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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/12/2014 4:03:25 AM

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February 4, 1941
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Despite my expectations, it appears the supposed KB didn't move further north to wreak havoc on my poor innocent boats bobbing in the Bay of Bengal. Severe storms blanket the region and I'm getting only poor sighting information from my search planes. But in the hex where the supposed KB was yesterday has been identified a small TF. But as nothing is reported further north and no carrier air attacks hit my ships in the BoB, I'm supposing the supposed KB has parked itself near Andaman Island for now.

Coming up from the South is what is identified as a 10-ship TF, including 8 DDs/CLs and only two xAPs. I'm supposing this is a sizable invasion TF moving toward Burma or India.

To my untutored mind, it looks like India is Q-Ball's next big target. Weeks ago, I believe, I got intel of a Japanese division preparing for Karachi. And now the intel I have in recent days includes:
6/2nd Division is planning for an attack on Chittagong.

Also according to my intel, this 2nd Division...which seems to be an elite unit...has been loading at Singapore in recent days. A number of units moved to Singapore after the fall of that city, units that might be moving to India along with the 2nd Division. The TF moving north on the map below likely isn't one that includes the 2nd division as I'm guessing the 2nd division couldn't have moved so far so fast. So it seems lots of stuff might be moving to Burma/India.

India is not at all prepared for an invasion. Luckily, though, the timing might be pretty good for me. If an Indian invasion had came after a couple of weeks more, I might have moved some of the Aussie LCUs soon to appear in Aden down to Oz. But now those Aussies will be getting used to the taste of cumin instead.

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/13/2014 5:02:44 PM

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The paradrop in Akyab tells me the Japanese are planning a move in eastern India. At this point, however, there is not much you can do to stop an invasion there as most of it is 1x terrain. As most Allied players will tell you your priority should be in guarding the main bases of Karachi and Bombay so that you can safely bring in reinforcements. So really patience and willingness to retreat will be the key to limiting the impact of a Japanese invasion.

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/14/2014 4:47:08 PM

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The paradrop in Akyab tells me the Japanese are planning a move in eastern India. At this point, however, there is not much you can do to stop an invasion there as most of it is 1x terrain. As most Allied players will tell you your priority should be in guarding the main bases of Karachi and Bombay so that you can safely bring in reinforcements. So really patience and willingness to retreat will be the key to limiting the impact of a Japanese invasion.

I just wish Japan's move up toward India/northern Burma didn't happen for a couple of more weeks. I have so little in India.

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/14/2014 5:00:43 PM

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February 5 and 6, 1942
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INDIA: A Japanese carrier TF popped up off Ceylon on Feb 5 and remained there Feb 6. The direct harm (so far) has been relatively minor: sunk were 2 xAK, 6 xAKL, 3 AMc, 1 AM, and 1 PC. The indirect harm is that I�m not able to get to any SCTFs near the Japanese transport/invasion TFs moving up to Burma and/or India. I�ve lost track of most of these TFs as my search planes have been focusing on locating the carrier TF.

I just don�t have much in India. The 6th Aussie Division is moving to Calcutta but the 7th Aussie Division won�t even start to arrive in Aden for 5 days. I have other LCUs moving toward India but they won�t arrive in the immediate future.

My primary goal will be to continue building up Karachi and Bombay. But, more immediately and closer to the action, I�ll (1) build a defense for Calcutta and (2) protect the RR linking Ledo and the Imphal region with the rest of India.

Despite my desire to defend along the India-Burma border I don�t see how I can accomplish this given what Q-Ball seems to be bringing to attack Chittagong (at minimum an elite division already loaded on transports). So the units now fleeing Burma will try to get onto the Indian RR network and then into safer parts of that country. I�ll need to protect the RR lines allowing this for a number of weeks.

LCUs are at, or will soon be at the RR bases marked with squares below. The base marked with a red square seems pretty important as it is the single RR link between the Assam region and the rest of India.

