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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/6/2018 11:28:43 PM   
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Gentlemen-rankers out on a spree (hopefully)—

I find this morning that have urgent inquiries regarding PT-Boat pools...

I am in dire need of replacements in the Formosa region. I have many PTs on the map, once located in former front-line posts, now well to the rear and far, far from Formosa...

If I place these "Return to the Pool", how fast do they become available to be generated in Formosa?

Are they costly to buy out of the pool?

As always, thank you, gentlemen,

Hag

It takes about three weeks (haven't done it often enough to nail it down, and there may be some randoms involved or calculation of time from current location to pool to new location.)
Cost is about 64 tons of supply per boat, and they spawn in multiples of six IIRC (pools and supply permitting).



Thank you, BB!

I was uncertain these "re-spawned" boats would cost political points in addition to supply points... kind of like purchasing seat licenses for the privilege of buying a season ticket?

Well, three weeks is three weeks. Might as well get started.

Actually all the previously made PTs were to be available for use along the "Noose"—the envisioned contain-line from Amoy to Marcus. But perceived exigencies take precedence. And I have the sensation I'm going to need a lot of these in the Formosa battle very soon...

Your friend,

Hag

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/7/2018 6:50:19 AM   
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If your PTs are close enough to Formosa (say, the Marshalls or closer), just put them in a TF and set it to follow a larger ship that has enough fuel to share on the way there. They may get some system damage but they can be there more quickly.

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/7/2018 9:52:39 AM   
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After Action Report

for October 25, 1943



Highlights for Today


1.) Captain Haggard's PT Boats unleashed a relentless onslaught against Japanese War and Transport ships within the vicinity of Formosa. Explosions sparkled across the night sea sinking and damaging thirty-six (36) Japanese ships. At dawn, Helldiver, Dauntless, and Avenger squadrons sunk or damaged an additional eighteen (18) Japanese ships.

***Only one major Japanese Warship was a hit (a CL took 2 hits; heavy fires). The other 53 Japanese ships sunk or damaged were TK (1), CMs (2), PBs (6), SCs (10), xAKLs (8), xAKs (23), and xAPs ((3).

2.) An Allied destroyer dented a Japanese submarine near Saipan.

3.) Japanese bombed Chungking and Kweiyang in China.

4.) Allies bombed Moulmein, Burma and dues west of Paoshan, China; and bombarded due west of Paoshan.

***Although the Allies had a good day, El Lobo no doubt managed to land additional ground forces on Formosa, at Chengchun. Depending upon the size of these additional Japanese reinforcements, the Allies may need to also reinforce Formosa. At this time, the only viable way for the Allies to reinforce Formosa is to fly a couple Marine Divisions from Amoy to Takao. Accordingly, the losses suffered by El Lobo today may result in being well worth the price as it will slow down the Allied advance in China.


Synopsis of Combat Action for Today


1.) Allied Destroyer hits Japanese Submarine near Saipan (hex 113,97).

SS I-165: 2 hits.

No Allied losses.

2.) Japanese bomb Chungking.

No Japanese losses.

32 hits (Manpower).
21,942 (Fires).
6 hits (Airbase).
2 hits (Airbase Supply).
14 hits (Runway).


3.) Japanese bomb near Kweiyang (hex 75,50).

No Japanese losses.

26 Chinese Casualties.

4.) Allies bomb near Paoshan (hex 64,45).

63 Japanese Casualties.

9 destroyed (Ki-44-IIc Tojo).
12 destroyed (Ki-45-KAIa Nick).


3 destroyed (P-38G Lightning).
11 destroyed (P-40K Warhawk).


No damage to any of the Allied bombers.

5.) Allies bomb Moulmein.

27 Japanese Casualties.

1 destroyed (A6M5 Zero).
6 destroyed (Ki-84a Frank).
1 destroyed (Ki-45-KAIa Nick).


10 destroyed (P-47D2 Thunderbolt).
1 damaged (B-17E Fortress).
1 damaged (B-17F Fortress).
1 destroyed and 5 damaged (B-25C Mitchell).
4 destroyed and 3 damaged (B-25D1 Mitchell).


6.) Formosa and Vicinity

2,694 Casualties.

54 sunk or damaged ships:

-10 ships sunk.
13 ships heavily damaged.
9 ships on fire.
22 ships damaged.

10 aircraft destroyed.
21 aircraft damaged.


