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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/20/2014 9:02:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		In the Italian Coast the CW get the jump on the Regia Marina. The Italians have no CVs and no air cover, so the damage is entirely one way (though they do have ~90 naval factors to the CW ~60). The CW attempts to destroy the Littorio but doesn't manage it.

Neither side finds each other again.





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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/20/2014 9:06:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		In the Eastern Med the Sparviero's tear up the CW cruisers guarding the convoy though... yeah, air cover is important I guess!






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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/20/2014 10:42:12 PM   
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The Chinese try and bomb Yamamoto, get him disorged and stuck out in an exposed position. Nobody wants to be disorganised and stuck in an exposed position after all... Despite Kittyhawk support though, the bomber is seen off by what tiny Japanese airfarce exists in China.






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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/20/2014 10:54:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Attacks are fairly conservative. There are a number of weakish points in the Eastern Front but the Soviets can't manage more than about +5 to the roll. They decide not to risk that,aside from Yeremenko's guys in the Pripet Marshes, who are next to Manstein. Loss of Manstein in exchange for a guy more or less cut off seems like a good exchange so they go for it (forest hex too so the Luftwaffe can't help unduly).

In China the Allies are a bit more aggressive. Chiang goes for Yamamoto, trying to destroy him, but the Japanese choose blitzkrieg and Yamamoto is made to retreat. I shoulda done Mao's attack first, major error. :(







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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/20/2014 10:58:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Especially given Mao's boys were successful in wiping out the Japanese defenders, another INF lost for Japan, not good...






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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/20/2014 11:02:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Von Manstein lives though, with a bit of help from the Luftwaffe. Some of the Russians do not.






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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/20/2014 11:21:21 PM   
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As the last bit of Allied activity, some P38s arrive in the United Kingdom, and the Russians adjust the Eastern Front a bit, bringing up some aircraft to cover Smolensk better.

Then it's the Axis go. Italy takes a combined, Germany and Japan both land.

No naval combat, though Italy adds Pola to its fleet (forgot about Pola, she was in Sicily).

There's a single ground strike on the southern Eastern Front, which goes very well for the Luftwaffe and quite possibly opens up the chance of a breakthrough despite the large number of Soviet troops there.






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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/20/2014 11:42:03 PM   
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The Italians rail Balbo to the front, the Germans rail in some reinforcements including Dora the Big Gun, who goes to Bessarabia! Japanese forces approach Batavia and rush to the front in China, while a couple of ground units debark from the fleets off shore.

The Japanese decline to launch any attacks, the Germans have a couple of blitzes planned against badly disorged units.








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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/20/2014 11:47:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		There's some air to air fighting as the Soviets commit bombers, even without fighter escort. Over Smolensk a Shturmovik is shot down by a Bf110. In the south though neither side has any fighters in range and so both airforces can contribute unmolested.

Near Smolensk the Germans roll well and smash their way over the Dnieper, driving all before them!






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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/21/2014 12:00:11 AM   
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After the successful German attacks, things are looking a bit more desperate for the Russians both north and south of the Pripet Marshes... only a few Germans have been disorged atm and the Luftwaffe still has a fair bit of firepower available to it as well. Pondering the next Soviet move, might be time for a general retreat back to the next defensive position. There is no firebrigade available this time to attack the German bridgeheads which did a good job of holding them up last turn, the reserves were committed to the front line.

It's late in the year, but Moscow isn't all that far, the Russians really want General Winter to show up!






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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/21/2014 12:15:25 AM   
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US/CW take combineds. The CW needs to supply the Eastern Med again after the Sparvieros took out the convoy there, they also need to start pulling out of Libya if at all possible. Land for China/Russia ofc.

The US fleet surprises the IJN in the Coral Sea, and there's another air battle as the carriers have at it. The IJN handle the American bombers (which are few in number) almost straight away, but then over a series of rounds the Japanese air takes heavy losses. Only a single Japanese bomber makes it through the CAP - only to be destroyed by AA fire.

The Japanese carrier force is basically out of action at this point...