The defense of Calcutta will include the city itself but also the two bases (in jungle) marked with red circles. I�ll try to defend those two bases to not only allow stuff to come in, but also to make it easier to exit Calcutta if things look bad. Of course, I�d like to keep Calcutta but it might turn out my main goal will be to defend that city mostly to delay possible attacks on Bombay and Karachi. But I know that if I stay too long in Calcutta, my LCUs there might get trapped in the city when they should really be defending the even-more-important Bombay and Karachi.

My bombing of the airbase (now at 52 damage) at Akyab, which was taken by paradrop a week or so ago, is about to end. Japanese units have taken Prome and I fear that enemy fighters will soon be placed on very LRCAP over Akyab. I�ll try a couple of days of �imprecise� nighttime bombing by B-17s to see if, by any miracle, they score a couple of hits on the airbase. I�m concerned that Akyab can be used both for 2E bombers and for transports delivering paradrops on bases located on RR lines.

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/14/2014 5:19:22 PM

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Be careful of Japanese para drops behind Calcutta designed to cut off your retreat. Guarding the India/Burma border isn't going to do much as you surmised the most likely attack route is an amphibious landing.

If you are sending units from Karachi or Bombay to defend Calcutta its just going to make further Japanese attacks on those cities more likely to succeed even if they are delayed. Frankly I don't like your chances in defending the Calcutta-Chittagong in February 1942. If this were April or May it would be a different story but Indian units are not that strong. Be sure to keep that jungle hex NW of Calcutta open in order to facilitate your retreat that direction.

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/14/2014 5:25:21 PM

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You cannot do everything in India. You have to choose what to defend and what to allow the Japanese to take. Some of that depends upon him but if he is going for AV then Bombay and Karachi are the real prizes.

Bombay can be defended by a well dug in reasonably well trained division. Maybe 2 of them.

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/14/2014 6:54:21 PM

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Thanks for the advice, Sangeli and Wargmr. I guess I'll make a show of defending Calcutta but then will, with great dignity, run way screaming to Bombay/Karachi.

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/15/2014 10:17:37 AM

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One thing to consider (which happened to me as the japs in my recent game with obvert) is that, if you force him to really fight for Calcutta, you may lose a division or two, but, with a real fight, the industry may be completely destroyed.
With a 100% destroyed Calcutta, the whole Japanese adventure in India will become worthless and expensive..
In this light, the loss of a couple of divisions may be a necessary price to be paid for a greater strategical goal

... not an easy choice

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/15/2014 5:52:49 PM

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quote:

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One thing to consider (which happened to me as the japs in my recent game with obvert) is that, if you force him to really fight for Calcutta, you may lose a division or two, but, with a real fight, the industry may be completely destroyed.
With a 100% destroyed Calcutta, the whole Japanese adventure in India will become worthless and expensive..
In this light, the loss of a couple of divisions may be a necessary price to be paid for a greater strategical goal

... not an easy choice

Well that is based off the assumption the Japanese will be unable to capitalize on the situation in ways you were unable to do against your opponent. And by that I mean to capture the REAL prizes of India which are Karachi and Bombay. The way I see it, losing divisions at Calcutta will have a significant effect on the ability to defend those two bases later on should it come to that. Also its worth noting that Calcutta (or any base) will see its heavy industry automatically cut in half every time it switches hands.

If you want to really destroy the industry put a bunch of engineers in the city as engineers will cause extra damage even before it is captured. So perhaps the most economical strategy is defend Calcutta against one Japanese attack with a bunch of engineers present and a decent fort then pull out before the Japanese can break down the fort an smash your defenders.

