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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 4/30/2018 7:44:07 AM

Rio Bravo

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After Action Report

for January 9, 1944

Highlights for Today

1.) Operation Hello El Lobo has arrived at its destination 40 miles due west of Pescadores.

2.) For the third straight day heavy air and naval combat occurred within the vicinity of Formosa.

3.) El Lobo's Kamikaze's hit the Operation Hello El Lobo Fleet and damaged some transports; few allied troops were lost. Japanese Kamikaze's are indeed tricky: I had not known before today that Kamikazes can bounce off an Allied ship and hit the same Allied ship again; the Kamikazes inflicted 4 hits on DD Calwell, but only 3 Oscars were destroyed.

4.) El Lobo went after Allied DDs and hurt 12 of them

5.) El Lobo lost 104 aircraft today whereas the Allies only lost 5.

Synopsis of Combat Action for Today

1.) The substantial amount of naval and air combat today presents a rather time consuming task to relay such combat activities by individual locations of battle. A task this scribe is far too lazy to tackle this morning. Accordingly, I will present the combined losses for today, under the following categories as follows:

Casualties

576 Japanese casualties.
23 Allied casualties.

Base Hits (Pagan and Batan)

31 hits (Airbase).
5 hits (Airbase Supply).
73 hits (Runway).
29 hits (Port).
4 hits (Fuel).
9 hits (Port Supply).

No Allied bases were hit.

Aircraft Losses

61 Japanese Aircraft damaged.
7 Allied Aircraft damaged.

104 Japanese Aircraft destroyed.
5 Allied Aircraft destroyed.

Ships Sunk or Damaged

27 Japanese Ships Sunk or Damaged:

CL Kuma: 1 shell hit.
CL Natori: 3 shell hits.
DD Uzuki: 1 shell hit.
DD Yudachi: 1 shell hit.
DD Mutsuki: 1 shell hit.
DD Sawakaze: 1 shell hit.
DD Yamangiri: 1 shell hit.
DD Asashimo: 2 shell hits; on fire.
DD Fubuki: 5 shell hits; heavy damage.
DD Mishishio: 1 shell hit; 1 torpedo hit; on fire; heavy damage.
DD Uruyuke: 8 shell hits; heavy fires; heavy damage.
DD Kosugiri: 1 shell hit; 1 torpedo hit; sunk.
SS I-159: 2 hits.
SS I-21: 9 hits.
E Fuyo: 2 shell hits.
E Karukaya: 1 shell hit; on fire.
E W-24: 5 shell hits; 1 torpedo hit; sunk.
E W-33: 8 shell hits; sunk.
PB Urashio: Maru: 1 torpedo hit; on fire; heavy damage.
PB Yodozo Maru: 8 shell hits; sunk.
PB Santos Maru: 19 shell hits; sunk.
SC CHa-24: 1 torpedo hit; heavy damage.
TK Reiri Maru: 2 torpedo hits; heavy fires; heavy damage.
xAP Katori Maru: 4 torpedo hits; heavy damage.
xAK Eli Maru: 2 torpedo hits; on fire; heavy damage.
xAK Sinkyo MAru: 2 shell hits; sunk.
xAK Hamburg MAru: 28 shell hits; sunk.