***Of the Japanese losses, The Haggard Group accounted for 36 sunk or damaged Japanese ships (9 sunk, 4 heavily damaged, 8 on fire, and 15 damaged) and for 1,099 Japanese casualties.

28 PT Boats sunk or damaged:

-18 PT Boats sunk.
3 PT Boats heavily damaged.
1 PT Boat on fire.
6 PT Boats damaged.

22 aircraft destroyed.
21 aircraft damaged.


7.) Allies bombard near Paoshan (Hex 64,45).

87 Japanese Casualties.

8 Guns Lost: 3 destroyed and 5 disabled.
3 Vehicles lost: 1 destroyed and 2 disabled.



Attached below as a link is the entire Combat Report for October 25, 1943.

Best Regards,

-Terry




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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/7/2018 12:37:36 PM   
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You should rename this AAR "McHale's Navy".




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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/7/2018 3:22:14 PM   
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You lost 10 of the best US fighters (P-47D2) at Moulmein. I am guessing you had them escorting the bombers, which severely handicaps their air combat abilities against the Japanese Frank. IMO the Thunderbolts and Lightnings should be sweeping and less capable fighters used as escorts. In other AARs I think I have seen warnings that P-47 production dries up for a while so you will not get replacements during critical periods.

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/7/2018 8:29:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Zorch

You should rename this AAR "McHale's Navy".






Zorch-

*laughing*

Good idea. I can live with that.

Best Regards,

-Terry


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/7/2018 8:32:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

You lost 10 of the best US fighters (P-47D2) at Moulmein. I am guessing you had them escorting the bombers, which severely handicaps their air combat abilities against the Japanese Frank. IMO the Thunderbolts and Lightnings should be sweeping and less capable fighters used as escorts. In other AARs I think I have seen warnings that P-47 production dries up for a while so you will not get replacements during critical periods.



BBfanboy-


The Thunderbolts were on LRCAP with a range of 2.

Best Regards,

-Terry


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/8/2018 1:19:05 PM   
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After Action Report

for October 26, 1943



Highlights for Today


1.) Captain Haggard's Submarines and PT Boats wreak havoc again within the Vicinity of Formosa sinking or damaging ten (10) Japanese ships. El Lobo takes out his anger on Allied Aircraft destroying 42 and damaging 26 while only suffering an additional six (6) damaged ships.

2.) The Allies deliberately attack and capture Hengyang and Swatow in China.

3.) Japanese bomb Chungking and southeast of Kweiyang.

4.) The Allies bomb Moulmein, Burma, bomb due east of Paoshan, and bombard due east of Paoshan.

5.) The Stars and Stripes report that they have received 286,000 requests from Allied sailors and soldiers asking the whereabouts of Bella Arbel.


Synopsis of Combat Action for Today


1.) Allies bomb Moulmein, Burma.

109 Japanese Casualties.
5 Aircraft destroyed.


4 Aircraft destroyed and 14 damaged.

2.) Allies bomb near Paoshan (hex 64,45).

47 Japanese casualties.
14 Aircraft destroyed.


2 Aircraft destroyed.

3.) Japanese bomb Chungking.

No Japanese losses.

2 hits (Manpower).
4,995 (Fires).
2 hits (Airbase).
7 hits (Runway).


4.) Japanese bomb near Kweiyang (hex 75,50).

No Japanese losses.

76 Chinese casualties.

5.) Naval and Air Combat within the Vicinity of Formosa.

16 Ships sunk or damaged:

3 Sunk.
5 Heavily damaged.
3 On fire.
5 Damaged.

501 Japanese Casualties.
2 Guns destroyed and 2 damaged.
2 hits (Airbase).
3 hits (Airbase Supply).
15 hits (Runway).

27 Aircraft destroyed or damaged:

7 Aircraft destroyed.
20 Aircraft damaged.


68 Aircraft destroyed or damaged:

42 destroyed.
26 damaged.


6.) Allies bombard near Paoshan (Hex 64,45).

77 Japanese Casualties.

2 Guns destroyed and 4 disabled.

7.) Allies deliberately attack Hengyang, China.

1 Aircraft destroyed.
2,734 Japanese Casualties.
Allies capture Hengyang.


571 Allied Casualties.

8.) Allies deliberately attack Swatow, China.

620 Japanese Casualties.
Allies capture Swatow.


97 Allied Casualties.


Attached below as a link is the entire Combat Report for October 26, 1943.

