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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/9/2015 2:27:13 AM   
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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/12/2015 2:50:26 PM   
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Troops are in combat at Port Augusta. He will take it as I only have an engineer unit there to defend. Without AA support any units out in the open are dead meat for his bombers. he completely wiped out an American tank unit in 3 days when it was caught that way.

I am starting to get pissed off. Strat moving everything I can into Calcutta. I am going to push hard on his advance in india and see where it gets me. He has mounted a really weak advance on this area and maybe I can surround or at least make his troups manuver.

4EB's moved over from the US will hit some of his ground troops out in the open tomorrow. We shall see if turnabout works well.

Still 80+ days till the Hawaiian dept reorganizes into the south pacific. 50+ days until I get my first full USMC division.

Starting to work out strategic goals for the end of the year.

He has given me extra troops and I am considering some really bold moves.

Direct attack from CT to Geraldton/Perth.

Direct attack deep in the pacific.

Taking out Noumea from NZ.

Not sure what strategy might apply yet.

Given it is not even April of 1942 I really cant counter attack yet but I need to know what my basic moves will be. He mentioned it getting crazy between June & July. Not sure but he still might be thinking about taking portions of Alaska and/or India. NZ could still be a target as well. He still has to mop up the Phillipines and Singapore and that will take resources as well.

Right now strategically everything is at Pearl Harbor naval wise including the POW and Repulse. I have one CA and a bunch of DD's at wellington but everything else is at Pearl.

What I would like to do is set up some sort of trap for NJP's carriers but it is really too early to formulate plans on that as the battlefield is too fluid. The advantage I have is that I know I can get his carriers to a battle, I need to be sure I can come out ahead when it happens.

NJP has conquered all of the cities within the inner circle of China save Chungking. He has yet to begin an assault. I hope the blocking positions that I have set up in the mountains will help keep him from getting supplied although he now has a local source the factories were damaged to a degree. Within 3 weeks Chungking will get over 600AV and that will put it at about 3K. I do not expect to hold the city this game.

Strategically though, he didnt lose last game due to not taking China. In fact, the chineese troops did not help very much in the taking of the continent. It was my outflanking move of having the british and Americans take the coastline that ultimately cut off and destroyed the Japanese Army. The Chinese were largely a liability with so many of them dying to any attack they made that really it wasnt worth using them most of the time.

Australia is another matter. I have 1000AV + at both melbourne and sydney. Sydney has almost 400K supplies a lot of AA and will take some significant effort to overcome. Melbourne is the same situation with less supply. Again though, Australia was not really used by me in the last war effort. Supply flowed from America to Rabaul when it fell and also from CT to Perth. I can re-route the supply from CT wherever I want on the west side of the map and right now I have a lot of ships building up that supply.

Right now it seems like Australia might be the tar baby I want him to keep...

I would appreciate any suggestions from the peanut gallery on targets, traps, etc.





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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/12/2015 3:59:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Whatever direction your attack takes shape, it will be fun to read about, and that you have lost so few warships it will probably be devastating.

In Early 42, with Japan running rampant all over the place, I like to strike at the shipping around Hokkaido with a very fast raid. Not risk carriers but CA/CL/DDs race in and race out again. Of course other people have done some pretty neat raids there with carriers too.

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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/12/2015 4:58:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		He has such long supply lines and never enough patrol planes I would look at some convoy raiding where you might sense a weakness with searchs. I find the old US Cls with float planes great of this...keep replenishment around though.

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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/13/2015 5:47:53 AM   
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Whatever direction your attack takes shape, it will be fun to read about, and that you have lost so few warships it will probably be devastating.

In Early 42, with Japan running rampant all over the place, I like to strike at the shipping around Hokkaido with a very fast raid. Not risk carriers but CA/CL/DDs race in and race out again. Of course other people have done some pretty neat raids there with carriers too.


Carriers are probably not an option just yet. I am not going to commit the main carriers piecemeal this game. Also, I have one recovering from a torpedo mishap.

One issue NJP has right now is there are dozens of dot bases between Hawaii and Australia that fast moving destroyers might be able to make use of.

Not sure if I want to start moving in the pacific yet or see if he still wants to expand.

I am pretty sure he has at least 1000AV in reserve for a future attack.

Here are the ships sunk for kicks and grins. He hasnt put anything bigger than a destroyer down yet outside of port.






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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/14/2015 1:05:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am thinking about this puzzle and turning it around in my head.

Essentially the game revolves completely around the Japanese carriers.

Once the Japanese lose naval superiority the game is on a downhill slide.

Looking at it from a game rather than historical perspective, and given the amount of naval warships I have, maybe I can overwhelm the Japanese carrier fleet in a trick move.

