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OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 1:55:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, this is a no politics zone. I'm going to let rip on one of mine, but hold back on the rest, (for now). I've got a lot of issues with commercials these days. I know you UKers and others around the globe may not get this, cause you're not exposed to these. Please try to bear with me.

There are these pharmaceutical commercials running now (in the US) saying 'if you're talking to your doctor about a biologic, this is H*mira. This is H*mira making me feel better... blah blah blah'. Biologic is not a noun. If it were a noun, I'd be a biologic, a human would be a biologic, a cockroach and a tree would be biologics. Let's just say this: if your doctor is talking to you about a biologic, you need to get a new doctorl

This reminds me of a shampoo commercial a few years back that claimed that the shampoo had "active naturals" in it. What in the heck would an "active natural" be? Natural is not a noun either. Do these ad people think we're all imbeciles? Or just the gorns? Prior to that idiocy, another shampoo maker was claiming their shampoo contained "botanicals". Botanical isn't a noun either. Oh dear.

I'm going to hold off beginning my next rant (on car commercials) until others have the chance to comment on my rant or start their own. No politics or religion please.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 2:04:48 AM   
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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 2:16:12 AM   
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That's what the mute button on the remote is for. I mute all comercials!!!


I'm afraid that's just too sophisticated for a gorn like me. Is there nothing proactive we can do?

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 2:17:11 AM   
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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 2:20:12 AM   
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This would probably be better on the General Discussion thread, but then not all of this crowd visits that forum.

Bill


I was there once.


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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 2:21:00 AM   
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That's what the mute button on the remote is for. I mute all comercials!!!


I'm afraid that's just too sophisticated for a gorn like me. Is there nothing proactive we can do?


Not that I can think of offhand.


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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 2:22:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know... but why is a Gorn watching shampoo commercial?
It seem a little deviant to say the least. Do you know Alex Jones?

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 2:25:03 AM   
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That's what the mute button on the remote is for. I mute all comercials!!!


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I'm afraid that's just too sophisticated for a gorn like me. Is there nothing proactive we can do?


How did Gorns manage space flight when they couldn't figure out a remote control?

Never watch anything in real time and fast forward through the commercials. More time efficient too.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 2:34:06 AM   
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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 2:47:58 AM   
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I don't know... but why is a Gorn watching shampoo commercial?
It seem a little deviant to say the least. Do you know Alex Jones?



Because we're watching you very carefully. I know my scales frizz out a bit but (bleep bleep bleep bleep) and we need to keep up appearances, but jeez.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 3:10:28 AM   
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Never watch anything in real time and fast forward through the commercials. More time efficient too.


Then when will I get my turns in.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 11:02:54 AM   
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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 11:08:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Looking for good stuff and seeing the History Channel has crap like "Ancient Aliens" or "Nazi and UFOs". Four letter words at a high volume. Where is the "World at war" MARATHON?

My wife doesn't quite get me...

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 11:21:07 AM   
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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 12:20:55 PM   
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The simple fact is that people are stupid and fall for this pseudo science nonsense, which is why advertisers charge for them, firms pay for them and we as consumers actually pay for our own stupidity.

Roger

A friend of mine at work once pointed out (not totally untrue)that the average person in this world is just barely smart enough to get by. We know about our own tiny piece of the universe and are completely reliant on others to guide us through the rest. Scott Adams (Dilbert) took this a step further with the idea that you don't even have to be smart about something; you just need to know 1% more than the other guy, and then the other guy can't tell the difference. It's how most of the economy functions.

Car salesmen suck thousands of dollars out of your pockets for that sunroof to counteract the air conditioning, but can't balance their own checkbook. Gorns buy shampoo. Doctors invest their money in technology stocks, and programmers invest in pharmaceutical stocks.

Ah, thanks Gorn, for the nice Saturday morning rant!



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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 2:21:50 PM   
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Looking for good stuff and seeing the History Channel has crap like "Ancient Aliens" or "Nazi and UFOs". Four letter words at a high volume. Where is the "World at war" MARATHON?

My wife doesn't quite get me...



Most of you do not remember the "good ol' days" when a TV series had 24+ episodes per season to keep the viewers interest, whereas today, many only have **TEN** and obligate the airways and cable to countless re-runs..

I am positive if the FCC stopped all "long term cable contracts", and we could watch channels by the month...those re-runs would go by the wayside overnight.
I do write the advertisers about this, and make it clear I "vote with my dollars"......

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 2:32:48 PM   
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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 3:26:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Geoff, it isn't so very uncommon in English for adjectives to become nouns for collectives. Biologic is an accepted industry usage as a noun for a category of drugs. It is sort of like 'Republican', originally an adjective which has changed to be used as a noun.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 5:39:12 PM   
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This would probably be better on the General Discussion thread, but then not all of this crowd visits that forum.

Bill


Send this to a real chat room, the general forum already gets too much non-war game stuff.



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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 6:10:25 PM   
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This would probably be better on the General Discussion thread, but then not all of this crowd visits that forum.

Bill


Send this to a real chat room, the general forum already gets too much non-war game stuff.


warspite1

Maybe that's why its called the General Discussion Forum and not a War Game Discussion Forum.


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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 6:24:20 PM   
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I don't know... but why is a Gorn watching shampoo commercial?
It seem a little deviant to say the least. Do you know Alex Jones?


I was looking for a mother's day gift




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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 6:36:49 PM   
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I miss the horses playing football....


Is that monkey smoking a Benson & Hedges?




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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 6:38:38 PM   
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Geoff, it isn't so very uncommon in English for adjectives to become nouns for collectives. Biologic is an accepted industry usage as a noun for a category of drugs. It is sort of like 'Republican', originally an adjective which has changed to be used as a noun.


Jargon. If it's not in the OED it doesn't exist. We can't let Madmen run the language.

Republic is Latin. I'm not sure how that works.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 6:52:28 PM   
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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 6:55:57 PM   
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This would probably be better on the General Discussion thread, but then not all of this crowd visits that forum.

Bill


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I know, I had to go there for (warspite's?) babes thread.


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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 7:04:04 PM   
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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 7:43:30 PM   
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This would probably be better on the General Discussion thread, but then not all of this crowd visits that forum.

Bill


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I know, I had to go there for (warspite's?) babes thread.

warspite1

You mean Australian Beauties

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 8:52:51 PM   
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Geoff, it isn't so very uncommon in English for adjectives to become nouns for collectives. Biologic is an accepted industry usage as a noun for a category of drugs. It is sort of like 'Republican', originally an adjective which has changed to be used as a noun.


Jargon. If it's not in the OED it doesn't exist. We can't let Madmen run the language.

Republic is Latin. I'm not sure how that works.


Biologic IS a term used in the pharma industry and by doctors every day. It is seeping into general use as the distinctions in these types of drugs become more widely known and prices decline. The OED is fine, but it lags reality a great deal.

Republic is not Latin. Res publica is Latin. A phrase itself from a semi-mangled Greek word.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 10:28:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		What would we do without know-it-alls? It's still jargon but totally tubular dude. Here's another. The greenies (though I approve of their purpose) could have coined a word to use to represent what they were talking about instead of hijacking "organic" to mean something it totally doesn't mean. Methane is effing organic. Do they only approve of methane from certain cows who only eat rutabaga leaves? Here's another, though it's only about pronunciation, our military pronounces the word cache as cashay. Sounds like pig latin. Cachet is pronounced cashay. Cache is pronounced cash which rhymes with stash, which is the same thing.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/13/2015 10:28:53 PM   
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https://www.bio.org/articles/how-do-drugs-and-biologics-differ

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