Best Regards,

-Terry








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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/8/2018 3:30:52 PM   
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The expendables expending many a Japanese merchant vessel. How many PT boast were in the first attacks?

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/9/2018 10:17:46 AM   
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The expendables expending many a Japanese merchant vessel. How many PT boast were in the first attacks?



Bif-

I am not sure how many PT Boats closed-in on El Lobo's ships within the vicinity of Formosa. My guess is close to 120.

All of the PT Boats are under the command of The Haggard Group. Perhaps, Captain Haggard can provide you with a more accurate number.

Best Regards,

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/10/2018 12:05:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

If your PTs are close enough to Formosa (say, the Marshalls or closer), just put them in a TF and set it to follow a larger ship that has enough fuel to share on the way there. They may get some system damage but they can be there more quickly.


BB—

Gotta say when I first saw this I thought, No way... but the more I think of it, it's possible... course, it's hard to say for certain who owns a particular chunk of the Philippine Sea on any given day, but... hmm...

Hag


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/10/2018 12:12:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Zorch

You should rename this AAR "McHale's Navy".





Zorch,

It's hard to discover a more friendly PTB operational area than the combination of 3-4 mainland bases along the Formosa Strait, Perscadores and 3-4 bases around Formosa itself—all to hit other Formosan targets, Iriomote, Ishigari, Batan, Orchid and beyond.

We lack for not for targets.

Hag

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/10/2018 12:17:08 AM   
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The expendables expending many a Japanese merchant vessel. How many PT boast were in the first attacks?


Bif,

Admiral Rio is correct in citing 120 total in regards to the number of boats in the operational area at it's zenith. Now it's less, probably 80-90.

The original attacks used about 60, however. I am concerned about nocturnal surface bombardments against our bases—all we have to defend them are SS and PTs. Have to hold some back.

Hag

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/10/2018 1:03:03 PM   
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After Action Report

for October 27, 1943



Highlights for Today


1.) El Lobo shock attacks and captures Karenko, Formosa.

2.) For the third consecutive day, Captain Haggard's PT Boats and Submarines pummel Japanese ships within the vicinity of Formosa sinking or damaging thirty-three (33) ships; including but not limited to, setting a CL on fire and damaging three (3) destroyers. The Japanese sunk or damaged eight (8) PT Boats. Furthermore, the Japanese now own the sky above Formosa (damn Franks).

3.) Japanese bomb southeast of Kweiyang and Chungking in China, and near Pagan, Marianas Islands.

4.) The Allies bomb Moulmein, Burma and due west of Paoshan, China, and bombard due west of Paoshan.


Synopsis of Combat Action for Today


1.) Allies bomb Moulmein, Burma.

2 destroyed (Ki-45 KAIa Nick).

113 Japanese Casualties.


1 destroyed Liberator GR.III).
1 damaged (B-17E Fortress).
2 damaged (B-17F Fortress.
1 damaged B-25D1 Mitchell)
2 damaged (B25C Mitchell)
4 damaged (B-26 Marauder).


2.) Allies bomb due west of Paoshan, China.

102 Japanese Casualties.

No Allied losses.

3.) Japanese bomb southeast of Kweiyang, China (hex 75,50).

No Japanese losses.

161 Chinese Casualties.

4.) Japanese bomb Chungking, China.

No Japanese losses.

31 hits (Manpower).
14,581 (Fires).


5.) Naval combat within the vicinity of Formosa.

33 Japanese ships sunk or damaged ( 1 CL, 3 DDs, 2 PBs, 3 E Boats, 2 SCs, 5 xAKs, 2 xAPs, and 15 xAKLs):

7 sunk.
9 heavily damaged.
4 on fire.
14 damaged.

2,272 Japanese Casualties (from sunk and/or damaged ships).


8 Allied PT Boats sunk or damaged:

5 sunk.
2 on fire.
1 damaged.


6.) Japanese attack Allied ships near Pagan, Marianas Islands.

4 damaged (G3M3 Nell).

No Allied losses.

7.) Allies bombard due west of Paoshan, China.

81 Japanese Casualties.

10 Vehicles lost: 1 destroyed and 9 disabled.

8.) Japanese shock attack Karenko, Formosa.

No Japanese losses.

Japanese capture Karennko.


Attached below as a link is the entire Combat Report for October 27, 1943.