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/15/2014 8:16:19 PM

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quote:

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quote:

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One thing to consider (which happened to me as the japs in my recent game with obvert) is that, if you force him to really fight for Calcutta, you may lose a division or two, but, with a real fight, the industry may be completely destroyed.
With a 100% destroyed Calcutta, the whole Japanese adventure in India will become worthless and expensive..
In this light, the loss of a couple of divisions may be a necessary price to be paid for a greater strategical goal

... not an easy choice

Well that is based off the assumption the Japanese will be unable to capitalize on the situation in ways you were unable to do against your opponent. And by that I mean to capture the REAL prizes of India which are Karachi and Bombay. The way I see it, losing divisions at Calcutta will have a significant effect on the ability to defend those two bases later on should it come to that. Also its worth noting that Calcutta (or any base) will see its heavy industry automatically cut in half every time it switches hands.

If you want to really destroy the industry put a bunch of engineers in the city as engineers will cause extra damage even before it is captured. So perhaps the most economical strategy is defend Calcutta against one Japanese attack with a bunch of engineers present and a decent fort then pull out before the Japanese can break down the fort an smash your defenders.

One situation that differs from your advice - if one side totally abandons a base with industry before the other side moves in and attacks, the base will be taken by "occupation" and all industry will be intact. In one of my games I was the proud owner of several Japanese aircraft factories,

but couldn't get them to actually produce any aircraft for me.

In fact, I had no way to tell but they may have been building aircraft into the IJA pools while I was trying to get them to produce for me!

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/15/2014 11:40:27 PM

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Thanks for your suggestions GreyJoy, Sangeli, and BBfanboy.

Main problem: my level of experience not better than some of the Indian Divisions I need to work with! Second problem: it is so early in the war I'm still awaiting the arrival in India (and Aden) of good units. I have one Aussie Division at Calcutta now (the 17th)...and about 1000 AV (but much of it weak AV)...and then the schedule of arrivals is:

5 days at Aden: Aussie 7th Div
20 days at Bangalore: Indian 20th Div
20 days 2 Indian Bdes at Lahore and Madras
50 days at Madras: Indian 26th Div
50 days at Karachi: British 70th Div

Only the first and last are now serious fighting units.

Other LCUs might be able to get to India too.

I guess the best plan is to set up a good defense of Calcutta, but plan to bail out at the first sign of "defortification." Forts are now at 3.5. An exit strategy will be a priority. I have 3 engineers units (including two good construction Bns) building up the city and I guess they can also tear it down if need be.

Of course, who know what Q-Ball has in mind!

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/16/2014 7:16:02 AM

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Don't despair over the weak Indian units. If you are getting supply to India they will begin filling out steadily and morale will go up accordingly.
Experience will grow a little while building things or resting/training, or even marching. Experience takes a big jump after first combat.

Keep your game plan and create a mobile force to stop his moves or to hit him in the pants while he is looking elsewhere.
You should get tanks to India ahead of the big IDs. The Japanese tanks can't stand up to allied tanks from the Stuart on up, and they have limited anti-armour capacity.
Tanks move fast to get where you need them and they can handle being bombed fairly well.

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/16/2014 1:35:55 PM

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Don't despair over the weak Indian units. If you are getting supply to India they will begin filling out steadily and morale will go up accordingly.
Experience will grow a little while building things or resting/training, or even marching. Experience takes a big jump after first combat.

Keep your game plan and create a mobile force to stop his moves or to hit him in the pants while he is looking elsewhere.
You should get tanks to India ahead of the big IDs. The Japanese tanks can't stand up to allied tanks from the Stuart on up, and they have limited anti-armour capacity.
Tanks move fast to get where you need them and they can handle being bombed fairly well.

Luckily some time ago I sent two USMC tank battalions (one with M2s and the other with Stuarts) toward Cape Town. I hope they arrive in time to make a difference.

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/16/2014 2:03:42 PM

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Q-Ball says, yes, he'll be landing in India. His carriers are now 9 hexes from Calcutta but I have no recent sightings of transports headed toward India. I assume they are lurking in the shadows, filled with Japanese soldiers reading intently their Michelin Guides to Greater Calcutta.

And recently I read:
90th Infantry Regiment is planning for an attack on Socotra.

