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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/15/2015 3:43:47 AM   
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A woman speaking cockney, however, is the opposite. Think Billie Piper pushing her best cockney in Dr. Who.


Americans have a weak spot for any UK accent. I once worked with a guy from Scotland who said his accent placed him on the bottom of the pecking order in the UK. It was a working class Scottish accent. He was brilliant and had gone to school at Cambridge or Oxford on a scholarship (I forget which, I know the distinction between the two is a big deal to those in the UK). He said he couldn't get a date in the UK with his accent, but once he emigrated to the US, suddenly he was cool and exotic and got a lot of attention.



I had the same experience in Oz. Attention American men! Go to Oz before you get married! That is all.


American men? What are we gorns supposed to do? Are there gorn women in Oz? Or do I have to go to NZ to find those?

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/15/2015 3:50:58 AM   
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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/15/2015 4:18:28 AM   
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A woman speaking cockney, however, is the opposite. Think Billie Piper pushing her best cockney in Dr. Who.
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Billie Piper (thankfully) had only a very mild Cockney or estuary English accent in evidence in Doctor Who (well she was born in Swindon? for goodness sake).... Even so it really bugged me on the few occasions it came through to any degree and she would fail to pronounce a t for example. No one expects BBC English anymore, but....

Sadly this lazy way of speaking is becoming more prevalent in the UK as people think its cool and moron, right-on media bosses go out of their way to hire presenters, DJ's etc who speak like this. Even worse are two fairly recent happenings: Firstly the rise of Jafaican, where dumb-arse white kids think its cool to speak with a mix of cockney and Jamaican patois. Pet peeve? No that £$%^ turns me into a homicidal loon. I got on the train the other day and a young kid who should know better was on da phone asking his mate "where is you?". I had to stick my ipod on loud to drown out the assault on my eardrums; either that or chuck him off the train before reaching the station. The even more recent phenomena is for previously "normal" speakers to start purposely adopting a cockney accent as they think they are "gettin daan wiv da youff".

So no its not cool its just plain lazy. My dad and his family - 4 brothers and sisters - were "true" cockneys - born within the sound of the bow bells, just before during and just after the First World War, into a poverty that our generation would find a world away - sharing a "bathroom" with other families, no hot running water, and certainly no money. My dad went to school only until he was 13, but despite that upbringing he never dropped an H or missed a T in his life. No one has to speak that way - its just lazyness (or worse - idiots trying to be cool).

As for regional accents, they are a real mixed bunch. I think they all have a charm of their own - provided they are not toooooo broad, at which point they can become difficult for the listener in fully understanding. It also depends a lot on who is speaking of course. I find female regional accents generally sweet. Brummie is perhaps the least "ear-friendly" of them all - regardless of who is speaking Sorry to those from Birmingham and environs

Wheyey Cheryl, you can talk Geordie to me all day pet - I'll listen




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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/15/2015 5:25:05 AM   
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Unless, of course, you are a beneficiary of a recent ruling by the US Supreme Court.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/15/2015 5:27:58 AM   
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A picture of a woman like that should not be in a Pet Peeves thread.

Unless, of course, you are a beneficiary of a recent ruling by the US Supreme Court.

Regards,
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For those of us this side of the pond can you explain what that ruling was please? That flew over my head I'm afraid.

Thanks


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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/15/2015 5:38:38 AM   
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A picture of a woman like that should not be in a Pet Peeves thread.

Unless, of course, you are a beneficiary of a recent ruling by the US Supreme Court.

Regards,
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For those of us this side of the pond can you explain what that ruling was please? That flew over my head I'm afraid.

Thanks



It's a political comment, which doesn't belong here. Sorry.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/15/2015 6:20:11 AM   
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A picture of a woman like that should not be in a Pet Peeves thread.

Unless, of course, you are a beneficiary of a recent ruling by the US Supreme Court.

Regards,
Feltan


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For those of us this side of the pond can you explain what that ruling was please? That flew over my head I'm afraid.

Thanks



It's a political comment, which doesn't belong here. Sorry.

Bill
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That's a relief. I mean I know the Geordie lass has her detractors but I would be surprised if there was a Supreme Court Ruling against Cheryl Cole's existence


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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/15/2015 11:38:33 AM   
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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/15/2015 12:06:49 PM   
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Apologies. Didn't occur to me at the time that such a comment was within the political realm. Seems like it has become just part of daily life.

Regards,
Feltan



Gotta remember you're not in Kansas anymore.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/15/2015 2:22:48 PM   
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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/15/2015 5:45:00 PM   
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Kansas = people of the south wind
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....and bowler hat man man of bad wind. Danlongmanman not friends with bowler hat man. I like danlongmanman they are my friend.