31 Allied Ships Sunk or Damaged:

BB North Carolina: 1 torpedo hit.
DD Cummings: 1 shell hit.
DD Mustin: 1 shell hit.
DD Downes: 1 shell hit.
DD Gansevoort: 1 shell hit.
DD Hobby: 1 shell hit.
DD Doyle: 1 shell hit.
DD Stuart: 1 shell hit.
DD Selfridge: 1 shell hit; on fire.
DD Baldwin: 1 shell hit; on fire.
DD Laffey: 2 shell hits; on fire.
DD Kalk: 4 shell hits; on fire.
DD Gillespie: 12 shell hits; heavy fires.
DD Ellet: 2 shell hits; heavy fires.
DD Woodworth: heavy fires; heavy damage.
DD Balch: 3 shell hits; heavy fires; heavy damage.
DD Benham: 3 shell hits; heavy fires; heavy damage.
DD Hughes: 2 shell hits; 1 bomb hit; heavy fires; heavy damage.
DD Caldwell: 4 Kamikaze hits; sunk.
SS Harder: 1 hit.
SS Pogy: 2 hits.
SS Pampanito: 10 hits.
SS Lapan: 5 hits; heavy damage.
AP Gen. A.E. Anderson: 1 Kamikaze hit.
APA La Salle: 1 bomb hit.
APA Custer: 1 bomb hit.
xAP Boschfontein: 1 Kamikaze hit.
xAP St. Mihel: 1 bomb hit; on fire.
xAP Cape Newenham: 1 kamikaze hit: on fire.
xAP Neptuna: 1 Kamikaze hit: heavy damage.
xAP Hong Siang: 2 bomb hits; heavy fires; heavy damage.

Attached as a link below is the entire Combat Report for January 9, 1944.

Best Regards,

-Terry

Attachment (1)

_____________________________

"No one throws me my own guns and tells me to run. No one."

-Bret (James Coburn); The Magnificent Seven

(in reply to Rio Bravo)

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/1/2018 4:00:15 AM

Rio Bravo

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After Action Report

for January 10, 1944

Highlights for Today

1.) Operation Hello El Lobo commenced unloading Allied troops, aircraft, fuel, and supply at Amoy, Pescadores, and Takao.

2.) El Lobo launched numerous and vicious air attacks against the Hello El Lobo Fleet with both KB and land based fighters, dive bombers, and torpedo bombers. El Lobo's air onslaught heavily damaged one Allied BB, set on fire and heavily damaged one CVL, and put one torpedo into each of four CVs and one CVL without inflicting any fire or heavy damage.

3.) The Allies destroyed 150 Japanese aircraft and damaged 66 Japanese aircraft: 70 Bombers (Jill and Judy) 80 fighters (primarily A6M5 Zero and N1K1-J George) destroyed. The Allies lost 23 aircraft and had 17 aircraft damaged: 17 fighters and 6 land-based bombers destroyed.

4.) The vast majority of the combat action centered around Formosa.

Synopsis of Combat Action Today

1.) The substantial amount of naval and air combat today presents a rather time consuming task to relay such combat activities by individual locations of battle. A task this scribe is far too lazy to tackle this morning. Accordingly, I will present the combined losses for today, under the following categories as follows:

Casualties

1,665 Japanese casualties.
127 Allied casualties.

Aircraft Losses

150 Japanese Aircraft destroyed.
23 Allied Aircraft destroyed.

66 Japanese Aircraft damaged.
17 Allied Aircraft damaged.

Ships Sunk or Damaged

10 Japanese Ships Sunk or Damaged:

DD Fubukai: heavy damage.
DD Yamanagiri: 3 shell hits; 1 torpedo hit; heavy fires; heavy damage.
SS I-18: 3 hits.
SS-I19: 3 hits.
E Etoforu: 1 shell hit.
E Kanju: 3 shell hits; on fire.
E Mikuza: 19 shell hits; heavy fires; heavy damage.
LSD Shinshu Maru: 1 torpedo hit.
xAK Kamoi Maru: 1 torpedo hit; heavy damage.
xAK China Maru: 1 torpedo hit; on fire; heavy damage.

17 Allied Ships Sunk or Damaged:

CV Bunker Hill: 1 torpedo hit.
CV Wasp: 1 torpedo hit.
CV Yorktown: 1 torpedo hit.
CV Yorktown II: 1 torpedo hit.
CVL Cowpens: 1 torpedo hit.
CVL Belleau Woods: 1 torpedo hit; on fire; heavy damage.
BB South Dakota: 2 torpedo hits; heavy damage.
DD Perkins: 1 shell hit.
DD Sproston: 1 torpedo hit; on fire; heavy damage.
DE McConnell: 1 bomg hit; on fire.
SS Spearfish: 1 hit.
SS Pompano: 1 hit.
SS Skipjack: 2 hits.
SS Strahead: 2 hits.
SS 020: 6 hits.
YMS-139: 1 torpedo hit; sunk.
xAK Cape Ann: 1 bomb hit; on fire.