The 63rd Indian Brigade is being sent to reinforce Socotra as a temporary stop-gap measure...or maybe as what will end up defending the island. It's not like I have much I can send anywhere in India! I also sent a small SCTF to the island to fight off any landing.

Additionally, he's been reconning Comilla which is the base on the RR just above Chittagong. I assume this is in preparation for a possible paradrop to cut off my (few) troops at Chittagong. It's the one RR base in the area not now occupied by Allied troops, but some are now on their way there.

Below indicates Japan's expansion as of February 9, 1942.

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/16/2014 2:59:56 PM

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Q-Ball says, yes, he'll be landing in India. His carriers are now 9 hexes from Calcutta but I have no recent sightings of transports headed toward India. I assume they are lurking in the shadows, filled with Japanese soldiers reading intently their Michelin Guides to Greater Calcutta.

And recently I read:
90th Infantry Regiment is planning for an attack on Socotra.

The 63rd Indian Brigade is being sent to reinforce Socotra as a temporary stop-gap measure...or maybe as what will end up defending the island. It's not like I have much I can send anywhere in India! I also sent a small SCTF to the island to fight off any landing.

Additionally, he's been reconning Comilla which is the base on the RR just above Chittagong. I assume this is in preparation for a possible paradrop to cut off my (few) troops at Chittagong. It's the one RR base in the area not now occupied by Allied troops, but some are now on their way there.

Below indicates Japan's expansion as of February 9, 1942.

The best thing you can do is to fall back NOW to Bombay and Karachi. You'll not really be able to defend Calcutta, and you'll risk losing a pile of troops there with the only caveat being that there will be a chance the industry will be destroyed, maybe. Keep a token garrison there and start digging in Bombay and Karachi.

Begin sending US air forces and army unit through Cape Town to get them ready to go to India if you even get a chance without the KB closing down the IO.

Get out of Madras, Cochin, Chittagong and everywhere below the line of death that you are able to abandon. Indian troops are weak and inexperienced and Japan can double your numbers right now at least. Your air force sucks and your navy has no chance agains the KB. You can't defend Socotra or anywhere else if the KB arrives, so cancel that plan right away. If he's planning for Socotra then he's going all-in. He wants it all.

Read a few AARs on India being attacked, like Mr Kane vs GreyJoy. Read GreyJoy's current one vs me. Don't worry about mine as I've made the mistakes you don't have to make if you act now and pull back as much as possible.

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/16/2014 3:16:05 PM

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I'd recommend leaving enough in Calcutta to ensure that the industry gets trashed when he takes it.....

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/16/2014 3:55:09 PM

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Read QBall's AAR versus Canoerebel. The game fizzled out, but QBall mentions a lot of what he did wrong and it may give you a heads up on what may be coming your way. IF he's going all in then I believe Ceylon, Socotra and Karachi will be taken before Bombay or Calcutta. The key to taking all of India is preventing any Allied reinforcements arriving via Karachi. As long as you don't lose units fighting too far forward, as obvert warns, you will be in for one heck of a fight. Fun times!

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/16/2014 4:49:56 PM

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Yeah - my earlier advice was predicated on the idea that it would be another four months or so before he went for India.
If he is going all in right now before you have filled out units or brought much reinforcement, you do need to concentrate near Karachi and Bombay.
If you are using the extended map there is yet another base on the north map edge to defend ...

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/16/2014 5:13:20 PM

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Yeah - my earlier advice was predicated on the idea that it would be another four months or so before he went for India.

Actually now that I think about it, I believe QBall said he'd need to be on Ceylon before April and that he wasted too much time capturing it instead of landing on India proper. Hard to say what QBall will do, but if he is going to go for India, I think he'll land at Karachi as soon as possible. Just my opinion based on what I've read about his operations in India from his previous AAR.

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/16/2014 5:33:16 PM

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I tend to send both the 40th & 41st American Divisions to Cape Town right away (or when they become available). They have to await PPs to leave CT, but they take over 30 days to get to CT. Some AA, a few DB groups, and eventually a few Marine CD head that way along with 51st FG (I exchange some of the old P25/36s to free up P-38s to send over).