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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/15/2015 7:27:49 PM   
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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/24/2015 6:49:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's another peeve. Will you Brits please keep your term "boffins" on your side of the Atlantic? We have scientists, you have boffins.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/24/2015 7:07:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		You're upset because of the word boffin?

Think about it from our point of view!

- Can I get a coffee to go?

- I could care less

- My bad

- You do the math


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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/24/2015 7:13:17 PM   
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The rest is from an incorrigible younger generation or two. Can't do anything with them. We also like to use the prefix 'irr' to create double-negatives.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/24/2015 8:34:53 PM   
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You're upset because of the word boffin?

Think about it from our point of view!

- Can I get a coffee to go?

- I could care less

- My bad

- You do the math


I see you're an optimist!

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/25/2015 4:28:28 AM   
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You're upset because of the word boffin?

Think about it from our point of view!

- Can I get a coffee to go?

- I could care less

- My bad

- You do the math


I see you're an optimist!
warspite1

Optimist? Is that like another word for a miserable old git?


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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/25/2015 5:09:46 AM   
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You're upset because of the word boffin?

Think about it from our point of view!

- Can I get a coffee to go?

- I could care less

- My bad

- You do the math


I see you're an optimist!
warspite1

Optimist? Is that like another word for a miserable old git?


Yes, basically I think that describes us!

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/25/2015 5:18:40 AM   
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You're upset because of the word boffin?

Think about it from our point of view!

- Can I get a coffee to go?

- I could care less

- My bad

- You do the math


I see you're an optimist!
warspite1

Optimist? Is that like another word for a miserable old git?


Yes, basically I think that describes us!
warspite1

Sadly, I still remember the very first time I came across the hideous "My Bad".

It was in Civilisation - III I think - and one of the World Leaders said "My Bad". I just stared at the screen really, really annoyed that the game makers had let such a silly error go unnoticed....I mean how could they not spot they had missed off half the sentence?

It was only a short while later that I realised, from someone at work saying it, that that is an actual saying. My Bad... my bad.....my bad... I'm getting angry just writing that $%^&!




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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/25/2015 5:31:24 AM   
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Who decided one day that saying "I could care less" (which of course doesn't make sense in the context of the sentence they are using it in and what they actually mean) was a sensible thing to say? I mean how in the name of Bonaparte's Balls did that catch on?

I mean its real simple. "I couldn't care less". I just don't care, it is of no importance whatsoever. So if one wishes to convey that very meaning but they say "I could care less" then don't they realise they are talking sloblocks? I mean come on, you do the math




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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/25/2015 12:44:18 PM   
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....and while I'm on one (this is a good idea for a thread ), perhaps someone can answer me this?

Who decided one day that saying "I could care less" (which of course doesn't make sense in the context of the sentence they are using it in and what they actually mean) was a sensible thing to say? I mean how in the name of Bonaparte's Balls did that catch on?

I mean its real simple. "I couldn't care less". I just don't care, it is of no importance whatsoever. So if one wishes to convey that very meaning but they say "I could care less" then don't they realise they are talking sloblocks? I mean come on, you do the math





The same guy who created flammable and inflammable.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/25/2015 12:56:24 PM   
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....and while I'm on one (this is a good idea for a thread ), perhaps someone can answer me this?

Who decided one day that saying "I could care less" (which of course doesn't make sense in the context of the sentence they are using it in and what they actually mean) was a sensible thing to say? I mean how in the name of Bonaparte's Balls did that catch on?

I mean its real simple. "I couldn't care less". I just don't care, it is of no importance whatsoever. So if one wishes to convey that very meaning but they say "I could care less" then don't they realise they are talking sloblocks? I mean come on, you do the math





The same guy who created flammable and inflammable.

Found that one out the hard way, did ya?!

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/25/2015 1:15:44 PM   
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....and while I'm on one (this is a good idea for a thread ), perhaps someone can answer me this?

Who decided one day that saying "I could care less" (which of course doesn't make sense in the context of the sentence they are using it in and what they actually mean) was a sensible thing to say? I mean how in the name of Bonaparte's Balls did that catch on?

I mean its real simple. "I couldn't care less". I just don't care, it is of no importance whatsoever. So if one wishes to convey that very meaning but they say "I could care less" then don't they realise they are talking sloblocks? I mean come on, you do the math




Sometime, somebody (or a thousand somebodies at some times) misheard "I couldn't care less." I think that's how a lot of sayings get morphed over time. Remember how hard it was to understand rock 'n roll lyrics on the radio? Even on an album (on whatever media)? I heard a great story on a podcast about the group America and their song Ventura Highway. Now, honestly, back in high school and for many years afterward I didn't know that the song was called Ventura Highway. I didn't even know that there was a Ventura Highway. The best I could do, after years of hearing the song, mind you, was "venture a highway" as a metaphor for take a chance/journey or something. But this story is much, much better. The story was told by a guy also in the entertainment business who met and was having some drinks with a couple of members of the band many years later. Lots of well known groups do private functions. Far more often than just the ones you hear about where some mega-rich person hires a super popular group for some private event. And the group America did plenty of them as well.

