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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/28/2015 9:54:06 AM

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Methinks the Gorn needs a new opponent, so he can show us swift and merciful again.

Had my first cherry tomato from the garden yesterday, picking blackberries, blueberries, cucumbers daily now. Asparagus, Spinach has come and gone, but still lots of lettuce.

Something got in and ate some low hanging green beefsteaks. Vegetarian Gorns, I wonder?

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Slices of Irish Spring soap tied near your plants in socks son stakes should keep varmints at bay..

Do NOT try mothballs..the toxins are not healthy for people..

If the problem is ruminants, I found planting rosemary keeps the deer at bay. I also get these cartridges from a company called Sweeny's that the deer hate.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/28/2015 12:14:16 PM

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Rosemary eh? Thanks.

I have Marigolds planted with them, they help with keeping some bugs away, but I didn't know about Rosemary.

Normally the deer leave the garden alone, but rabbits, groundhogs, chipmunks, squirrels, and birds have been known to be terrors.

I planted Kiwi two years ago, and it has grown great, but something eats the fruit when very small. I put a ground fence around them last year, no joy, so this year I netted them which has worked.

Around the 4th of July every year the squirrels I believe get in and eat every peach. Here today, and gone tomorrow. My efforts at stopping this larceny have been 100% ineffective.

Any ideas for Peach protection? More netting perhaps?

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/29/2015 1:00:31 PM

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I used to grow big beefsteak tomatoes but they don't seem as acid as they used to be. Could be I'm just getting old I suppose. Old people start turning back into kids and eat stuff like Chef Boy-ar-dee and candy and crap like that. St. Louis moved south a few years back as far as planting zones go. The summer before last I think there was a stretch of six weeks where the temperature topped 100� F every day. A lot of things I used to grow won't anymore. Okra is wooden no matter when you pick them. I've tried two years in a row to grow rhubarb, it comes out of the ground and just withers. I have a friend who gave up on tomatoes too. Hot peppers grow fine (I particularly like the jalapenos) and I have some blackberry plants going. Roses still grow well (some hybrids). I used to grow squash and zucchini, might try that again. Most herbs do fine or at least in spring and fall. Tomatillos do ok.

Found this kind of late. I've never heard of a Santa Rosa Plum. Three years ago I planted a Bruce and a Gold Plum near each other for cross pollination.

Haven't borne any fruit yet. No idea how mature they have to get to start producing.

Florida is a great climate for all but cool weather crops although I do have some cabbage, cauliflower and brussel sprouts growing well so far that I am experimenting with this year.

I have the following fruit trees in my yard:

Loquat x 2
Pomegranate
Fig
Bruce Plum
Gold Plum
Ponderosa Lemon
Key Lime
Banana
Tangerine
Papaya
Nectarine

My vegetable garden is full of tomatoes, strawberries, blackberries, blueberries, and peppers of all kinds along with just about every herb under the sun.
Also trying okra, kale, Swiss chard and arugula this year.

Food from the backyard is the only way to go!

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/29/2015 10:57:46 PM

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I tried a pomegranate here. It survived the first winter, which was mild, but the next one killed it. I have two orange trees and a lemon in our greenhouse. The lemon produces, but getting the oranges to ripen correctly is tricky. I grew up in Los Angeles and we had a Santa Rosa there. It loved that climate. They grow fine here, but the springs are usually too cool to pollinate fully.

Blueberries love it here, we have 5 bushes and they are all doing well. I'm surprised they do OK in Florida, I thought they were one of those crops that needed a certain amount of cold in the winter to do OK.

I have two more plum trees that are bearing fruit for the first time. I looked up when I bought them, it was 2011, so this is the 4th year. The black amber plum has so much fruit on it I bought some poles to prop up the branches. Every branch has lots of large plums that are getting darker by the day.

We're having an abnormally hot spring, temperatures up in the 80s and 90s F before late July are rare. The plum trees love it, but the apple trees didn't set fruit quite as well. My Pippen apple (best pie apple there is IMO) put on two apples and I was watching them. I went out there one day and they were gone. The branch they were on was on the ground. Something broke off the branch. I can't figure out what, it doesn't look like anything was trying to eat the branch. It may have been a young raccoon who got out on a branch that was too thin. The branch snapped off at the main trunk and it looks like it was a quick break, it wasn't as clean as a cut from a took, but it was pretty clean for a broken branch.

I have two Honeycrisp apple trees. I've heard they are even better when allowed to fully tree ripen, but neither of them have produced yet. One won't grow because the deer keep nibbling at it. They have turned it into a bonsai. The other is getting pretty big, but it hasn't even bloomed yet. I'm hoping it does soon.

I agree home grown produce can be so much better than what you buy in the store.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/30/2015 10:52:17 AM

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There are some hybrid blueberries that are supposed to do OK in Florida.

I have three plants in containers and they struggle to produce anything.

I get a few very small berries. A handful every now and then to top a bowl of oatmeal.