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/16/2014 7:32:59 PM

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Yep, there are three principal Japanese moves in India:

1) Take Ceylon as an outpost

2) Take eastern India to protect Burma and seize the Calcutta region industry

3) The whole enchilada.

If Q-Ball is going for option 3, he will take Diego Garcia and Socotra before a massive landing designed to take Karachi. It that is his aim (and you must assume it is as the threat is existential whereas the other two choices are not), you need to haul posterior back to Karachi.

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/16/2014 8:30:53 PM

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Yep, there are three principal Japanese moves in India:

1) Take Ceylon as an outpost

2) Take eastern India to protect Burma and seize the Calcutta region industry

3) The whole enchilada.

If Q-Ball is going for option 3, he will take Diego Garcia and Socotra before a massive landing designed to take Karachi. It that is his aim (and you must assume it is as the threat is existential whereas the other two choices are not), you need to haul posterior back to Karachi.

Well I don't think Diego Garcia is as important as people claim. It doesn't start with any air base at all and it only covers the convoys from Cape Town while most of the LCUs arrive at Aden. On the other hand, Socotra starts with a level 2 air base so it's got a decent head start and it blocks the Aden route. And even then I don't think you can predict the order of Socotra vs. Karachi. Could easily go Karachi then Socotra as the KB could refuel in Karachi after it's taken. Long story short, assume the Japanese are going to land at Karachi if you see the KB disappear after the landing in eastern India.

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/16/2014 9:00:36 PM

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Thank you for all your wise counsel. Even for any unwise counsel too!

All rolling stock in India is converging on Calcutta to transport the majority of LCUs now camped in that city to Karachi and Bombay.

As I feared, a paratroopers took Comilla, cutting off the retreat of units in Chittagong. I had a unit railing into Comilla but it just missed arriving in time. Nothing much is at Chittagong, however, so this won't hurt too much.

The invasion of India didn't start off on a bang, as a Japanese amphib TF trying to land at Chittagong was apparently scared off by a couple of AMcs! The TF failed to unload its soldiers and seems to have moved a couple of hexes away. This will henceforth be known as "The Battle of Chittagong Bay." But then a couple of Japanese capital ships cleared up any confusion as to who controls the seas.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Chittagong at 55,41, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
SC Ch 9
SC Ch 15
xAK Teiyo Maru
xAK Koei Maru
xAK Kinkai Maru
xAK Ume Maru
xAK Anzan Maru

Allied Ships
AMc Patna
AMc Medusa

Reduced sighting due to 28% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 28% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Both Task Forces evade combat

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Chittagong at 55,41, Range 19,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu
CL Nagara
DD Yukikaze
DD Maikaze
DD Shirakumo
DD Shirayuki

Allied Ships
AMc Patna, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AMc Medusa, Shell hits 6, and is sunk

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/16/2014 9:19:55 PM

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I like when the AI does stuff like this...adds so much to the flavor of the game. Uncertainty! Gotta love it.

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/17/2014 3:47:07 AM

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February 11, 1942
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Top News!

Headline: Japanese land at Chittagong.
Numerous Japanese units landed at Chittagong yesterday after a horrendous bombardment by Japanese battleships. Although Allied commanders expressed confidence this incursion onto Indian soil was not a major cause for concern, British and Indian troops were seen packing up to leave Calcutta. Intelligence reports the following enemy units are now on Indian soil:

1st Tank Regiment
15th Ind Engineer Regiment
2nd Division
14th Tank Regiment
148th Infantry Regiment
5th Division
1st RF Gun Battalion
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
25th Army
18th JAAF Base Force

Headline: Plucky Allied Ships Raid Japanese-Held Rangoon! Smoke Enshrouds Enemy Ships!

