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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/28/2015 7:57:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well don't get me wrong, I can appreciate the clean lined beautifully simple look, but given the choice I prefer something with more character.

The Avenger is just sooo full of character, well built, plenty of goodies, bags of fun and all delivered with a twinkle in her eye; the saucy little minx

So in summary, in my opinion (and therefore a fact) no other torpedo bomber comes close



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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/28/2015 8:17:34 PM   
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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/28/2015 8:26:27 PM   
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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/28/2015 8:27:03 PM   
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Did they fit any Mossies for torpedo carriage?
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Indeed - but I'm not sure they were operational in WWII.

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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/28/2015 8:37:18 PM   
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Now this an ugly torpedo bomber.



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Got character though

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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/28/2015 8:40:07 PM   
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Now this an ugly torpedo bomber.



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Got character though

Very cool.

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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/28/2015 10:02:17 PM   
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Got character though


Naw...what we say around these here parts is that she's "got a nice personality".

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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/29/2015 1:07:04 PM   
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Another one in my sign. It is from an Airfix 1/72 box i still have somehwere.

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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/29/2015 2:25:06 PM   
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Yeah

Another one in my sign. It is from an Airfix 1/72 box i still have somehwere.
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Well I like it - in a "so-pig-ugly-its-beautiful-kind-of-way".


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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/30/2015 1:16:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Aesthetics can vary from person to person. I think the Jill was the last plane to enter service with the long 3 place greenhouse canopy. It was typical layout for a late 30s torpedo bomber. I think the Grace has better lines than the Jill. Plus it was a more capable plane, though it was too large to operate from any Japanese carriers when it was introduced (it was designed for the Taiho class of which only one was ever built and she was sunk before the Grace was ready).

The Grace had a shorter greenhouse for the crew of two, so it looked more like a dive bomber (a role it could to too). Both the USN and IJN were looking at an all in one attack bomber. The Grace fit that bill two years before the USN's entry (the Skyraider). The Grace also looked like a more robust airplane than the Jill.

Personally I do like the lines of the TBF. It's a lot more airplane than previous generations of carrier torpedo bombers. It also beats out it's competition for acceptance into service, the TBY Seawolf. That plane has been beaten bad with the ugly stick!

http://www.wardrawings.be/WW2/Files/2-Airplanes/Allies/1-USA/07-Maritime-Planes/TBY-Seawolf/TBY-1Seawolf.htm

It is faster and has longer range then the TBF though.

But each to their own.

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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/30/2015 11:42:03 AM   
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Another one in my sign. It is from an Airfix 1/72 box i still have somehwere.
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Well I like it - in a "so-pig-ugly-its-beautiful-kind-of-way".




Yeah, it looks better in video than in pictures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xNmwxUs4aA

Of 3 engine bombers the most aesthetically is the Cant Z.1007.

Most also don't know that the first propose built military transport plane was the 3 engine S.82, it was designed to be able to transport a tankette, or instead Fiat Cr42 biplane fighter, or 3 533mm torpedos, or ~30 troops.

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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/30/2015 11:53:42 AM   
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Aesthetics can vary from person to person. I think the Jill was the last plane to enter service with the long 3 place greenhouse canopy. It was typical layout for a late 30s torpedo bomber. I think the Grace has better lines than the Jill. Plus it was a more capable plane, though it was too large to operate from any Japanese carriers when it was introduced (it was designed for the Taiho class of which only one was ever built and she was sunk before the Grace was ready).

The Grace had a shorter greenhouse for the crew of two, so it looked more like a dive bomber (a role it could to too). Both the USN and IJN were looking at an all in one attack bomber. The Grace fit that bill two years before the USN's entry (the Skyraider). The Grace also looked like a more robust airplane than the Jill.

Personally I do like the lines of the TBF. It's a lot more airplane than previous generations of carrier torpedo bombers. It also beats out it's competition for acceptance into service, the TBY Seawolf. That plane has been beaten bad with the ugly stick!

http://www.wardrawings.be/WW2/Files/2-Airplanes/Allies/1-USA/07-Maritime-Planes/TBY-Seawolf/TBY-1Seawolf.htm

It is faster and has longer range then the TBF though.

But each to their own.

Bill


I think the Jill is a nice plane, it is one of those rare instances where exaggeration gives more meaning, or a staple. I think TBF has character but i don't like fat things so i'll have to pass

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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/30/2015 7:28:05 PM   
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I think the Jill is a nice plane, it is one of those rare instances where exaggeration gives more meaning, or a staple. I think TBF has character but i don't like fat things so i'll have to pass

warspite1

Guess you won't be a fan of this other fine aircraft then?




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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/30/2015 7:55:25 PM   
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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/30/2015 8:11:15 PM   
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Nopes but Hawker Sea Fury, Iar 80 yes
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The Sea Fury agreed







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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/30/2015 8:12:00 PM   
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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/31/2015 3:04:37 PM   
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But if it is torpedo bombers that could look better then I nominate this one.






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RE: What was the most succesful aerial torpedo attack? - 1/31/2015 5:05:57 PM   
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Nice picture by the way.

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