Attached below as a link is the entire Combat Report for January 10, 1944.

Best Regards,

-Terry

Attachment (1)

_____________________________

"No one throws me my own guns and tells me to run. No one."

-Bret (James Coburn); The Magnificent Seven

(in reply to Rio Bravo)

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/4/2018 3:59:02 PM

Rio Bravo

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After Action Report

for January 11, 1944

Highlight for Today

1.) The Allies sent its carriers out in an effort to engage El Lobo's carriers, but El Lobo's carriers escaped any engagement.

Synopsis of Combat Action for Today

The vast majority of the combat action today once again occurred within close proximity to Formosa. The consolidated results for today are as follows:

Casualties

795 Japanese casualties.
111 Allied casualties.

Aircraft Losses

27 Japanese Aircraft destroyed.
15 Allied Aircraft destroyed

17 Japanese Aircraft damaged.
16 Allied Aircraft damaged.

Ship Losses

10 Japanese Ships Sunk or Damaged:

DD Fubaki: heavy damage.
SS I-8: 4 hits.
PB Shuko Maru #5: 1 torpedo hit; heavy damage.
SC CHa-59: 1 torpedo hit; heavy damage.
SC Cha-37: 1 bomb hit: heavy fires; heavy damage.
SC CHa-24: 1 torpedo hit; sunk.
SC CHa-45: 1 bomb hit: sunk.
LSD Shinshu Maru: 1 torpedo hit.
xAK Manko Maru: 1 torpedo hit; heavy damage.
xAK Oregon Maru: 1 torpedo hit: on fire; heavy damage.

9 Allied Ships Sunk or Damaged:

DD Cotton: 2 torpedo hits:; sunk.
SS Batfish: 1hit.
SS 019: 2 hits.
SS Billfish: 3 hits.
SS KXVIII: 3 hits.
SS Gurnard: 4 hits.
SS Searaven: 5 hits.
SS Hake: 6 hits.
SS Greeling: 9 hits.

Attached below as a link is the entire Combat Report for January 11, 1944.

Best Regards,

-Terry

Attachment (1)

_____________________________

"No one throws me my own guns and tells me to run. No one."

-Bret (James Coburn); The Magnificent Seven

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/7/2018 4:29:18 AM

Rio Bravo

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After Action Report

for January 12, 1944

Highlights for Today

1.) All of Operation Hello El Lobo's ground forces and aircraft have successfully unloaded at Amoy, Pescadores, and Takao.

2.) Amoy and Pescadores have been secure. Formosa is now secure.

3.) In a few days, after aircraft have recovered from damage form being transported, the Allies will own the air above Formosa and the sea surrounding Formosa. The Allies have over 400 fighters, 3 Helldiver squadrons, 12 Dauntless Dive Bomber squadrons, two Avenger Torpedo squadrons, and over 300 level bombers scattered between Kukong. Kanhsien, Amoy, Pescadores, Kagi, and Takao.

4.) El Lobo deliberately attacked Kagi suffering close to 18,000 Japanese casualties while inflicting a tad over 1,000 Allied casualties.

5.) The Haggard Group continues to put a deep dent into Japanese ship assets.

Synopsis of Combat Action for Today

1.) Allied Naval Bombardment at Pagan.

125 Japanese casualties.
1 damaged (H8K2 Emily).
3 hits (Airbase).
15 hits (Runway).
3 hits (Port).
1 hit (Port Supply).

No Allied losses.