So America was hired to play at this couple's wedding. They just loved the group's music. Everything was going great, and at one point the happy couple approached the band and made a special request. You see, one of the group's songs is their song. Their special song, like many couples have. And theirs is Chair on a Highway. Now you know that many performers would have been upset. Some would have gone ballistic, maybe smashed their guitars and stormed off (down Ventura Highway!), but the guys of America are just nice people. And as the band members related, the couple was so nice and it was their special day, and... so they sang "chair on a highway" while the newlyweds danced to their special song.



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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/25/2015 1:57:52 PM   
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You're upset because of the word boffin?

Think about it from our point of view!

- Can I get a coffee to go?

- I could care less

- My bad

- You do the math


I see you're an optimist!
warspite1

Optimist? Is that like another word for a miserable old git?


Yes, basically I think that describes us!
warspite1

Sadly, I still remember the very first time I came across the hideous "My Bad".

It was in Civilisation - III I think - and one of the World Leaders said "My Bad". I just stared at the screen really, really annoyed that the game makers had let such a silly error go unnoticed....I mean how could they not spot they had missed off half the sentence?

It was only a short while later that I realised, from someone at work saying it, that that is an actual saying. My Bad... my bad.....my bad... I'm getting angry just writing that $%^&!




Over here, 'My bad' is attributed to the late Sudanese basketball player Manute Bol, whose English wasn't the best. He was a very nice person and would apologize for his mistakes on the court.

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/25/2015 2:41:37 PM   
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... I mean how in the name of Bonaparte's Balls did that catch on? ...



Making a comparison to French testicles is probably against forum rules and etiquette. If not, I vote that it should be.

What a horrible visual that creates!

Oh .... wait a minute .... that's right, I couldn't care less!

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/26/2015 12:01:37 AM   
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....and while I'm on one (this is a good idea for a thread ), perhaps someone can answer me this?

Who decided one day that saying "I could care less" (which of course doesn't make sense in the context of the sentence they are using it in and what they actually mean) was a sensible thing to say? I mean how in the name of Bonaparte's Balls did that catch on?

I mean its real simple. "I couldn't care less". I just don't care, it is of no importance whatsoever. So if one wishes to convey that very meaning but they say "I could care less" then don't they realise they are talking sloblocks? I mean come on, you do the math





The same guy who created flammable and inflammable.

Found that one out the hard way, did ya?!



Don't tell me there's warning stickers saying "Danger Inflammable" as well as "Danger Flammable"? I can't remember, is it i before e after c or... WTF just light the match

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/26/2015 12:07:45 AM   
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So America was hired to play at this couple's wedding. They just loved the group's music. Everything was going great, and at one point the happy couple approached the band and made a special request. You see, one of the group's songs is their song. Their special song, like many couples have. And theirs is Chair on a Highway. Now you know that many performers would have been upset. Some would have gone ballistic, maybe smashed their guitars and stormed off (down Ventura Highway!), but the guys of America are just nice people. And as the band members related, the couple was so nice and it was their special day, and... so they sang "chair on a highway" while the newlyweds danced to their special song.




Do you remember that commercial (over here on the left bank of the Atlantic) that had that rock climber climbing something she probably shouldn't have, but this song lyric breaks out "Nobody likes potatoes.." That's what it sounded like to me. It was supposed to be "Somebody left the gate open..."

Be honest, how many of us didn't misunderstand lyrics from our former days?

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/26/2015 12:17:55 AM   
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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/26/2015 9:40:07 AM   
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So America was hired to play at this couple's wedding. They just loved the group's music. Everything was going great, and at one point the happy couple approached the band and made a special request. You see, one of the group's songs is their song. Their special song, like many couples have. And theirs is Chair on a Highway. Now you know that many performers would have been upset. Some would have gone ballistic, maybe smashed their guitars and stormed off (down Ventura Highway!), but the guys of America are just nice people. And as the band members related, the couple was so nice and it was their special day, and... so they sang "chair on a highway" while the newlyweds danced to their special song.




Be honest, how many of us didn't misunderstand lyrics from our former days?
warspite1

Well this man did.

An advert for tapes(!) back in the 80's.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAsmf1LGcpA

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RE: OT Pet Peeves - 7/26/2015 7:05:55 PM   
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