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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 5/24/2019 8:44:23 AM   
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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 5/24/2019 1:06:55 PM   
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Britain is made up of Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, and England.... the blue in the Union Jack comes from the Scottish Saltire, the red crosses from N Ireland and England, and the white from all three flags.

Isn't Scotland talking about leaving the British Union completely because of Brexit, to keep a trading position with the EU? And the whole Ireland/Ulster border issue vis-à-vis Brexit could break that British connection too?

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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 5/24/2019 2:13:33 PM   
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Britain is made up of Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, and England.... the blue in the Union Jack comes from the Scottish Saltire, the red crosses from N Ireland and England, and the white from all three flags.

Isn't Scotland talking about leaving the British Union completely because of Brexit, to keep a trading position with the EU? And the whole Ireland/Ulster border issue vis-à-vis Brexit could break that British connection too?


Yes. There is a bit of a mess here. As in the US too much party politics and not enough compromise.

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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 5/24/2019 5:05:14 PM   
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Britain is made up of Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, and England.... the blue in the Union Jack comes from the Scottish Saltire, the red crosses from N Ireland and England, and the white from all three flags.

Isn't Scotland talking about leaving the British Union completely because of Brexit, to keep a trading position with the EU? And the whole Ireland/Ulster border issue vis-à-vis Brexit could break that British connection too?


Yes. There is a bit of a mess here. As in the US too much party politics and not enough compromise.

While I recognize that we are getting too close to the "no-politics" line , I can't help but ask (and thereby showing my ignorance) How much politics can be involved in a yes/no question? I'm assuming the deal making involves the question of How much can each side grab? It strikes me that this is more akin to a messy divorce than a real negotiation. Don't you folks have "no-fault divorce"?

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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 5/24/2019 7:18:48 PM   
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Britain is made up of Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, and England.... the blue in the Union Jack comes from the Scottish Saltire, the red crosses from N Ireland and England, and the white from all three flags.

Isn't Scotland talking about leaving the British Union completely because of Brexit, to keep a trading position with the EU? And the whole Ireland/Ulster border issue vis-à-vis Brexit could break that British connection too?


Yes. There is a bit of a mess here. As in the US too much party politics and not enough compromise.

While I recognize that we are getting too close to the "no-politics" line , I can't help but ask (and thereby showing my ignorance) How much politics can be involved in a yes/no question? I'm assuming the deal making involves the question of How much can each side grab? It strikes me that this is more akin to a messy divorce than a real negotiation. Don't you folks have "no-fault divorce"?

It's a safe bet that neither the politicians nor the people knew all the ramifications of voting to exit the EU. The Irish border issue is one that seems to have much greater significance than they considered before the vote. The terms of Brexit should have been negotiated with the EU before being presented to the people of Britain and voted on. I just hope the radicals in the spectrum don't decide this is a good time to further their agenda by violence. OTOH, there may just be more Scots Whiskey available at lower prices in North America if Europe restricts imports!





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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 5/26/2019 4:40:09 PM   
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Britain is made up of Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, and England.... the blue in the Union Jack comes from the Scottish Saltire, the red crosses from N Ireland and England, and the white from all three flags.

Isn't Scotland talking about leaving the British Union completely because of Brexit, to keep a trading position with the EU? And the whole Ireland/Ulster border issue vis-à-vis Brexit could break that British connection too?


Yes. There is a bit of a mess here. As in the US too much party politics and not enough compromise.

While I recognize that we are getting too close to the "no-politics" line , I can't help but ask (and thereby showing my ignorance) How much politics can be involved in a yes/no question? I'm assuming the deal making involves the question of How much can each side grab? It strikes me that this is more akin to a messy divorce than a real negotiation. Don't you folks have "no-fault divorce"?

It's a safe bet that neither the politicians nor the people knew all the ramifications of voting to exit the EU. The Irish border issue is one that seems to have much greater significance than they considered before the vote. The terms of Brexit should have been negotiated with the EU before being presented to the people of Britain and voted on. I just hope the radicals in the spectrum don't decide this is a good time to further their agenda by violence. OTOH, there may just be more Scots Whiskey available at lower prices in North America if Europe restricts imports!






We'll have to agree to disagree on your opinion. I think the people knew exactly what the ramifications were. I think the politicians saw their opportunities for graft and power going out the window. The problem with elected "leaders" is that they are not. They are elected "representatives". When they start thinking that they have "divine rights" you need to send them packing , and elect some new ones. Or you could adopt a American colonial era tradition and start gathering tar and feathers.