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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/21/2014 12:20:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Meanwhile in the Mediterranean the CW blow a bit more of the Regia Marina away with their CVs... A single 1 point value carrier air is lost to enemy AA fire.




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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/21/2014 12:28:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Both sides stick around. Then the italians get the chance they are looking for! and surprise the CW. They force a surface combat - which turns out to be super bloody for both. Looks like the carrier combat has blunted the Italian battleship force enough to let the CW fight back on equal terms even here.

On the CW side, Coventry, Cumberland and Carlisle are all sunk, Curlew is damaged (guess I didn't like the letter C. :P). On the Italian side, Giulio Cesare rolled badly and is sunk, and so are the cruisers Trento and Giussano.

The Italians now have a naval factor total lower than the Commonwealth, and no carriers. So the CW has a decisive advantage now, not even luck can help Mussolini out. The Italian fleet therefore aborts back to La Spezia.

That includes the convoys, so Italy is going to take a production hit now.

On the other hand the Allies foolishly sent an AMPH and a TRS without escort in the eastern med, trying to move units out under the nose of the Sparvieros. Bad idea, as the AMPH is sunk along with a MOT inside it by the Italians.

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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/21/2014 12:33:09 AM   
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The Luftwaffe was moved up to the front en masse by the Germans. Ploesti was left undefended therefore and the Soviets still have one strat bomber. They launch a daylight raid... and it turns out to be absolutely devastating. I didn't realise a single bomber could even be that devastating, the loss of 3 oil is going to be very serious in the next turn.

Noobery happens on both sides in this game.








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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/21/2014 12:43:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Soviets then try to shift things around a bit to a more defensive position... the INF is too slow to redeploy quick enough really, and disorged units make it hard too as that essentially forces the Russians into a defence somewhere.

On the southern front they try to contain the spearhead, the Germans have a fair few disorged in the area too so they might get away with it... I stress might.






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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/21/2014 1:04:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		After some pondering, Koniev on the southern front does a bit of reorging. Has to be now after all... if ever.


Jul/Aug 1942 Axis #5

Everybody takes a land action. The Allies rule the seas... for now.

Two Stukas make an attack - an old I-16 moved up at the end of the last impulse shoots one down, the fighters too far for an attacker intercept. The Luftwaffe has a preponderance of single seaters but the long range Bf110s have their place alright...

The Stuka that makes it through though scores 2 out of 2 hits near Smolensk, again.

And then, some movement and a large number of land attacks...






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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/21/2014 1:08:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		A bad roll. Pskov falls, but the Germans take very heavy casualties in so doing, so thats really a Russian victory IMO.






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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/21/2014 1:13:39 AM   
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A bad roll. Pskov falls, but the Germans take very heavy casualties in so doing, so thats really a Russian victory IMO.


Why did Pskov fall? The Russians lost one of two units, and it is an assault, so they should have held the hex.


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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/21/2014 1:20:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Similar tale at Smolensk... the city falls but the Germans are given pause.

Jeez Stalingrad seems a long way away, I guess the Germans aren't doing so good! though I was eying Moscow mostly...






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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/21/2014 1:21:10 AM   
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A bad roll. Pskov falls, but the Germans take very heavy casualties in so doing, so thats really a Russian victory IMO.


Why did Pskov fall? The Russians lost one of two units, and it is an assault, so they should have held the hex.



You're right. It didn't fall! they didn't even get that...

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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/21/2014 1:25:26 AM   
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At the southern end by the Black Sea the Russians are being rolled up at Stalino, as they were forced to move a fair bit of their force to the north to contain that bridgehead over the Dnieper. It is contained, just about, but maybe the price was too high.

In the north, Smolensk just fell, and the Germans are across in force, but have quite a lot of disorganised units at this point. On the other hand the Russians have been thinned out quite a lot too and Moscow is close. If it turns out to be a long turn, the Germans could still make a lot of progress here I think.