It would be a 3-5 day drive with bait used to wear out the enemy bombers and then a follow through with carriers.

I could set it up as an invasion which would bring NJP in.

On the upside, it could cause the game to accelerate in the Allies favor. On the downside it could lose me the war.

It is April 1st and Wasp will not be ready until June. There are upgrades that happen in June as well and I think July. NJP mentioned it getting crazy in June/July so I may have some further defensive prepping to do. If he does anything stupid this plan may not be necessary.

Given the upgrade status if I come up with a plan like this it will probably be August - November before I try to pull it off. If he has a significant point lead it could add to the possibility. The fleet on patrol has really improved the night time ratings of ships. I have not seen much increase in daytime ratings and/or things drop off between 50 & 55.

I am working on getting plenty of pilots with high ASW and High naval search for the warships. Almost every squadron on the map is in training of some sort or another and I am dumping any pilot with a 70 into the reserves.



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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/14/2015 3:35:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is a maximum experience level to be gained by patrolling alone, and it varies according to class of ship.
Many of the small ones like AMcs, YPs etc. top out at 25 exp., while for DDs I think the top is 55. PTs/MTBs top out at 50.
I don't recall the levels for cruisers and BBs, but I think it is 50 or 55.

I have never checked CVs - never thought to put
them on patrol in a port hex because I think a sub could still brave the mines and shallows to torpedo them.
I am sure conducting flight ops is part of the CV experience factor, even if it is just patrols and training pilots.

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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/15/2015 12:08:13 AM   
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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/15/2015 1:38:18 AM   
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CAP trap in China pulls in some points. 30 + points in air losses means he has to recoup 120 + points in the 4-1 VP war.

Seeing Mundy's game where the Allies have lost 22,000 points in ground combat troops has given me fortitude. He is only at 5.5 to 1 even with that beating going on.

Troops are starting to trickle out from the EC and Pearl. It is time to start risking some units. NJP no longer has an amphib bonus so his losses will be higher on anything that is unplanned.

Many many ships are getting new toys at pearl and everywhere else.

NJP still has 100+ turns to wreck havoc before I am really ready to move.




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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/15/2015 5:23:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		I suggest you watch the intel you get. Allied intel is MUCH better than IJ. Maybe you can figure out where next attacks are going to be and maybe where AK/AP are located for sub attacks.
Hit his merchant marine hard as you can.

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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/15/2015 11:44:42 AM   
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Airman Farley, U. has escaped capture.

You know this guy's first name has got to be Chuck ;]




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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/15/2015 1:02:58 PM   
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I have been focused almost exclusively on training pilots through the first part of the game. The effort is starting to pay off. Of the 600 army fighter pilots in reserve I believe over 75% are 70+ and the least experienced pilots are 61. Hopefully the quality and quantity of pilots will pay off in the future.




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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/15/2015 2:28:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Wargmr

And in other news...

Airman Farley, U. has escaped capture.

You know this guy's first name has got to be Chuck ;]




Also note that Barnes B (nickname "Big Red") has been put back in the pools for reassignment .... now try to guess which unit/squadron/ship he was commanding or assigned to so you can check to see what incompetent fool has replaced him!

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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/17/2015 12:09:43 PM   
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WHOOT!!

21st Division just got mauled at Ballarat!!!








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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/17/2015 3:28:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Wargmr

April 9 1942

WHOOT!!

21st Division just got mauled at Ballarat!!!








How did you accomplish such a lop-sided victory? Tanks vs. horse cavalry and bayonet charges by troops out of bullets?

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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/17/2015 3:49:23 PM   
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Pilot Training

I have been focused almost exclusively on training pilots through the first part of the game. The effort is starting to pay off. Of the 600 army fighter pilots in reserve I believe over 75% are 70+ and the least experienced pilots are 61. Hopefully the quality and quantity of pilots will pay off in the future.





You should watch out for pilots with low defense skill; I think training "sweep" at 1000 feet will increase it.

Low defense = good chances to die

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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/17/2015 4:34:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Wargmr

April 9 1942

WHOOT!!

21st Division just got mauled at Ballarat!!!








How did you accomplish such a lop-sided victory? Tanks vs. horse cavalry and bayonet charges by troops out of bullets?


One of two things likely happened. I was heading for ballarat and either he tried to quickly move a division in to reinforce because he had a fragment of a raiding division otherwise. Or, he got caught in a strat move that did not work out his way.

A couple regular and then some armored tank units rolled up on the packed up troops and had a field day. Not sure what to do next.





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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/17/2015 8:11:32 PM   
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Not sure what to do next.

Consider hitting it again. You might destroy it!

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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/17/2015 9:37:25 PM   
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Not sure what to do next.

Consider hitting it again. You might destroy it!