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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 5/26/2019 7:40:13 PM   
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It's a safe bet that neither the politicians nor the people knew all the ramifications of voting to exit the EU. The Irish border issue is one that seems to have much greater significance than they considered before the vote. The terms of Brexit should have been negotiated with the EU before being presented to the people of Britain and voted on. I just hope the radicals in the spectrum don't decide this is a good time to further their agenda by violence. OTOH, there may just be more Scots Whiskey available at lower prices in North America if Europe restricts imports!






We'll have to agree to disagree on your opinion. I think the people knew exactly what the ramifications were. I think the politicians saw their opportunities for graft and power going out the window. The problem with elected "leaders" is that they are not. They are elected "representatives". When they start thinking that they have "divine rights" you need to send them packing , and elect some new ones. Or you could adopt a American colonial era tradition and start gathering tar and feathers.


Point taken on the "entitlement" that too many people at all levels feel about their personal situation. Everyone is important and no one is essential. We must strive to be useful every day.

But I think we are not fair to our politicians. We reward them for showmanship (getting their name/image/advertising out there) but don't pay attention to the low key ones who are trying to serve the people by doing things. Since there is no action that will please all people and we complain loudly when we don't get our way, we punish the doers and reward the do-nothings who talk a lot while saying nothing.

Working with people who have different political philosophy is hard, but consensus and compromise can happen if the group focus on the job, not on getting noticed. We need to reward the doers better. That requires work on our part to know what is going on in detail, not just from talking points. There are people out there who want to serve the people if the system stops eating its young!

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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 5/27/2019 9:22:21 AM   
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Wikipedia says its because of some filter.

Tennessee whiskey - Wikipedia

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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 5/29/2019 7:52:23 PM   
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I think the people knew exactly what the ramifications were.


Not so sure about that, the day after the vote the most common question on Google in the UK was, 'What's Brexit'?

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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 5/29/2019 11:07:37 PM   
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Can you americans help me understand the difference between bourbon and Tennessee whiskey?

Wikipedia says its because of some filter.

There ain't none to speak of. "Tennessee Whiskey" is an appellation label. In order to be called "Tennessee Whiskey", it must be a straight bourbon whiskey produced within the bounds of the State of Tennessee, and follow the quality and production standards set by Tennessee Law. Basically, it's righteousness in materials and use of a charcoal filtration step. That's it. It's basically the result of a quality standard imposed on bourbons, by the State of Tennessee.

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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 5/30/2019 1:49:10 AM   
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Can you americans help me understand the difference between bourbon and Tennessee whiskey?

Wikipedia says its because of some filter.

There ain't none to speak of. "Tennessee Whiskey" is an appellation label. In order to be called "Tennessee Whiskey", it must be a straight bourbon whiskey produced within the bounds of the State of Tennessee, and follow the quality and production standards set by Tennessee Law. Basically, it's righteousness in materials and use of a charcoal filtration step. That's it. It's basically the result of a quality standard imposed on bourbons, by the State of Tennessee.


It used to be a near certainty that bourbon was distilled / aged in Bourbon county, Kentucky. Over the years, that label has been applied to other locales, to the sometimes shagrin of those in Bourbon county, that envisioned a mortal lock on the namesake of the whiskey. "Jack Daniels", a popular mid-range whiskey tastes a lot like bourbon, but is a 'Tennessee Sour Mash Whiskey'. It's all about the provenance. But a rose with any other name would smell the same, no?


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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 5/30/2019 3:53:01 AM   
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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 5/30/2019 10:54:15 AM   
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The best are the Bottled-In-Bond Whiskeys.

I like Rye and consider Bourbon to be a woman’s drink. I like Templeton Rye as my standard.

It turns out the best whiskey in the world is a Bourbon and costs $30.00 a bottle:
https://www.insidehook.com/article/food-and-drink/7-favorite-bottled-bond-whiskies

I recently tasted from a bottle of Old Grand Dad Bonded Bourbon my wife bought.Great stuff. Incredibly smooth.
You should give it a try.




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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 5/30/2019 5:48:31 PM   
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I’ve always felt the same after a night out with either Jack Daniel or Jim Beam


Yeah, I don't hang out with those two anymore. Too many bad experiences.


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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 5/30/2019 5:54:22 PM   
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It turns out the best whiskey in the world is a Bourbon and costs $30.00 a bottle:


If I can find it in my neck of the woods, I'll give it a try. Don't know about the best in the world, but it should be pretty good anyway.

