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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 1:42:55 AM

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I know that I am taking this to a whole other level, but what the heck? I still get a little warm when I see an old photo of Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman. I preferred to watch this show alone, without my pants around...

....and here I thought I was the only one!

My moments when I didn't want the parents or the pants around involved the Sears Catalog, specifically the lingerie section.

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 1:46:53 AM

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My favorite model was this woman with black hair who was always looking off in the distance dramatically, as though she was a Bond girl or something. Never smiled. Just killed me.

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 2:01:43 AM

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I think this thread is creeping up to at least PG-13 rating. Maybe a good idea to not go much further down that track. Personally I wouldn't have a problem with it, but Matrix might. There are under age people in the Matrix forums, though I don't know if any are hanging out here.

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 2:01:58 AM

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I was never into GI Joe much, but my brother and I each used to get one of these sets every Christmas. Man we had some epic struggles in the back yard with our little green army men armies lol.

Jim

Jim I also have this set, but it came with a mountain to put the troops in like Navaronne. They also did another version of the mountain, but as Iwo Jima with the Japanese soldiers. I have never seen the Japanese set in person, but the detail they manage to accomplish back then almost puts some resin manufacturers today to shame. These were and are the ultimate plastic molded soldiers ever made in my opinion.

The set came with vehicles, barbed wire, concrete obstacles and pill boxes and even individual mines if I remember correctly. The 105mm and the 88 artillery pieces were nice as well as was the mortars.

The great thing is I still have this set somewhere packed up in a box - minus the mountain.

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 2:08:10 AM

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I think they'll survive this. Same era, not the same woman but hey.

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 2:26:57 AM

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I had those green plastic army men, but nothing fancy, just the ones that came in a bag at the local discount store. I built a bunch of home made rubber band guns attaching clothes pins to pieces of 1X1. My friends and I would line up the army men and shoot each other's men with the rubber band guns. We included some of my armor models in the line up too. Haven't thought about that in years...

I also had a few large scale soft plastic, green army men. I think there were about 8 of them and they were about 1/8 scale. They had accessories, weapons, and helmets that clicked into place.

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 3:07:22 AM

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I also had a few large scale soft plastic, green army men. I think there were about 8 of them and they were about 1/8 scale. They had accessories, weapons, and helmets that clicked into place.

Bill

Bill, holy cow man I am getting old, but when I first read this part of your post I had no idea of what you were talking about. Then I remembered. Yes, these were about 1/8 scale and they were of very good molding. What made me remember was when you said the helmets clicked into place. If I remember correctly, the helmets even had the webbing molded on the insides and the chin straps were loose like they were blown by the wind.

I also remember that the guns were sometimes hard to keep in the grasp of the molded hands, but over all they were great. I wish I could find a pic of those figures. I don't think I ever saw another nationality in this type however.

There were also a set about this same size of WW2 US soldiers that were in a bin at several Woolworth's stores(or some other stores like that) which were molded with all weapons/accessories attached as well. As kids we would dig mini fox holes in the ground and shoot bottle rockets at them.

I wish I still had all that stuff....

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 3:15:00 AM

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I think the most memorable Christmas morning in my life is the one where I got up to find that my parents (Santa) got me a Marx Civil War Playset.

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 3:28:09 AM

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Bill, holy cow man I am getting old, but when I first read this part of your post I had no idea of what you were talking about. Then I remembered. Yes, these were about 1/8 scale and they were of very good molding. What made me remember was when you said the helmets clicked into place. If I remember correctly, the helmets even had the webbing molded on the insides and the chin straps were loose like they were blown by the wind.

I also remember that the guns were sometimes hard to keep in the grasp of the molded hands, but over all they were great. I wish I could find a pic of those figures. I don't think I ever saw another nationality in this type however.

There were also a set about this same size of WW2 US soldiers that were in a bin at several Woolworth's stores(or some other stores like that) which were molded with all weapons/accessories attached as well. As kids we would dig mini fox holes in the ground and shoot bottle rockets at them.

I wish I still had all that stuff....

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The common ones were US soldiers all molded as one piece and they were about 1/32 scale. I had quite a few of those. I never did get any of other nationalities.