Best Regards,

-Terry




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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/12/2018 4:35:23 PM   
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**Special Communique**
Siangtan, China
October, 27, 1943

Hengyang lies behind us, back down the sinewy highway that winds through the China of popular imagination, of terraced rice fields and ruined shrines and rustic villages nestled along narrow streams. At the roadblock on the outskirts of Siangtan, the Chinese guards seem to expect us. At least they ogle Bella with familiarity—she wears her combat jacket over a saucy black evening dress, a garment that she borrowed from an old acquaintance named “Marco” in Hengyang.

“The Baedeker man?” I ask.

“Not even close, green person,” she laughs.

We follow directions down to the river, a gap of gravel between a twisting shoreline of seamless lengths of three- and four-story ramshackle residences. The bottom floors consist of exposed stacks of ballast—sandbags and boulders—that disappear into the river and prevent, I imagine, the entire neighborhood from washing away.

When the boat arrives—an insane top-heavy contraption with porcelain gunnels, it already holds ten passengers, all dressed as swank as Bella. A blonde woman from Macao wears a striking gown of black silk and leopard skin with matching wrap. Her partner, a Frenchman from Indochina attired—as all the males present—in immaculate tuxedo, operates the tiller. He wears a leather mask over one side of his face, which doesn’t fully hide his wounds.

We wedge ourselves in with held breaths. Bella sits on my lap and fills me in: “You’ll adore the Tianxin Pavilion... it’s walls actually encase a steep little hill and the buildings and gardens form a tall maze... you’re up, you’re down, you’re inside and then you’re outside and you can’t really tell where you are, except those occasions when you can glimpse stars through the Milky Way trees, and when you try to reverse your course there are so many tiny lanterns illuminating different paths, you can never be sure which way you’ve come...

“This night of Harmony Quest no couples can begin together, it’s forbidden... they’ll split us up of course... relocate you with the other men in the lower gardens to start... you’ll have to search for me... and all through your search you’ll be accosted by men desperate to find their wives and girlfriends—while the women you come across frequently do everything they can not to be found by their men—including pulling you into the shadows to hide! It’s fun!”

As she twists excitedly toward me, the older Chinese man across from us presses her long leg between his knees—a leg exposed by the risque slit in her evening dress.

“Jambes jolies,” he says to her with a purr.

“Merci,” she laughs, making no attempt to cover-up, despite the growing chill.

I confess: All these days in the rear have made me apprehensive of the van. I can’t help myself. “Uh, Bella my love—you say this pavilion is in Changsha? I hate to be a party-pooper, but last I heard Changsha is still in the hands of the Japs, no?”

She paws in her evening bag for her Chesterfields. “What of it? Harmony Quest only happens once a year. No one who is invited would think to skip it just because a few armies face-off.”

“There’ll be Japanese at this party?”

Bella glances at the Chinese gentleman as if embarrassed for my concern: “I’m afraid you’ll find the presence of Japanese isn’t as unique to us as it is to you—”

“Understood, but I’m the one in uniform—”

“Oh, I’m sure many of them will be, too,” she states, accepting her admirer’s light, then patting my chest, “and you look fine at any rate.”

The slit parting her dress now exceeds the upper limits of her black stockings. The Chinese admirer, leaning forward, massages his fingertip on the strip of exposed white upper-thigh. “Bas gui,” he purrs with a wink.

“Au contrare,” Bella laughs, folding his finger back, “vous devez monter haut, mon cherie.”

“Oo-la-la!” laughs the admirer, showing a mouthful of immaculate gold.

The river has panned out and there ahead Changsha looms in gentle evening pastels. As we putter under the long bridge, low enough that one instinctively hunches, I sense movement in the shadows directly above us—

Sure enough, amid the underside joists of the bridge, dangles a Japanese soldier. Steadying himself and lowering his hands from the wires that connect the explosive package, he looks like a concerned schoolboy as he studies me; he waves.

Bella slinks her arm around mine and nestles close: “My advice to you, dear Tiger Hunter, is to appear spectacularly brazen tonight!” She giggles breathlessly in my ear, and with a little flick of her tongue, says, “Move fast and sure—the Japanese guests will think you’re one of those crazy PT-Boat boys and give you wide berth—”

Submitted,
F.W. Bloomquist-Rose, LT USNR
SPECOP Haggard Group

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/12/2018 5:56:11 PM   
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Captain Haggard-

LT Bloomquist-Rose provides a senuous description of Changsha.