Amen! As the management gurus like to say "Reinforce Success!"

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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/18/2015 11:01:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		While they were hit hard and you destroyed the fragment of the raiding unit, the total loss in combat squads was about 170.

That's about half of a divisions worth and some of that loss was from the fragment destroyed so the Division is likely still at half strength likely with very high disruption.

A shock attack could still be a very bloody way to go so personally I would limit it to a DA and then if successful again follow that with an SA.

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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/18/2015 2:29:32 PM   
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While they were hit hard and you destroyed the fragment of the raiding unit, the total loss in combat squads was about 170.

That's about half of a divisions worth and some of that loss was from the fragment destroyed so the Division is likely still at half strength likely with very high disruption.

A shock attack could still be a very bloody way to go so personally I would limit it to a DA and then if successful again follow that with an SA.


I didnt mean what to do regarding the unit if possible. BTW, he escaped since I already made him retreat out of the hex and for some reason the bombers set to bomb him did not fly 2 turns in a row 1 hex away. *sigh* My take was he had about 1 regiment left. If he does escape I expect that unit to need at least 2 months to get back into shape.

The troops I used are the bulk of the Melbourne defense so I cant let them stray too far.

What NJP is attempting to do in Australia strategically escapes me...

He left Newcastle undefended and a Coy unit took it back. Now, maybe he doesnt want troops out in the open due to bombers, I dont know... However, Newcastle has 440 resources generated per turn and I was almost out of resources in Sydney. My piles there went from 9K to 66K with more left over at Newcastle. Thanks NJP!!!

He has a naval guard unit at Canberra that is getting pounded and it appears that a regiment is moving west away from that position.

My take is he has 600-1000 AV to the west, maybe 1500AV tops. There do not appear to be many troops in or around Sydney.

I think his plan is based on surprise and gaining a key city (either Melbourne or Sydney) on the quick somehow. It might be a good tactic against a newer opponent but I am not leaving either of these empty. in fact, Sydney has 1600 AV of troops and Melborne has 300+ AV with another 600+ AV that just mauled the 21st division right outside. I will likely move them back into the city as the advantage lies with me right now as troops are training up. For some reason the Australian army can train to 65 experience.




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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/18/2015 2:46:49 PM   
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NJP has had troops in Chungking for over a week now. Not sure what he is waiting for as he has not even begun bombardment. Maybe the blocking positions are working to delay supply to his troops. The problem for him is that within that last week over 1000 AV have been added to the city by group reinforcements. In fact, I am moving all of the support I can out of the city to avoid overstacking.

There is no reason for him not to take the city in this game but it is going to cost him.




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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/19/2015 12:32:03 PM   
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First attack goes in at Chungking at 1-6 odds.




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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/19/2015 1:12:59 PM   
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Will take a while to recover from that.

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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/20/2015 11:12:29 PM   
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India - Not sure what he is going to try to do here. I already have 4000+AV on the continent and 1800AV in reserve with the bonus troops and regular reinforcements. He cannot take Calcutta or Bombay unless I allow it. He could take Madras and spread into the southeastern part of India but it would cost him a lot of supplies and be at the end of his supply lines.






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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/20/2015 11:16:57 PM   
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That first attack appeared to sting pretty good. NJP has moved troops out of Chungking and probably intends to surround the city and/or whatever else he has planned. Still have plenty of blocking troops in position but he is getting supply directly from Chengtu and some of the previous Chinese cities to the north. Not sure how much this will help him before he clears out some of the other troops.

I keep receiving reinforcements and am stronger than before the attack. Having turned reinforcements off in Chungking the supply is rising as well. Most units have squads that need to recover before adding more.






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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/20/2015 11:21:42 PM   
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Working on training my armies up while NJP chases me around the continent. If he gets Adelaide he gains 650VP so it is definitely a good target for him. Beyond that I dont see how he is going to get me out of Melbourne and/or Sydney. Both cities have 1000 AV + in heavy urban terrain.

Supply wise I have just as much as before, almost 400K at Sydney and 170K at Melbourne. I think I have about 22K of fuel left at Sydney so supplies might stop rising or start dropping in about 3 weeks but even at a loss of 2K supplies per day I have months and months worth.






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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/21/2015 12:55:35 AM   
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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/21/2015 1:00:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		Re: India - several Allied players have successfully trapped large numbers of IJA troops in Burma by going via Ledo - Myitkyina and rampaging down the road in their superior tanks. Marching units took care of the cut-off IJA troops as they moved south. This kind of attack also needs large numbers of 2E bombers to slow down and wear down the IJA as they try to withdraw, and of course there is a continuous fighter contest over the troops.

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RE: Groundhog Day! - 3/21/2015 1:48:25 AM   
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