I just remembered finding a cowboys and Indians set in my sister's stuff. They were around 1/32 scale and molded the same way as the green army men. She was very much the tomboy, so most of her toys were boy's toys. She was also 10 years older, so she would have been in late high school or college when I found them put away in the garage. I also remember finding a stage coach with them that was a different scale and made with a different different plastic. It had some things broken, but I rehabilitated it.

Bill

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 4:33:56 AM

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Do you guys remember the little WWII/Civil War figures? Cannot remember their name but they came in a box about 6x6 inches and had 25-30 figures. I created entire platoons and then companies of them.

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 9:09:54 AM

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Speaking of Box sets, who remembers this beauty - its the original box art too. Fond memories of re-enacting Waterloo in HO/OO scale with my brother

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 2:37:17 PM

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Do you guys remember the little WWII/Civil War figures? Cannot remember their name but they came in a box about 6x6 inches and had 25-30 figures. I created entire platoons and then companies of them.

You are probably talking about Airfix HO figures. I could not get enough of them. In fact my brief criminal career took place when I got caught boosting a couple of boxes from J. C. Murphy;s Five and Dime. Rather than calling the cops, they did me a worse turn by calling my father, who proceeded to whip my butt to the point where the notion of any sort of further criminal enterprise made me physically sick to my stomach. Airfix is still in business. http://www.airfix.com/ no thanks to my efforts.

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 3:44:33 PM

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Speaking of Box sets, who remembers this beauty - its the original box art too. Fond memories of re-enacting Waterloo in HO/OO scale with my brother

There must have been some epic fights about who had to be the French.

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 3:47:21 PM

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This was one of my best Christmas gifts ever. The 'Guns of Navarone' playset...

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 3:54:13 PM

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Speaking of Box sets, who remembers this beauty - its the original box art too. Fond memories of re-enacting Waterloo in HO/OO scale with my brother

There must have been some epic fights about who had to be the French.

warspite1

Not really fights. I was the little brother in age and stature - my brother was built like a brick outhouse. For some reason I was always the French

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 4:18:39 PM

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One Christmas Santa brought me an Avalon Hill game called "Luftwaffe", thus begining my lifetime of being lazy and only working enough to support my wargame habit.

Thank You Santa!!!

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 4:33:47 PM

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I remember Felix the Cat, Master Cylinder and Poindexter

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 4:36:27 PM

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I got a game called Bismarck for Christmas, I think it was Avalon Hill too. It Played like AH's Midway.

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 4:41:47 PM

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I got a game called Bismarck for Christmas, I think it was Avalon Hill too. It Played like AH's Midway.

warspite1

That was my first "serious" wargame. Excellent game.

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 5:20:11 PM

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Do you guys remember the little WWII/Civil War figures? Cannot remember their name but they came in a box about 6x6 inches and had 25-30 figures. I created entire platoons and then companies of them.

You are probably talking about Airfix HO figures. I could not get enough of them. In fact my brief criminal career took place when I got caught boosting a couple of boxes from J. C. Murphy;s Five and Dime. Rather than calling the cops, they did me a worse turn by calling my father, who proceeded to whip my butt to the point where the notion of any sort of further criminal enterprise made me physically sick to my stomach. Airfix is still in business. http://www.airfix.com/ no thanks to my efforts.

YEP! Those are them. Wish I still had those guys. MANY hours spent playing with and destroying them...

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 6:04:06 PM

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I got a game called Bismarck for Christmas, I think it was Avalon Hill too. It Played like AH's Midway.

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That was my first "serious" wargame. Excellent game.

For me it was a toss-up between Flattop and Iron Bottom Sound.

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 7:25:06 PM

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I am convinced that Gary Grigsby was a "Flattop" fan.

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 10:50:04 PM

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You are probably talking about Airfix HO figures. I could not get enough of them. In fact my brief criminal career took place when I got caught boosting a couple of boxes from J. C. Murphy;s Five and Dime. Rather than calling the cops, they did me a worse turn by calling my father, who proceeded to whip my butt to the point where the notion of any sort of further criminal enterprise made me physically sick to my stomach. Airfix is still in business. http://www.airfix.com/ no thanks to my efforts.