Strawberries and blackberries however, love the Florida weather.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/30/2015 1:30:28 PM

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Plants?...I used to live in Frankfurt am Main roughly two blocks from The Palmengarten(The Palm Garden), where all kinds of so-called tropical plants grew outside every day, including palm trees..
Remember...Frankfurt is as far north as mid Canada, so it has proven difficult to get Midwestern Americans to believe they do grow in the snow, LOL.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/30/2015 1:52:52 PM

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My Rant hate commercials so much, I don't know if I am old fashion or futuristic or Gornistic but no TV`s for 5 years now! my PC is just fine! I get all the news I want and movies too....but with less commercials ...and no Capt Kirk Reruns.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 6/30/2015 8:57:23 PM

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and no Capt Kirk Reruns.

Hey, Capt Kirk aside, what's wrong with the original Star Trek?

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/8/2015 4:26:50 PM

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Here's a peeve: Everyday I'm on the net I'll see an ad that says "New rule in Missouri has drivers furious". How can we have a new rule every flipping day and stay furious?

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/9/2015 1:36:24 AM

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I've noticed some sites have links to fake news stories now. One I've seen on several sites is the same thing you're referring to, but it refers to Washington drivers, or occasionally Oregon drivers if their trace back of my IP address says I'm in Oregon. It's all fake trying to sell you something. It would be nice if internet ads had to be designated as such, though it would just make plugins like AdBlock a lot more effective.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/9/2015 1:16:45 PM

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O.K...Pet peeve and truth in advertising....A certain over the counter stomach acid relief tablet lauds the fact it contains calcium...O.K., problem is, the calcium NEEDS stomach acid to break it down over time....and the tablet itself fights that very stomach acid so 100% of that calcium is wasted!!..

(Got this from Consumer Reports magazine which I have read religiously since high school.)

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/9/2015 7:52:22 PM

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I have a stereo set that I haven't used in decades, every component was vetted with Consumer Reports mags. Good quality but cheapish.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/9/2015 8:52:39 PM

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Here's another. Are we tired yet of the ads that say name the drug, usually a "fat burner" takes CVS by storm?

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/9/2015 9:53:05 PM

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The simple fact is that people are stupid and fall for this pseudo science nonsense, which is why advertisers charge for them, firms pay for them and we as consumers actually pay for our own stupidity.

Roger

Is this what is called "Gruberism"?

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/9/2015 9:56:53 PM

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Well I'll tell you what works for me.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/9/2015 9:59:30 PM

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and.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/9/2015 10:57:35 PM

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O.K...Pet peeve and truth in advertising....A certain over the counter stomach acid relief tablet lauds the fact it contains calcium...O.K., problem is, the calcium NEEDS stomach acid to break it down over time....and the tablet itself fights that very stomach acid so 100% of that calcium is wasted!!..

(Got this from Consumer Reports magazine which I have read religiously since high school.)

Not only that it is calcium carbonate which is a form of calcium the body can't really absorb very well.

Consumer Reports is a good source of information for these sorts of things. I haven't been as avid a reader, but we often turn to it when researching a major purchase.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/10/2015 1:52:12 AM

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It's a good thing the bosch didn't throw uric acid at the allies instead of chlorine.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/10/2015 3:42:26 PM

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O.K...Pet peeve and truth in advertising....A certain over the counter stomach acid relief tablet lauds the fact it contains calcium...O.K., problem is, the calcium NEEDS stomach acid to break it down over time....and the tablet itself fights that very stomach acid so 100% of that calcium is wasted!!..

(Got this from Consumer Reports magazine which I have read religiously since high school.)

Not only that it is calcium carbonate which is a form of calcium the body can't really absorb very well.

Consumer Reports is a good source of information for these sorts of things. I haven't been as avid a reader, but we often turn to it when researching a major purchase.

Bill

When it first came out, the idea behind the mag was to allow actual consumers to have their own forum to voice how they felt about products.

Somebody once said the best form of advertising was "word of mouth". I strongly agree with this notion and I know it has sure helped Matrixgames over the years...Quality products, quality people...

When Wrigley gum was the biggest seller of chewing gum in the world, Mr Wrigley himself was asked why he maintained an entire advertising department with continuous advertising campaigns?
Mr Wrigley responded that "it did not matter how good of a product you made, if you did not keep it in front of the public's eye, they would soon leave you for whoever did."(or words to that effect)..
Again, I strongly feel "word of mouth" and the consumers voice are oh,so important..

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/10/2015 8:18:42 PM

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Good example of truth in advertising (i'm not sure the year)...

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/10/2015 8:29:11 PM

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Would my drug dealer have some of that?

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/10/2015 9:10:21 PM

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O.K...Pet peeve and truth in advertising....A certain over the counter stomach acid relief tablet lauds the fact it contains calcium...O.K., problem is, the calcium NEEDS stomach acid to break it down over time....and the tablet itself fights that very stomach acid so 100% of that calcium is wasted!!..

(Got this from Consumer Reports magazine which I have read religiously since high school.)