Pskov, well that was a disaster. Hitler bitches at his generals and asks why they even attacked? Should've just left it masked, and sent as much east as possible. That MOT stack by Pskov will do just that. Yeremenko in the Pripet Marshes is tying up an undue amount of force as well.






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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/21/2014 1:39:45 AM   
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Russia wants the turn to end, badly. but if all pass its only 20%. Not worth that risk.

US takes a combined, CW a combined, China passes, Russia land. China and the US are running low on things to do at this point, the CW has some port striking planned.

The CW carriers send the lot against La Spezia. There's a lucky roll on the AA fire though, 9 points, the Gladiator is shot down and the bombers lose 4 factors. The CW ends up sinking a TRS as the high point. Italy no longer has any sealift at all.

All the carrier using nations seem super low on carrier air no matter how many pilots and carrier air I try and build! Them getting shot down all the time doesn't help at all...










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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/21/2014 8:41:53 AM   
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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/23/2014 10:57:06 PM   
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All Axis powers take a land.
Italy adjusts a bit, not much else.
Germany examines the Eastern Front. There is an opportunity to be had at Smolensk, and a +8 to take out Yeremenko which is worth it... aside from that it's advance to contact stuff.

It's a 10. The Soviets lose a division, the Germans achieve a breakthrough, which they exploit.







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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/23/2014 10:59:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		In the East looks like there has been serious overextension by the ChiComs. An exposed Mao gets taken out by the reinforcements Japan has been dropping on the coast over the course of the turn. Mao's HQ support had a cost after all...

This will give Japan much needed breathing room.




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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/23/2014 11:17:27 PM   
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... Turn doesn't end on a 9. Weather is still fine where it matters.

Looking like the Axis have an opportunity here alright.

Some movement, 4 attacks this round... Two by Smolensk, one by Kharkov, one more in the Far East as Japan's offensive continues.






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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/23/2014 11:24:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Germans are moderately successful wherever they attacked. At Smolensk they smash through the Russians but half the attackers are disorganised, which means any additional turns will be a bit weaker. In the south progress is better still, a breakthrough without any sort of loss. Kharkov and Stalino are now in dire danger. Germany would love another impulse.

In the Far East Japan bounces off the Chinese. Both sides lose out (The Japanese a MIL, the Chinese after deliberation an ART) but the disorganised attackers mean that theatre is now done for the turn.




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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/23/2014 11:30:40 PM   
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The turn doesn't end when the Axis are done.

The Allies all pass. 60% chance. The turn ends! The Russians, who suffered a lot of shattered units, are relieved.

Lots of destroyed stuff. The Russians come off worse than the Germans but the Germans suffered as well. In terms of attrition it looks like even though the USA quit the field they definitely hurt the Japanese. There are 2 damaged US cruisers and 3 damaged Japanese cruisers on top so yes, the US really did win that one though it didn't feel like a win at the time.






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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/23/2014 11:32:58 PM   
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Also, 65 BPs for the USA this turn. Jeeeeeeez. The Axis better hurry up!

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RE: WiF - The Second Half - 9/24/2014 12:01:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		The production screen shows that the Soviet/German balance of power has tipped pretty hard in the Soviet favour when new stuff arriving is considered...

So, builds this turn

Germany
1 SYNTH (bit late I know. )
FTR-3
2 x LND-2
2 x MECH
1 MECH DIV
2 INF
1 Pilot

Italy
1 pilot
2 carrier air
1 GARR
1 INF

Japan
1 Pilot
2 carrier air 0
1 carrier air 1
Inf-HQ
2 INF
1 battleship
1 sub construction

China
1 INF-HQ (need Mao back!)
1 INF

Commonwealth (Lack of sealift was annoying me...)
4 TRS
2 AMPH
2 INF
LND-4
Pilot
FTR-3

USA
4 naval construction (all TRS)
4 ship repair
1 SUB
4 carrier air 1
2 LND-2
1 LND-4
5 pilots
3 INF
Antitank-4
Cavalry div

USSR
3 INF
1 INF-HQ
2 MECH DIV
1 ART-4
2 FTR-2
1 pilot
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