However, trying to corral him to imbed with the 1st Marine Division versus inbed with his temptingly curved driver is like trying to herd a fresh hatch of Mayflies.

I suppose I will have to make the perfect presentation with Bella Arbel attached to the end of the floating fly line and give it an attractive tug to hook LT Bloomquist-Rose and drag him to the 1st Marine Division.

*laughing hard*

Your pal,

-Admiral Bravo

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/13/2018 11:48:19 AM   
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After Action Report

for October 28, 1943



Highlights for Today


1.) Japanese deliberately attack Moulmein (Burma) and get slaughtered.

2.) Japanese bomb Kweiyang (China) and Chungking (China).

3.) Allies bomb Moulmein (Burma), bomb due west of Paoshan (China), bomb Taihoku (Formosa), bomb Hengchun ( Formosa), and bomb Pagan (Marianas Islands).

4.) Allies bombard due west of Paoshan (China).

5.) Allies deliberately attack Hengyang (China).


Synopsis of Combat Action for Today


1.) Allies bomb Moulmein.

113 Japanese Casualties.

2 destroyed (A-36 Mustang).
2 damaged (B-17E Fortress)
3 damaged (B-17F Fortress).
5 damaged (B-25C Mitchell).
3 damaged (B-25D1 Mitchell).
2 damaged (B-26 Marauder).


2.) Allies bomb due west of Paoshan (hex 64,45).

47 Japanese Casualties.

1 destroyed (Ki-45 KAIa Nick).
1 destroyed (Ki-44-IIc Tojo).


9 damaged (B-24D1 (Liberator).

3.) Japanese bomb southeast of Kweiyang (hex 75,50).

1 destroyed (Ki-49-IIb Helen).

43 Allied Casualties.

4.) Japanese bomb Chungking.

No Japanese losses.

13 hits (Manpower).
5,073 (Fires).


5.) Naval and Air Combat within the vicinity of Formosa.

159 Japanese Casualties.

Japanese Ships Damaged (9 ships):

CA Atago: damaged.
E Fukue: damaged.
E Saishu: damaged.
E W-27: damaged.
xAK Ryuyo Maru: damaged.
xAK Kurohime Maru: heavy fires.
xAK Meiko Maru: heavy damage.
xAK Tensyo Maru: heavy damage.
xAKL Kiinjosen MAru: on fire.

Japanese Aircraft Losses (6 destroyed and 15 damaged):

5 destroyed and 8 damaged (N1K1-J George).
1 destroyed (Ki-84a Frank).
1 damaged (Ki-45 KAIa Nick).
6 damaged (Ki-49-IIb Helen).

5 hits (Airbase).
2 hits (Airbase Supply).
12 hits (Runway).


Allied Ships Sunk and Damaged (7 PT Boats):

PT 297: damaged.
PT 299: damaged.
PT-134: sunk.
PT-243: sunk.
PT-244: sunk.
PT-250: sunk.
PT 348: sunk.

Allied Aircraft Losses (11 destroyed and 34 damaged):

3 destroyed (F6F-3 Hellcat).
3 destroyed and 8 damaged (SB2C-1C Helldiver).
1 destroyed (F4F-3 Wildcat).
3 destroyed and 19 damaged (B-24D1 Liberator).
1 destroyed and 7 damaged (B-24J Liberator).

1 hit (Airbase).
1 hit (Runway).


6.) Allies bomb Pagan.

15 Japanese Casualties.

Japanese Aircraft Losses (6 destroyed):

2 destroyed (N1K1-J George).
2 destroyed (B5N2 Kate).
1 destroyed (H6K5 Mavis).
1 destroyed (H8K2 Emily).

12 hits (Airbase).
5 hits (Airbase Supply).
41 hits (Runway).
9 hits (Port).
1 hit (Port Supply).


Allied Aircraft Losses (17 damaged):

3 damaged (PV-1 Ventura).
7 damaged ((B-24D1 Liberator).
7 damaged (B-24J Liberator).


7.) Japanese deliberately attack Moulmein).

29,201 Japanese Casualties.
1 unit destroyed.


521 Allied Casualties.
Fort level reduced to 3.


8.) Allies bombard due west of Paoshan (hex 64,45).

139 Japanese Casualties.

3 Allied Casualties.

9.) Allies deliberately attack Hengyang.

2,528 Japanese Casualties.

732 Allied Casualties.


Attached below is the entire Combat Report for October 28, 1943.