2.) Allied DD Sinks a Japanese SC CH near and PB near Taihoku (hex 88,62).

SC CH 20: 11 shell hits; sunk.
PB Genmei MAru: 4 shell hits; 1 torpedo hit; sunk.

No Allied losses.

3.) Naval Surface Combat near Iriomote (hexes 90,63 and 90,64).

CL Oyando: 3 shell hits.
CL Tama: 3 shell hits.

DD Buchanan: 1 shell hit.
DD Gansevoort: 1 shell hit.
DD Carmick: 1 shell hit.
DD Frankford: 2 shell hits.
DD Arron Ward: 2 shell hits; on fire.

4.) Japanese DD Hits Allied SS near Koshiki-jima Retto (hex 100,60).

No Japanese losses.

SS Sand Lance: 2 hits.

5.) Allied SS Pierces Japanese xAK near Tanegashima (hex 102,62).

xAK Satsuma Maru: 2 torpedo hits; on fire; heavy damage.

No Allied losses.

6.) Allies SS Ventilates Japanese xAKL near Tanegashima (hex 102,63).

xAKL Hotsukawa Maru: 2 torpedo hits; heavy fires; heavy damage.

No Allied losses.

7.) Allied DD Hits Japanese SS near Daito Shoto (hex 107,62).

SS I-40: 2 hits.

No Allied losses.

8.) Japanese E Boat Hits Allied SS near Kachi (hex 107,62).

No Japanese losses.

SS Plunger: 2 hits.

9.) Allies Bomb Woleai.

1 hit (Airbase).
6 hits (Runway).

No Allied losses.

10.) Allies Bomb Moulmein.

16 Japanese casualties.

2 destroyed (Ki-44-IIc Tojo).
1 destroyed (Ki-84a Frank).

2 damaged (B-25C Mitchell).
1 damaged (B-25D1 Mitchell).

11.) Japanese Bomb near Kunming.

1 damaged (Ki-49-IIb Helen).

No Allied losses.

12.) Japanese Bomb Chaochow.

6 damaged (Ki-49-IIb Helen).

109 Chinese casualties.

13.) Japanese Bomb Allied Carriers near Amoy (hex 83,61).

2 destroyed (G4M1 Betty).

No Allied losses.

14.) Japanese Deliberately Attack Kagi.

17,961 Japanese casualties.

1,021 Allied casualties.
Fort reduced to level 3.

15.) Allied Artillery Bombards near Tsuyung (hex 67,45).

132 Japanese casualties.

7 Allied casualties.

16.) Allied Artillery Bombardment near Takao (hex 85,66).

85 Japanese casualties.

No Allied losses.

Attached below as a link is the entire Combat Report for January 12, 1944.

Best Regards,

-Terry

Attachment (1)

_____________________________

"No one throws me my own guns and tells me to run. No one."

-Bret (James Coburn); The Magnificent Seven

(in reply to Rio Bravo)

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/8/2018 1:36:32 PM

Rio Bravo

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After Action Report

for January 13, 1944

Highlight for Today

The Evil Emperor sunk two Allied destroyers. Otherwise, it was a relatively slow day.

Synopsis of Combat Events for Today

1.) Allied Naval Bombardment at Pagan.

11 Japanese casualties.
2 hits (Airbase).
6 hits (Runway).
4 hits (Port).

No Allied losses.

2.) Jack & Jill Sink Two Allied DDs near Iriomote (hex 90,64).

9 damaged (B6N2 Jill).
3 destroyed (J2M2 Jack).

1 destroyed (P-47D2 Thunderbolt).
DD Aaron Ward: 1 torpedo hit; sunk.
DD Frankford: 1 torpedo hit; sunk.

3.) Allies Bomb Moulmein.

1 destroyed (A6M5 Zero).
1 destroyed (Ki-43-IIb Oscar).
3 destroyed (Ki-44-IIc Tojo).
1 destroyed (Ki-84a Frank).