Not only that it is calcium carbonate which is a form of calcium the body can't really absorb very well.

Consumer Reports is a good source of information for these sorts of things. I haven't been as avid a reader, but we often turn to it when researching a major purchase.

Bill

Consumer Reports is a useful resource for major purchases of home goods. My problem with it is that it oversteps its knowledge base as a consumer product tester at times. Forays into science and its (mis)treatment of some medical professionals had me cancel my subscription years ago. If I really need to know what dryer to buy, we'll go the public library to research it rather than get another subscription.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/10/2015 10:42:47 PM

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O.K...Pet peeve and truth in advertising....A certain over the counter stomach acid relief tablet lauds the fact it contains calcium...O.K., problem is, the calcium NEEDS stomach acid to break it down over time....and the tablet itself fights that very stomach acid so 100% of that calcium is wasted!!..

(Got this from Consumer Reports magazine which I have read religiously since high school.)

Not only that it is calcium carbonate which is a form of calcium the body can't really absorb very well.

Consumer Reports is a good source of information for these sorts of things. I haven't been as avid a reader, but we often turn to it when researching a major purchase.

Bill

Consumer Reports is a useful resource for major purchases of home goods. My problem with it is that it oversteps its knowledge base as a consumer product tester at times. Forays into science and its (mis)treatment of some medical professionals had me cancel my subscription years ago. If I really need to know what dryer to buy, we'll go the public library to research it rather than get another subscription.

The public library? All that'll get you is some rope and clothespins. Are you using one of these too? Let me see your moonshine still.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/11/2015 2:05:46 AM

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Let me see your moonshine still.

Nice try, revenuer! You go sniffin' 'round for my still, you'se likely to be chased out by some buckshot. [spits at spittoon].

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/11/2015 2:27:22 AM

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Let me see your moonshine still.

Nice try, revenuer! You go sniffin' 'round for my still, you'se likely to be chased out by some buckshot. [spits at spittoon].

I was born in West Virginee, don't take on no airs with me. Actually one of my ancestors was a revenuer. He lived to be fairly old but died in a gunfight with a West Virginian or Pennsylvanian (I forget which) distillery magnate who favored suspenders and toe holes for the toes to breathe.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/11/2015 2:40:57 AM

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Oh, I forgot. One of my paternal aunts used the word "warsh". As in Warshington DC, warsh the clothes, warsh your hands before dinner. Those were the days. I remember that one time she took me to the airport (at Wheeling I think) and there had been a cicada efflorescence, I couldn't take a step on the tarmac without crunching some. I lived in Pittsburgh at that time and believe I flew on a DC-3. I remember having to use one of the barf bags. I remember a man I didn't know trying to help me out a little. I remember a lot of men were still wearing Stetsons.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/11/2015 2:57:38 AM

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I cringe when people say "warsh". My mother was a grammar nazi.

I have a friend who says as a teen he transported untaxed alcoholic beverages in Alabama. He had a 50s Chevy with the back seat replaced with a tank and an emergency dump valve. He could dump the entire load on the road at any time.

One time he got chased and the local sheriff ended up stranded in the middle of a corn field with the owner of the corn field standing over him with a shotgun. After that the local judge gave him the choice of jail or the military. He was sure his uncle owned that judge, and wondered what was going on. Later he learned his mother had a discussion with the uncle and convinced him to get out of the transport business.

This was the early 60s. He was still in the Air Force when Vietnam got going and ended up in theater. He was technically a non-combatant, but got three purple hearts in six weeks. After the third one, he took an opportunity to get out and do something more laid back.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/11/2015 3:25:48 AM

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I cringe when people say "warsh". My mother was a grammar nazi.

Bill

Warsh warsh warsh warsh warsh. Okay, this is now a moderator free zone. We can do whatever we want!

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/11/2015 4:42:48 AM

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Didn't say I'd run away, just cringe.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/11/2015 1:14:06 PM

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I cringe when people say "warsh". My mother was a grammar nazi.

I have a friend who says as a teen he transported untaxed alcoholic beverages in Alabama. He had a 50s Chevy with the back seat replaced with a tank and an emergency dump valve. He could dump the entire load on the road at any time.

One time he got chased and the local sheriff ended up stranded in the middle of a corn field with the owner of the corn field standing over him with a shotgun. After that the local judge gave him the choice of jail or the military. He was sure his uncle owned that judge, and wondered what was going on. Later he learned his mother had a discussion with the uncle and convinced him to get out of the transport business.

This was the early 60s. He was still in the Air Force when Vietnam got going and ended up in theater. He was technically a non-combatant, but got three purple hearts in six weeks. After the third one, he took an opportunity to get out and do something more laid back.

Bill

+1...Oh yeah.....I cringe when I listen to sports figures being interviewed who cannot speak English. Supposed to have been to college and use the word "warsh"...."axe"(instead of ask)....the phrase "you know" as a sentence filler every 5th word.....etc..

Pet peeves...Oh...I think we are just getting started......