Best Regards,

-Terry










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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/13/2018 9:38:46 PM   
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Terry,
Any possiblity of getting a screen shot of the plane losses to date?

Thanks if possible!

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/15/2018 1:47:24 AM   
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Next time I'm at the Changsha Airport I'll have to schedule enough of a layover to check out the Tianxin Pavilion. Good stuff!

Cheers,
CC

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/15/2018 12:25:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

Terry,
Any possiblity of getting a screen shot of the plane losses to date?

Thanks if possible!



Rusty

Below is a screenshot of Aircraft losses to date.

I am not sure whether this screenshot is what you were looking to see?

If not, please let me know how to provide the screenshot you wanted.

Best Regards,

-Terry






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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/15/2018 12:28:05 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

Next time I'm at the Changsha Airport I'll have to schedule enough of a layover to check out the Tianxin Pavilion. Good stuff!

Cheers,
CC



Commander Cody-

I really enjoy Captain Haggard's Bloomquist descriptions of China battlefield locations.

Your business takes you to Changsha now and then?

Best Regards,

-Terry


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/16/2018 2:02:47 AM   
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After Action Report

for October 29, 1943



Highlights for Today


1.) There were numerous naval, air, and ground combat actions today; all but one of them minor in nature and losses by either side.

2.) The Allies deliberately attacked Hengyang and inflicted substantial Japanese casualties while suffering minor casualties.

3.) El Lobo has landed a substantial amount of ground forces on Formosa and intelligence indicates that he is also building-up Apari, Iriomote, Ishigagi, and Naha. There is no immediate need, but within a couple weeks the Allies will commence flying the 4th Marine Division from Amoy to Takao. If need be, the 3rd Marine Division will also be flown to Takao.


Synopsis of Combat Action for Today


1.) Allied PT Boats hammer a Japanese SC near Taihoku (hex 88,63).

SC Ch 35: 13 shell hits; heavy fires; heavy damage.

No Allied losses.

2.) Japanese E Boat rocks an Allied Submarine near Hengchun (hex 84,68).

No Japanese losses.

SS Pompon: 6 hits.

3.) Allied Submarine trashes a Japanese xAKL near Miyako-jima (hex 92,66).

xAKL Taisoku Maru: on fire; heavy damage.

No Allied losses.

4.) Allied PGs dent Japanese Submarine near Ramree Island (hex 52,47).

SS I-171: 3 hits.

No Allied losses.

5.) Allies bomb Moulmein.

17 Japanese Casualties.
1 destroyed (Ki-44-IIc Tojo).


1 destroyed and 3 damaged (Liberator GR.III).
1 destroyed (B-17E Fortress).
1 damaged (B-17E Fortress).
1 destroyed and 8 damaged (B-25C Mitchell).
2 damaged (B-25D1 Mitchell).


6.) Allies bomb near Paoshan (hex 64,45).

59 Japanese Casualties.
5 destroyed (Ki-44-IIc Tojo).
6 destroyed (Ki-45 KAIa Nick).


2 destroyed (P-47D2 Thunderbolt).
2 damaged (B-24D1 Liberator).


7.) Japanese bomb near Kweiyang (hex 75,50).

No Japanese losses.

49 Chinese Casualties.

8.) Japanese bomb Chungking.

No Japanese losses.

12 hits (Manpower).
6,409 (Fires)


9.) Japanese bomb Taichu.

4 damaged (Ki-49-IIb Helen).

3 hits (Airbase).
1 hit (Airbase Supply).
4 hits (Runway).


10.) Japanese bomb Allied YMS near Pagan (hex 110,89).

1 damaged (G3M3 Nell).

No Allied losses.

11.) Allies bombard near Paoshan (hex 64,45).

140 Japanese Casualties.

13 Allied Casualties.

12.) Allies deliberately attack Karenko.

147 Japanese Casualties.

78 Allied Casualties.

13.) Allies deliberately attack Hengyang.

8,348 Japanese Casualties.
4 Units destroyed.


214 Allied Casualties.


Attached below as a link is the entire photos of Bella Arbel on a nude beach of a lake just outside of Changsha.

Best Regards,

-Terry




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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/16/2018 5:06:08 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Rio Bravo


quote:

ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

Next time I'm at the Changsha Airport I'll have to schedule enough of a layover to check out the Tianxin Pavilion. Good stuff!