Airfix has passed through a number of hands since your childhood. The original family sold the company to General Mills cereal in the 1970s and a lot of Airfix kits showed up on American shelves under the newly created MPC brand. Later they marketed Airfix kits as Airfix America or something like that. A British concern bought them back in the 1980s and went bankrupt. The Bank of Scotland ran the company until a couple of years ago when a private concern bought them and runs the company now.

All the surviving old kit names except some Japanese brands, have passed through many hands. Lindberg, MPC, AMT, Hawk, and a bunch of others are all brand names of a company called Round2. Most of Testors molds are owned by Italeri which has merged in the last year or two with Academy in South Korea. Italeri also bought up Accurate Miniatures molds and those are now appearing in Academy boxes.

Monogram bought Aurora's molds when they folded in 1978, but the molds were mostly destroyed in a train wreck. Only a few survived and only a few of those were deemed worthy of release. Monogram merged with Revell a few years later. Revell has passed through many holding companies since. Revell Germany broke off to form its own company, but in the last couple of years they got bought by the same holding company that owned Revell-Monogram in the US.

Keeping track of who owns what is not easy.

Synchronistic tangent, a friend in the UK sent me this today:

http://jetex.org/the-path-to-jetex.html

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 10:58:14 PM

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I am convinced that Gary Grigsby was a "Flattop" fan.

Gary Grisby was designing computer games when AH was the biggest name in the industry. I'm sure he sampled most AH games for ideas and I agree that Flattop probably influenced Uncommon Valor. I remember playing Flattop with a friend back in high school (1980s) and trying to think up ways to computerize the game. This was before the IBM XT was on the market.

I was thrilled when I found somebody did it. Then I ended up contributing to AE.

My father gave my AH's Luftwaffe for Christmas in 1971 when I was 5. My 15 year old sister said she would read the rules and teach them to me. After spending a couple of days with it she proclaimed I was just too young. I waited about 5 years with it sitting there then went and made up my own simplified rules and played those for several years. It was a gateway drug. I started collecting AH games in high school and ended up here.

AH was probably one of the best board game makers ever. They might still be around if they didn't get into a lawsuit with Microprose over the name Civilization. IMO AH's Civilization was a far better game engine, but most people have never heard of it. When I was in college I read an article in the General about the philosophy of making their games and I recognized it was very much an engineering process. They strove to balance accuracy with playability and they came up with some brilliant game engines.

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/9/2014 11:51:30 PM

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I got a game called Bismarck for Christmas, I think it was Avalon Hill too. It Played like AH's Midway.

warspite1

That was my first "serious" wargame. Excellent game.

Same for me. From there I went to "Jutland". I think my mom got a little annoyed when my brother and I turned the living room floor into the North Sea.

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/10/2014 3:28:57 AM

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This has been a good nostalgic thread.
I see I'm among my element

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/10/2014 9:39:43 AM

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I am convinced that Gary Grigsby was a "Flattop" fan.

Gary Grisby was designing computer games when AH was the biggest name in the industry. I'm sure he sampled most AH games for ideas and I agree that Flattop probably influenced Uncommon Valor. I remember playing Flattop with a friend back in high school (1980s) and trying to think up ways to computerize the game. This was before the IBM XT was on the market.

I was thrilled when I found somebody did it. Then I ended up contributing to AE.

My father gave my AH's Luftwaffe for Christmas in 1971 when I was 5. My 15 year old sister said she would read the rules and teach them to me. After spending a couple of days with it she proclaimed I was just too young. I waited about 5 years with it sitting there then went and made up my own simplified rules and played those for several years. It was a gateway drug. I started collecting AH games in high school and ended up here.

AH was probably one of the best board game makers ever. They might still be around if they didn't get into a lawsuit with Microprose over the name Civilization. IMO AH's Civilization was a far better game engine, but most people have never heard of it. When I was in college I read an article in the General about the philosophy of making their games and I recognized it was very much an engineering process. They strove to balance accuracy with playability and they came up with some brilliant game engines.