5 damaged (B-25C Mitchell).
3 damaged (B-25D1 Mitchell).

4.) Japanese Bomb near Kunming (hex 71,48).

2 damaged (Ki-49-IIb Helen).

36 Chinese casualties.

5.) Japanese Bomb near Chaochow.

8 damaged (Ki-49-IIb Helen).

19 U.S. Marine Corps casualties.

6.) Allies Bomb Chaochow.

14 Japanese casualties.

2 destroyed (B-24J Liberator).

7.) Allied Artillery Bombards near Tsuyung (hex 67,45).

124 Japanese casualties.

19 Allied casualties.

8.) Allied Artillery Bombards near Takao (hex 85,66).

41 Japanese casualties.

No Allied losses.

Attached below as a link is the entire Combat Report for January 13, 1944.

Best Regards,

-Terry

Attachment (1)

_____________________________

"No one throws me my own guns and tells me to run. No one."

-Bret (James Coburn); The Magnificent Seven

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/11/2018 9:17:17 PM

Rio Bravo

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Japan Surrenders

January 14, 1944

According to recent communications with Evil El Lobo, Japan capitulates for the following five main reasons:

1.) Japan's "Magic Highway" in China had been severed by the Allies in China significantly decreasing the amount of supply flowing to Japan's Home Islands.

2.) Japanese forces were on the defense and in retreat in China.

3.) Upon the Allies managing to reinforce Formosa, Formosa had turned into a huge Prisoner of War camp for the Japanese forces on Formosa.

4.) Japan was out of reserves.

5.) Allied production capability would continue to be massive, leaving Japan with no hope for the future.

This war was much, much closer than it appears at first glance. Had either of the following two situations turned in favor of Japan, the Allies would have been the ones in big trouble:

1.) It was very close as to whether Chungking could suffer the siege of Japanese forces. The Allies barely managed to push north from Amoy, cut the "Magic Highway," and force Japan to divert aircraft and ground forces from Chungking to halt the Allied advance north toward Chungking and west toward Paoshan. The Allies simply won the footrace by mere inches. Had Chungking fell into Japanese hands, there was an excellent chance that Japanese forces would have swarmed out of Chungking and knocked the Allies back to Amoy and back to Burma.

2.) The Allies also barely managed to reinforce Formosa prior to Japan booting the Allies completely off of Formosa. Both El Lobo and I figured that if the Allies had not been able to reinforce Formosa for an additional two weeks, it would have been Japan that owned Formosa, not the Allies. Had Japan managed to boot the Allies off Formosa, it would have been extremely bloody for the Allies to supply Allied troops in China.

Accordingly, the advantage in this war could have quite easily gone either way until January 12, 1944 when the Allied reinforcement of Formosa secured Formosa for the Allies.

Although Captain Haggard and I have extensive experience playing war games going back as far as our college days together at the University of California at Santa Barbara during 1971 whereas El Lobo had absolutely zero experience with war games until this war between us. I faced a quick learner, a formidable foe; was challenged and nervous the entire time up to date the Allies secured Formosa.

El Lobo was under considerable and intense pressure from the Allies since the Allies captured Saipan, Tinian, Rota, and Guam in the Marianas Islands in June of 1943. With the taking of the four southern Marianas Islands, the Allies opened a wide range of invasion opportunities. Japan had no way of knowing exactly where the Allies might strike next and they did not have the assets to adequately protect a multiple of key Allied invasion sites. Further, the Allies had the advantage of knowing exactly where they were heading from day one of the war and had prepared best they could to pursue their objectives. Yet, El Lobo met the Allied onslaught and threw everything Japan had left at Formosa and was damn near successful in driving the Allies into the sea. Japan was simply unable to rally quick enough to get the job done before the Allies reinforced Formosa.