Two small Allied ships, the KV Thyme and the PG Clive, snuck into Rangoon Harbor and skillfully shelled an enemy transport task force unloading in port. Reports are that heavy fires were seen on a Japanese PB and xAK. Three other enemy ships were damaged by the accurate shelling of the two ships. Unfortunately, the Clive received a number of shell hits in return that imperil her survival. The ship is steaming back to friendly waters. The brave crew of the KV Thyme has gone off hunting Japanese ships elsewhere.

Headline: Lanchow Threatened. City Prepares For the Worst!

The citizens of the Chinese city of Lanchow are grimly preparing for an attack that some say might come in less than two weeks. The valiant 81st Chinese Corp has been slowing the advance of a tank unit and what appears to be a full division of Japanese infantry trying to force its way down a long desert road coming from Paotow. Officials in Chungking, the site of the Chinese army HQ, have promised that spirited and highly trained Chinese troops marching up from Tienshui would be more than a match for the Japanese army now lumbering towards Lanchow.

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Hilarious headline approach. And the Battle of Chittagong Bay! Love it.

Regarding the India discussion, I agree that Socotra is far more important than Diego, but JFBs planning to go for Karachi usually take Diego all the same, so watch for that as a sign Q is going for the whole enchilada. He may yet limit himself to the NE India conquest.

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IMHO, once the Japs land in eastern India, a succesfull conquest of Karachi/Bombay is already out of question.

Now that, with the extended map, there are many more bases between Scoodra and Karachi and in the area around Karachi, I think there is no way a Japanese player can conquer the whole enchilada.

Based on my experiences, Karachi and/or Bombay can be conquered ONLY (if ever) the Japanese player goes bold and lands immediately there, avoiding eastern India.

By the time the jap army from Calcutta gets to Bombay and develops a decent AF at Poona, Bombay is already a fortress.

Panjack: don't panic (not that you aren't). Let the japs have the whole lot and dig and place a couple of good divisions both at Bombay and Karachi. Don't waste your air force now. Preserve and build those two bases into fortresses. I don't really think QBall is going for the whole enchilada. Remember that he already got a bloody nose against Canoerebel in India... he knows now the limits of a Japanese all-in strategy

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IMHO, once the Japs land in eastern India, a succesfull conquest of Karachi/Bombay is already out of question.

After seeing what QBall landed at Chittagong I agree with GreyJoy's assessment. I don't believe QBall is going all out for India now. I'd still secure Karachi and Bombay, but now you can trade space for time and commit your air units on your terms.

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I agree with you both, but if I was Panjack I'd still secure Karachi/Bombay with my best troops and planes just in case. Calcutta should get a holding force that is heavy on engineers so that when Q takes is you maximize industry damage.

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RE: Fools Rush In Where Angels Fear To Tread: Panjack (... - 10/18/2014 4:17:31 AM

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Again, thanks for the insights.

The most recent turn (Feb 8, 1942) gave me:
Imperial Guards Division is planning for an attack on Bombay.

Previously I got:
11th Division is planning for an attack on Karachi.
90th Infantry Regiment is planning for an attack on Socotra.

The last seems real (and not just to fake me out): the 90th infantry Regiment is an elite unit that must be bought out with PP. Intel also says that in early January the 90th Regiment was at Fusan and then on 1/20/1942 the 90th Regiment was moving to Cam Ranh Bay. So the 90th has been bought out and was moving the right direction to attack Socotra.

Seems kinda wasteful to pay for the unit and then use it just to send me false signals. So I'm guessing I should expect an attack on Socotra, which suggests he's after India.

The KB (or what I supposed was the KB) disappeared a couple of turns ago but in the most recent turn a small ship near Calcutta was sighted by a Val. So at least one carrier still remains around Calcutta. However, after sinking a couple of ships around Ceylon a number of days ago, the carriers have NOT been attacking either land or sea targets despite such targets being available. Perhaps Q-Ball is holding carrier planes back for mischief elsewhere in India. More circumstantial evidence.

But I'm new at this stuff. Does the above seem to suggest the whole enchilada despite his current move at Chittagong?

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