Cheers,
CC



Commander Cody-

I really enjoy Captain Haggard's Bloomquist descriptions of China battlefield locations.

Your business takes you to Changsha now and then?

Best Regards,

-Terry


I only actually deal with Shanghai and Beijing, but I once had to connect through Changsha on the way to Bangkok. It had the feeling of an airport that would service a 350,000-person city in the U.S., while Changsha actually has over 7 million people.

On the air loss screen, I think Rusty would like to see it sorted by "Total."

EDIT: Another way to get those Marines across the Formosa Strait is to use barges. They'll be necessary for the heavy stuff.

Cheers,
CC


< Message edited by Commander Cody -- 1/16/2018 5:08:34 AM >


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/16/2018 1:58:38 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rio Bravo


quote:

ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

Next time I'm at the Changsha Airport I'll have to schedule enough of a layover to check out the Tianxin Pavilion. Good stuff!

Cheers,
CC



Commander Cody-

I really enjoy Captain Haggard's Bloomquist descriptions of China battlefield locations.

Your business takes you to Changsha now and then?

Best Regards,

-Terry


I only actually deal with Shanghai and Beijing, but I once had to connect through Changsha on the way to Bangkok. It had the feeling of an airport that would service a 350,000-person city in the U.S., while Changsha actually has over 7 million people.

On the air loss screen, I think Rusty would like to see it sorted by "Total."

EDIT: Another way to get those Marines across the Formosa Strait is to use barges. They'll be necessary for the heavy stuff.

Cheers,
CC



Commander Cody-

I've never been anywhere in China. I think it would be interesting to see Beijing and Shanghai as you have.

Yes, well, the problem is I don't have any undamaged ships within the vicinity of Formosa to make a barge. I am just happy that I took some troop transport aircraft to Formosa.

Thank you for steering me in the right direction; I think I now have the screenshot Rusty requested and will post it next post.

Best Regards,

-Terry


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/16/2018 2:00:12 PM   
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Rusty-

Is the following the screenshot you wanted in reference to aircraft losses?

Best Regards,

-Terry




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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/17/2018 3:40:32 AM   
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After Action Report

for October 30, 1943



Highlights for Today


1.) Allies amphibiously invade and capture Almagan (Marians Islands).

2.) Captain Haggard's Submarines sink two Japanese xAK near Miyako-jima.

3.) Allies bomb Moulmein (Burma), due west of Paoshan (China), and Pagan (Marianas Islands).

4.) Japanese bomb Kweiyang (China) and Taichu (Formosa).

5.) Allies bombard due west of Paoshan (China).

6.) Allies shock attack Hengyang (China) and deliberately attack Karenko (Formosa).


Synopsis of Combat Action for Today

1.) Allied Amphibious Invasion at Almagan.

Allies capture Almagan.

464 New Zealand Casualties.

2.) Allied Submarines torch 2 Japanese xAK near Miyako-jima (hex 91,65).

xAK Taibun Maru: 2 torpedo hits; on fire; heavy damage (Reported Sunk.)
xAK Saiho Maru: 2 torpedo hits; on fire; heavy damge (Reported Sunk).


No Allied losses.

3.) Allies bomb Moulmein.

52 Japanese Casualties.

1 destroyed (Ki-44-IIc Tojo).
1 destroyed (Ki-45 KAIa Nick).
1 destroyed (A6M5 Zero).


2 damaged (B-17E Fortress).
3 destroyed and 6 damaged (B25C Mitchell).
1 destroyed and 7 damaged (B-25D1 Mitchell).


4.) Allies bomb near Paoshan (hex 64,45).

10 destroyed (J2M3 Jack).
2 destroyed (Ki-44-IIc Tojo).
2 destroyed (Ki-KAIa Nick).


3 destroyed (P-47D2 Thunderbolt).

5.) Japanese bomb near Kweiyang (hex 75,50).

1 damaged (Ki--49-IIb Helen).

53 Chinese Casualties.

6.) Japanese bomb Taichu.

5 damaged (Ki-49-IIb Helen).

1 hit (Airbase).
2 hits (Runway).


7.) Allies bomb Pagan.

5 Japanese Casualties.

2 destroyed (N1K1-J George).

6 hits (Airbase).
21 hits (Runway).


5 damaged (B-24D1 Liberator).
10 damaged (PB4Y-1 Liberator).
2 damaged (PV-1 Ventura).