Further, I believe that the element of "Surprise" was a huge factor in this war. El Lobo did not expect the Allies to invade Burma on October 15, 1942 with such a substantial force. Nor did El Lobo expect the Allies to invade the Marianas Islands in mid June of 1943 nor Formosa in mid September of 1943. I sincerely doubt many, if any, Japanese Emperor would have anticipated such early invasions at the Marianas Islands and Formosa, Pescadores, and Amoy China.

In conclusion, I want to express my honest and sincere gratitude to the developers of this game and to those of The War College that assisted the Allies in prosecuting the war. The developers provided the vehicle and those of you that attended The War College taught me how to drive the vehicle. Combined, all of you played a part in providing so many hours of fun for me.

Lastly, I want to thank El Lobo; a good friend and a deadly foe.

Attached below is the Strategic Map as of January 14, 1944.

Best Regards,

-Terry

Attachment (1)

< Message edited by Rio Bravo -- 5/11/2018 9:52:41 PM >

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/11/2018 10:04:24 PM

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Gentlemen of the War College,

I too wish to congratulate El Lobo for playing a great game. Every time I thought I had struck upon a vulnerability during our Sub vs. ASW campaigns, or during our prolonged small boat skirmishes, he would counter with tactics and quick responses that soon made me yearn for "the barn."

And how the hell did he elude my sub dragnet with his CVs�not once, not twice, but three times, all in the last weeks. I swear I had him covered; there was no way he could cruise his CV TFs through my cordons undetected. But he did, again and again and again.

I want to thank Admiral Bravo for allowing me to join the game.

As I knew he would, he does thing his way. But he always gave me complete freedom of operations with any assets he assigned me. I cringe when I think of the errors I made out of the chute, but he let me learn the ropes without critique.

And finally, Gentlemen, I thank you for your courteousness and your patience and most of all, your knowledge and expertise. Your input was incredibly valuable all through these past campaigns.

Bon voyage,

Hag

< Message edited by CaptHaggard -- 5/11/2018 10:05:25 PM >

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/12/2018 6:01:20 AM

BBfanboy

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Congrats to all of you for a hard fought effort and a good AAR! I thought in some cases you dove too deep too fast without securing your rear areas, and you did lose more ships and aircraft because of that, but you definitely gained good strategic ground and forced the attrition the Japanese could not afford.
Splice the Mainbrace!

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/12/2018 6:28:45 AM

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Congrats!

Great game and great AAR.

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Me, studying for a PHD entry exam in Applied Mathematics.

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/12/2018 12:10:38 PM

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I'm glad you guys are friends. I'd be a little miffed not being able to use the apex weapons of the Pacific war. Well done and congratulations!
ps. Don't think twice, it's alright. (heard that somewhere)

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/13/2018 9:41:05 PM

Rio Bravo

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Captain Haggard-

El Lobo and I talked on the phone about his tactics to avoid your Submarine "nets".

He advised that he saw your submarines coming and that he would take off at "Fast" speed to avoid being trapped.

Also, we didn't sight his carriers move from the Bonin Islands until they showed at Naha because he sent his carriers due north to Japan, then skirted Japan southwest to the very southwestern tip of Japan and then moved them to Naha.

Lastly, he told me that one of his biggest fears in the war was your submarine operations.

I told you that he was a Sneaky Rat Bastard.

*laughing*

Your pal,

-Terry

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/13/2018 9:50:04 PM

Rio Bravo

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Congrats to all of you for a hard fought effort and a good AAR! I thought in some cases you dove too deep too fast without securing your rear areas, and you did lose more ships and aircraft because of that, but you definitely gained good strategic ground and forced the attrition the Japanese could not afford.
Splice the Mainbrace!

BB-

I had the same concerns as you that the Allies were striking too deep, too early, too many times with their rear lines completely unprotected. For long periods in the war on numerous occasions, Pearl Harbor had a garrison of under 100.

The Allies took several calculated risks and barely managed to skid past El Lobo by the skin of their nose.

Best Regards,

-Terry

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"No one throws me my own guns and tells me to run. No one."