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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 6/1/2019 7:05:02 PM   
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A batch of whisky is made for Scotland's King James IV

In the earliest known written mention of the spirit, Brother John Cor, a monk at a Scottish abbey, notes in his exchequer rolls that "aqua vitae VIII bolls of malt" are to be made by order of the King. Lindores Abbey will later be considered the birthplace of Scotch whisky.

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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 7/3/2019 1:35:20 PM   
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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 7/3/2019 3:38:51 PM   
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Yep,

Looks like 45,000 barrels lost.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-03/fire-at-jim-beam-bourbon-warehouse-threatens-40k-barrels-report-jxn9fkfk


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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 7/3/2019 7:55:56 PM   
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I've never heard of American single malt whiskey
https://www.insidehook.com/article/booze/american-single-malt-whiskey

But then I'm old and past my sell by date.

I'd like to try it but at $80 to $90 a bottle this is a little steep for me.



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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 7/3/2019 8:48:07 PM   
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Can you americans help me understand the difference between bourbon and Tennessee whiskey?

Wikipedia says its because of some filter.

Tennessee whiskey - Wikipedia

When someone asks you "Is Jack Daniels Bourbon"? the correct answer is "Yes and no." Bourbon must be at least 51% corn, must be made in the USA , and must be aged in a new , charred oak barrel. Jack Daniels does that. But it also filters in a particular manner. When Daniels originally requested that his product be considered "Bourbon" he was declined. He then got the Tennessee legislature to declare that all Tennessee whiskeys must follow his process to be labeled as "Tennessee Whiskey" , some say as a rebuke to Kentucky for refusing him.

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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 7/3/2019 8:51:59 PM   
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The best are the Bottled-In-Bond Whiskeys.

I like Rye and consider Bourbon to be a woman’s drink. I like Templeton Rye as my standard.

It turns out the best whiskey in the world is a Bourbon and costs $30.00 a bottle:
https://www.insidehook.com/article/food-and-drink/7-favorite-bottled-bond-whiskies

I recently tasted from a bottle of Old Grand Dad Bonded Bourbon my wife bought.Great stuff. Incredibly smooth.
You should give it a try.

I have both. But then again , my bourbon collection is just short of 100 (and my Scotch only about half od that). "The best Whiskey/whisky is the one you drink , and the best way to drink it is the way you drink it". All whiskey/whisky have one thing in common. The worst of them is better than no whisk(e)y.





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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 7/3/2019 8:53:06 PM   
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I’ve always felt the same after a night out with either Jack Daniel or Jim Beam

I've never gone out with either. But I've drunk a little of both.

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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 7/3/2019 8:57:22 PM   
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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 7/3/2019 9:01:01 PM   
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Hope you don't like Jim Beam.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/03/us/jim-beam-warehouse-fire-kentucky-trnd/index.html

Jim beam has a whole bunch of distilleries. Strategically scattered. They'll do fine. But it IS an excellent excuse to raise the MSRP.

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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 7/3/2019 10:42:24 PM   
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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 7/3/2019 11:13:08 PM   
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I've never heard of American single malt whiskey
https://www.insidehook.com/article/booze/american-single-malt-whiskey

But then I'm old and past my sell by date.

I'd like to try it but at $80 to $90 a bottle this is a little steep for me.


Yeah, you don't want to spend that much for an everyday shot or two, but at least once every 10 years you should splurge on a really good bottle (of whatever) to enjoy on special occasions (like when a WITP-AE player happens to pass by your area and stops in to say Hi!)

PS - Canoerebel - please advise the best sasparillas to try out!

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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 7/3/2019 11:15:00 PM   
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I'd like to try it but at $80 to $90 a bottle this is a little steep for me.


I should look into this, my import is up to $135 a fifth. Which does curtail my intake, so maybe not?

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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 7/3/2019 11:15:25 PM   
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Maybe Jack Daniels hit them with some Tennessee White Lightning.

I was thinking maybe someone was trying to create a shortage that Scotch Whiskey could fill. Has anyone heard from Warspite1 lately?

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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 7/4/2019 12:28:46 AM   
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Maybe Jack Daniels hit them with some Tennessee White Lightning.



I've had Tennessee "white lightning". Forced on me by the farmer whose still we stumbled on while hiking. And he was casually holding a shot gun. I decided (and the three guts I was with) that alcohol poisoning was less of a risk than "lead poisoning" .

Since then I've had "white dog" from at least 5 different modern distilleries. And I can testify that they are definitely NOT the same thing.

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RE: OT: Whisky/Whiskey Drinkers - what are your favorites? - 7/12/2019 2:20:32 PM   
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