8.) Allies bombard due west of Paoshan (hex 64,45).

94 Japanese Casualties.

4 Allied Casualties.

9.) Allies shock attack Hengyang.

1,711 Japanese Casualties.
4 Units destroyed.


14 Allied Casualties.

10.) Allies deliberately attack Karenko.

25 Japanese Casualties.

718 Allied Casualties.


Attached below as a link is the entire Combat Report for October 30, 1943.

Best Regards,

-Terry


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/17/2018 3:57:09 AM   
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Rio: The beauty of barges is they are created like PT boats. Just look at the base screen and if you have enough supply on hand, it'll have a button called something like "Create Barge TF." Aircraft usually don't even touch them, but they are vulnerable to surface and subsurface engagement.

Cheers,
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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/18/2018 7:05:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

Rio: The beauty of barges is they are created like PT boats. Just look at the base screen and if you have enough supply on hand, it'll have a button called something like "Create Barge TF." Aircraft usually don't even touch them, but they are vulnerable to surface and subsurface engagement.

Cheers,
CC


Command Cody-

Yes, I looked on the base screens at Amoy and Pescadores and made some barges.

I will transfer the marines by barge now.

Thank you, Commander Cody.

Best Regards,

-Terry


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/18/2018 7:33:41 PM   
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After Action Report

for October 31, 1943



Highlights for Today


1.) El Lobo boots the Allies out of Karenko (Formosa).

2.) Though there were several battles in several locations today, all the battles were minor with minimal casualties being inflicted.


Synopsis of Combat Action for Today


1.) Allied CLs bombard Pagan.

10 Japanese casualties.

1 hit (Airbase).
4 hits (Runway).
1 hit (Port).


No Allied losses.

2.) Allies bomb Moulmein.

40 Japanese casualties.

1 destroyed (Ki-45 KAIa Nick).
1 destroyed (A6M5 Zero).


1 destroyed and 1 damaged (B-17F Fortress).
2 damaged (B-17E Fortress).
9 damaged (B-25C Mitchell).
4 damaged (B-25D1 Mitchell).
2 damaged (B-26 Marauder).


3.) Allies bomb due west of Paoshan.

14 Japanese casualties.

1 destroyed (J2M3 Jack).
4 destroyed (Ki-45 KAIa Nick).
1 destroyed (Ki-44-IIc Tojo).


2 destroyed (P-47D2 Thunderbolt).
1 destroyed and 8 damaged (B-24D1 Liberator).


4.) Japanese bomb Chungking.

No Japanese losses.

18 hits (Manpower).
12,586 (Fires).


5.) Japanese bomb Takao.

1 damaged (G4M1 Betty).
2 damaged (B-49-IIb Helen).


8 damaged (B-24J Liberator).

6.) Japanese bomb near Pagan.

1 destroyed and 1 damaged (G3M3 Nell).

No Allied losses.

7.) Allies bomb Pagan.

6 Japanese casualties.

1 destroyed (N1K1-J George).
1 destroyed (H6K5 Mavis).

13 hits (Airbase).
2 hits (Airbase Supply).
17 hits (Runway).
6 hits (Port).
2 hits (Port Supply).


5 damaged (B-24D1 Liberator).
12 damaged (PB4Y-1 Liberator).
3 damaged (PV-1 Ventura).


8.) Japanese deliberately attack Karenko.

32 Japanese casualties.

489 Allied casualties.
Allies retreat.


9.) Allies bombard due west of Paoshan.

132 Japanese casualties.

4 Allied casualties.


Attached below as a link is the entire Combat Report for October 31, 1943.

Best Regards,

-Terry


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 1/18/2018 8:27:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Commander Cody

Rio: The beauty of barges is they are created like PT boats. Just look at the base screen and if you have enough supply on hand, it'll have a button called something like "Create Barge TF." Aircraft usually don't even touch them, but they are vulnerable to surface and subsurface engagement.

Cheers,
CC


Command Cody-

Yes, I looked on the base screens at Amoy and Pescadores and made some barges.

I will transfer the marines by barge now.

Thank you, Commander Cody.

Best Regards,

-Terry




The Allies call them Landing Craft. Its the Japs that call them barges.

At the bottom of the ship reinforcement screen there is a display count of available PT boats, Landing Craft and Motor Gun Boats.

The Allied landing craft are a highly varied lot from LCTs to LCMs to LCVPs with varying capacities. You get no control over what type you get.


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