-Bret (James Coburn); The Magnificent Seven

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/13/2018 9:52:50 PM

Rio Bravo

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tarkalak

Congrats!

Great game and great AAR.

tarkalak-

Thank you for your kind words.

It was important to both Captain Haggard and myself that our war with El Lobo would be fun for everyone.

To that end, we tried our best to make the war and our AAR interesting and fun.

Best Regards,

-Terry

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"No one throws me my own guns and tells me to run. No one."

-Bret (James Coburn); The Magnificent Seven

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/13/2018 10:03:39 PM

Rio Bravo

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quote:

ORIGINAL: zuluhour

I'm glad you guys are friends. I'd be a little miffed not being able to use the apex weapons of the Pacific war. Well done and congratulations!
ps. Don't think twice, it's alright. (heard that somewhere)

Zulu-

Your name scares me. *chuckling*

Yes, the three of us are very good friends. I have known El Lobo since I was 12 or 13 years old (1963 or 1964) when he and my brother met and worked together as California State Firefighters. I have known Captain Haggard since 1971 when we met while attending college at the University of California at Santa Barabara.

We have had lots of fun through the many years, had fun with this war, and I look forward to many more good times with them in the future.

I'm not miffed at all. I had fun being patient, saving every toothbrush I could for the Allied Grand Strategy to drive deep into the heart of Japan at an early date.

Umm, what are the apex weapons?

Best Regards,

-Terry

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"No one throws me my own guns and tells me to run. No one."

-Bret (James Coburn); The Magnificent Seven

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/13/2018 11:33:21 PM

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Hi Admiral Bravo and Captain Haggard.

I have started reading your AAR. Very well written, informative, and very funny. As to your dedication, your dad would have been proud. Great job.

It will take me a couple of days to completely read it but I thought I would drop by and congratulate you guys on your victory.

You had a very bold plan, the convictions to carry it through, and it paid-off. Your playing was superb and your tenacity was quite irritating.

You were great opponents.

This was a fun game and I am sure that the fun will continue as we rehash it and what-if it for a long time to come.

This was a well deserved victory. Congratulations again and thanks for the good times.

Your Bud,

El Lobo

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El Lobo (J) vs Rio Bravo (A)
Rio Bravo's AAR - "The War College"
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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/14/2018 12:42:50 AM

adarbrauner

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I understand the situation El lobo was put in, and capitulation- or opening of negotiations - were an understandable epilogue of those, but still Japan wasn't finished yet;

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/14/2018 12:44:44 AM

Bif1961

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Congrats on your victory it was a close run thing with your invasion of Formosa, a daring move.

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/14/2018 12:11:20 PM

Rio Bravo

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ORIGINAL: el lobo

Hi Admiral Bravo and Captain Haggard.

I have started reading your AAR. Very well written, informative, and very funny. As to your dedication, your dad would have been proud. Great job.

It will take me a couple of days to completely read it but I thought I would drop by and congratulate you guys on your victory.

You had a very bold plan, the convictions to carry it through, and it paid-off. Your playing was superb and your tenacity was quite irritating. You were great opponents.

This was a fun game and I am sure that the fun will continue as we rehash it and what-if it for a long time to come.

This was a well deserved victory. Congratulations again and thanks for the good times.

Your Bud,

El Lobo

El Lobo-

I hope you keep laughing all the way through reading Captain Haggard's and my AAR. I think I called you every low down dirty rotten name I could think of considering you were a pain in my ass the entire game.

*laughing hard*

Your pal,

-Terry

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/14/2018 12:21:37 PM

Rio Bravo

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ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

I understand the situation El lobo was put in, and capitulation- or opening of negotiations - were an understandable epilogue of those, but still Japan wasn't finished yet;

adarbrauner-

I agree with you.

I don't believe the Allies sunk a single Japanese carrier.

Japan was by no means decimated and would have continued to bloody my nose.

