, Diamond Harbor's the target -- maybe. One could also land lots of stuff at Vizagapatnam, combined with a new offensive out of Bezwada. That approach would kill a lot of IJA troops, perhaps easing the trip down the road a bit. All of this adds time to everything. Of course, everything is contingent of whether KB moves this way or not.

Either way, I'll have time to think about it. CF is going on vacation over the first half of October. I may get one final turn today. I'll be able to concentrate on my Japanese game vs AW1Steve. I'm doing better on the restart, compared to the first run. I haven't starved Japan of supply and I didn't let any invasion convoys get ambushed. I'm just trying to finish off Bataan right now.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 10/1/2015 6:24:41 PM   
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If this doesn't work, I may throw in the towel. On the plus side, I'm throwing 10+ divisions, plus plenty of armor and other forces against about 20,000 troops. This should work. The paras at Dambulla should help things, too.

You've gone too far to throw in the towel yet! You are only *just* getting all those CVs and CVEs. Anyways, I'm not worried about whether or not your ground units will be able to take the base. It's more about what ships you lose in trying to take the base.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 10/1/2015 6:42:35 PM   
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I'll have *lots* of naval air a hex away. 4 CVs, 5 CVLs and 4 CVEs -- a little over 300 fighters. As mentioned, I haven't seen any offensive air on the island. Extra task forces for minesweeping, ASW and surface combat would help confuse things also. My fleet carriers will each have a fast battleship with them, to help soak hit attempts.

Any opinion if I should sweep a day before bombing or do it together?

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 10/1/2015 7:06:20 PM   
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Re: the sweeps - if he has not detected the approach of your CVs and Amphibs I would hold them so as to try keep surprise.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 10/1/2015 8:05:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yep, I'm definitely taking care not to alert him early.

I've only recently seen one sub in the general SW area lately. I'm most worried about them giving the show away. I think if I hug the coastline all the way down, I'll be okay from them. That tactic has served me well thus far.

I'll be on hold until the 14th.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 10/1/2015 8:26:04 PM   
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Any opinion if I should sweep a day before bombing or do it together?

Honestly if you ask me you should suppress the air bases in Ceylon well before launching an invasion. It can be done too with a combination of naval bombardment and air attacks without bringing CVs. If it succeeds you should have no problems keeping the island suppressed for many months to come. There is always a chance you lose the surprise this way but even that isn't necessarily so bad. I think CF will be very weary of sortieing the KB on the far edge of the map in an area he won't have any LBA, especially if he has no confirmation on where your CVs are. And IMO the best part about this strategy is that if it works you won't even have to risk your CVs and CVEs here; without LBA the Japanese very well may just give up on the island. When it comes to late 43 I think the Japanese are far more inclined to give up these outlying positions once the LBA option has been taken away from the table.

EDIT: My greatest concern for the upcoming battle with the other strategy is that when you first try to suppress the base, it doesn't work immediately. And if the Japanese see CVs approaching at the same time then CF is just going to throw the kitchen sink of LBA at you. And that is the absolute worst case scenario because you are going to be trading Allied ships for Japanese planes which exactly what the Japanese want to do in this point in the war.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs Cannonfodder - 10/2/2015 2:56:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm leaning towards focusing everything at first on Colombo, as the majority of his fighter strength is there. If I trash that base, I'll focus on Trincomalee, keeping 2-3 squadrons on Colombo to keep the damage topped off. P-47s will sweep at max altitude, where they've pretty much been unbeatable. I have some P-51As in-country. I'm not really sure how to use them yet, as they're definitely not a high altitude fighter. With my southern bases getting supply, even my P-40s can participate. Quantity will be a quality of its own. My tank equipped Spitfires should do damage too.

I haven't taken a census recently, but I'm sure I have over 150 heavy bombers in India -- mostly B-24s. Some Wellingtons and B-17s are present also. Probably 5 more of B-25s, and then the mish-mash of Blenheims, etc.

I'll start the air war early. Hopefully I can do a Port Moresby on them. After the Ceylon bases, it's 18 hexes to Cocanada, and one more to Vizagapatnam (getting sick of typing that name...) He can forget about land based air supporting that distance. Even if he flew Betties and Nells in, they can fly without escort. That should make the para landing at Dambulla trouble-free also. The upside of the paras is that if Colombo is slow to fall, he can't rail any extra troops in.

You're right. If I do this correctly, the need for naval air should be minimal. I don't want to leave everyone without CAP, as the Netties don't deserve a free shot. I don't think he currently has any of these in India right now. Of course, redeploying them isn't very hard either.

I'm hoping Colombo's well stocked with supply. If not, the Cape Town convoys will focus there. Currently, I have 400k worth on map enroute to Karachi. Things have been easing up on the supply side in India.

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