Bill

From a suspense and FOW point of view, I still feel that Gary's "Carrier Force" is the undisputed champion of the computer carrier centric wargames I played.
Still remember to this day....one particular frustrating rendition of "Coral Sea" where'd I had spent countless hours sweating as I tried to locate the enemy flattops and take em out. Got one small attack in early on....but then they vanished. I spent the rest of the scenario trying to find them, their menacing presence so influencing my decisions that I allowed the Port Morosby invasion force to saunter in and land.

The tedium and suspense of each turn with no "combat results" broken by the inverse (in an 8-bit Atari) flashing message "Japanese troops coming ashore at Port Morosby" shocking me out of my stupor. It was too late for me to do anything.

Turns out at the end of the scenario, my great menacing enemy was way NE of my position....both carriers burning uncontrollably and doomed! My small attack had apparently caught them with planes arming and it was Midway 2.0 Only prob was I never realized it thus the Fog of War resulted in me being Fletcher cautious and allowed the enemy invasion to succeed. I was so chargrined. 14 year old Admiral Nik was promoted to a deskjob after that.

Thanks for the memories Gary!

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/10/2014 12:15:05 PM

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Avalon Hill - the gateway drug for a lot of us. AFRIKA KORPS - the all important die roll for the attack on Tobruk.

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/10/2014 2:41:31 PM

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And that anxiety was only for a computer game...I'm sure you got a new understanding of Adm. Fletcher after that - he had a little more on his plate

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Turns out at the end of the scenario, my great menacing enemy was way NE of my position....both carriers burning uncontrollably and doomed! My small attack had apparently caught them with planes arming and it was Midway 2.0 Only prob was I never realized it thus the Fog of War resulted in me being Fletcher cautious and allowed the enemy invasion to succeed. I was so chargrined. 14 year old Admiral Nik was promoted to a deskjob after that.

Thanks for the memories Gary!

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RE: Absolutley OT: Growing Up - 8/10/2014 3:19:03 PM

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I am convinced that Gary Grigsby was a "Flattop" fan.

Gary Grisby was designing computer games when AH was the biggest name in the industry. I'm sure he sampled most AH games for ideas and I agree that Flattop probably influenced Uncommon Valor. I remember playing Flattop with a friend back in high school (1980s) and trying to think up ways to computerize the game. This was before the IBM XT was on the market.

I was thrilled when I found somebody did it. Then I ended up contributing to AE.

My father gave my AH's Luftwaffe for Christmas in 1971 when I was 5. My 15 year old sister said she would read the rules and teach them to me. After spending a couple of days with it she proclaimed I was just too young. I waited about 5 years with it sitting there then went and made up my own simplified rules and played those for several years. It was a gateway drug. I started collecting AH games in high school and ended up here.

AH was probably one of the best board game makers ever. They might still be around if they didn't get into a lawsuit with Microprose over the name Civilization. IMO AH's Civilization was a far better game engine, but most people have never heard of it. When I was in college I read an article in the General about the philosophy of making their games and I recognized it was very much an engineering process. They strove to balance accuracy with playability and they came up with some brilliant game engines.

Bill

Pretty much similar to my experiences Bill. I found an unopened AH Gettysburg. (the old one with square hexes) in my dad's closet and pulled it down and begin playing with it. Had to be not more than seven years old. I did not care for the rules. I just loved the map and fought my own battles in real time moving the pieces around. (The Rebs always won) That started my love affair with history. I started collecting the games, Tactics, Jutland, (I paid an outrageous $9 for Jutland) amassing quite a few. I played fantasy battles and then started reading the rules for solo play until I was 15 when my mother remarried and my new 15 year old step brother turned out to be a gamer too. First head to head play was Alexander and the rest is history. I still play an occasional game of Advanced Squad leader but that is about it for board gaming these days. It just broke my heart when AH went south. I only played their game up until them. Use to love going to Avaloncon. First real computer game was the old Atomic Games WWII series-which were actually very good. I remember my excitement when I sent my first turn by email. Talk about a quantum shift. Been mostly computer stuff since them.

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