However, as El Lobo put it to me, "The Writing was on the wall." To have continued the game would not have been anymore fun for either El Lobo or me.

Best Regards,

-Terry

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/14/2018 12:26:37 PM

Rio Bravo

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ORIGINAL: Bif1961

Congrats on your victory it was a close run thing with your invasion of Formosa, a daring move.

Bif-

Thank you for the congratulations and all your help during the war.

I agree, Formosa was extremely close and could have gone either way.

To a rather large degree, this war turned because the Allies had "good luck" on their side.

Best Regards,

-Terry

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/14/2018 12:51:53 PM

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Well done! Really interesting game with lots of theatrical moments where the war hanged by a thread or seemed to!

Very enjoyable.

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/14/2018 4:05:33 PM

adarbrauner

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El Lobo decision was wise;

however, the match in China was all but decided for your side; ditto in Formosa; your recent reinforcement was ceirtanly a big probem, rendering the resupply and reinforcement of Japanese garrison very difficult in the short term, but in the medium-long term the game was still open;

and, Japanese were known for their not sound approaches and trends....

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/15/2018 9:09:18 AM

Rio Bravo

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ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

El Lobo decision was wise;

however, the match in China was all but decided for your side; ditto in Formosa; your recent reinforcement was ceirtanly a big probem, rendering the resupply and reinforcement of Japanese garrison very difficult in the short term, but in the medium-long term the game was still open;

and, Japanese were known for their not sound approaches and trends....

adarbrauner-

Thank you for following our war.

-Best Regards,

-Terry

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/15/2018 9:11:59 AM

Rio Bravo

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

Well done! Really interesting game with lots of theatrical moments where the war hanged by a thread or seemed to!

Very enjoyable.

Lowpe-

Thanks Lowpe; appreciate your kind words.

At times it seemed more like I was dangling from a noose of a rope.

Best Regards,

-Terry

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/15/2018 3:41:16 PM

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Thank you gentlemen....an AAR as a newbie is a daunting task. You did well to "keep it up". I'm sure you learned a lot in the process. Thanks for the effort.

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/15/2018 3:47:19 PM

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Regardless of the winner, I have thoroughly enjoyed the read.

Well done gentlemen.

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/16/2018 7:40:07 PM

Rio Bravo

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ORIGINAL: pontiouspilot

Thank you gentlemen....an AAR as a newbie is a daunting task. You did well to "keep it up". I'm sure you learned a lot in the process. Thanks for the effort.

pontiouspilot-

At times, it did seem like a chore to keep up with the AAR; time consuming too.

However, it was mostly fun interacting with everyone and learning from everyone gracious enough to give me sage and sound advice.

Best Regards,

-Terry

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/16/2018 7:42:55 PM

Rio Bravo

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ORIGINAL: Ian R

Regardless of the winner, I have thoroughly enjoyed the read.

Well done gentlemen.

Ian R-

I am pleased that you enjoyed Captain Haggard's and my AAR.

Even though El Lobo caused me more than a few restless nights, overall, I had a swell time fighting that Sneaky Rat Bastard.

Best Regards,

-Terry

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/19/2018 2:21:55 PM

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Mr. Bravo,

As a novice WitP player, I have learned a bunch from the dual AARs from you/Capt.Haggard & El Lobo. I was fully engaged from start to finish. Congrats to all three of you, and I look forward to following your next endeavors.

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Excellent!
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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 5/23/2018 1:14:58 AM

Rio Bravo

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ORIGINAL: Schlussel

Mr. Bravo,

As a novice WitP player, I have learned a bunch from the dual AARs from you/Capt.Haggard & El Lobo. I was fully engaged from start to finish. Congrats to all three of you, and I look forward to following your next endeavors.

Schussel-

Welcome to The War College!

I also learned a bunch while wading through this war with El Lobo.

Such a complex game laced with tons of nuances.

Thank you for following our war and wishing me the best with future endeavors.

Best Regards,

-Terry

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