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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/28/2017 2:27:00 PM   
Lecivius


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How many players get Aces flying float fighters?


You should try Andy's latest. He has a bunch of these with Uber pilots. They kill B-17s at 36K ft

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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/28/2017 3:01:26 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		I have always used Rufes and the Rex's as anti 4E bomber killers. I had Rex's shoot down a B29.

Generally they have 4 uses:

1. trainers
2. dot base 0 runway ambushes
3. deep anti bomber defense
4. low cap on CS/BB hyrbrids/CA-CS/CA

The BB/CS conversion adds low CAP, and also creates the strongest BB AA platform in the game for Japan I believe.

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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/28/2017 3:12:55 PM   
Lecivius


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Status: offline 		Maybe, but have you seen the Rufes specs?

This from Wiki, that reliable source of information...

Performance

Maximum speed: 436 km/h (235 knots, 270.5 mph) at 5,000 m (16,400 ft)
Cruise speed: 296 km/h (160 knots, 184 mph)
Range: 1,782 km (963 nmi, 1,107 mi)
Service ceiling: 10,000 m (32,800 ft)
Climb rate: 6 min 43 s to 5,000 m (16,400 ft)

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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/28/2017 3:28:59 PM   
Lowpe


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ORIGINAL: Lecivius

Maybe, but have you seen the Rufes specs?

This from Wiki, that reliable source of information...

Performance

Maximum speed: 436 km/h (235 knots, 270.5 mph) at 5,000 m (16,400 ft)
Cruise speed: 296 km/h (160 knots, 184 mph)
Range: 1,782 km (963 nmi, 1,107 mi)
Service ceiling: 10,000 m (32,800 ft)
Climb rate: 6 min 43 s to 5,000 m (16,400 ft)


I have also had Rufes shoot down B17...early in 42 they are great used in that role. But not at 36K!

Engagements don't last long as the bombers usually fly right by with lots of unable to catch messages.


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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/28/2017 6:29:11 PM   
Lowpe


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A quiet day. I did manage to sink another Dutch sub to depth charges...at least according to intelligence. I am working hard on sinking them.

My poor mans sweep over Katha finds no lrCAP. Very hard to attrit the Allied air force when they don't come out to play. Umboi cap trap a bust too.






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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/28/2017 6:34:16 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		I spotted F5A at both Prome and Kavieng...both bases have really good AA units present.

Still, he had to be flying those Lightnings low!




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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/29/2017 12:42:59 AM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		Got my first 61-d Tony squadron upgraded today. Only 12 planes in it for now, but I wanted to get it up and switched over from the Oscar III's they were flying.

Trying my usual tricks again for tomorrow...

Large convoy left Anchorage with half a dozen units. They will fortify along the Aleutians.

Sent a large artillery unit to Wake. Midway is getting more CD guns, and will drop a ton of mines there in a little bit.


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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/29/2017 11:33:19 AM   
Lowpe


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A massive Japanese twin engine bombing raid on the LRP troops and their Light AA escorts south of Katha generates quite a few LCU VP, a solid bombardment of the trapped Yanks and Aussies at Katha the rest -- 13 LCU VP earned for the day.

The Allies sweep and bomb heavily Katha...but they generate only 1 LCU VP and lose two fighters and 1 beast in the process.

Other than that a quiet day.




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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/29/2017 2:52:49 PM   
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A minor LRCAP trap over Katha nets a positive exchange.






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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/29/2017 3:54:20 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		So, it would have been a decent day, but I blundered and let two 28 VP tankers out of Miri/Brunei. Under escorted and going to Cam Ranh Bay, instead of Manila, both were sunk fully loaded by Yank subs. Ouch.

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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/29/2017 6:01:37 PM   
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Still cleaning up the Chinese. To the north there are two stubborn HQ units in the mountains too. Plus 17 units to the south.






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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/29/2017 6:02:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Allies sweep Katha with Corsairs...and then bomb with 4E.

None of my traps/attacks fly.




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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/29/2017 6:05:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		From Nates to the 61-c for a few days till I upgrade them to the 61-d. Big step up!

In other plane new the first Grace factory (size 60) repairs fully and starts r&d acceleration with engine bonus tomorrow.




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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/29/2017 9:09:01 PM   
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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/29/2017 10:18:12 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		I think Allies got tipped that the KB is at Sorong.

Should I reveal them in a mass ASW attack?




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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/30/2017 2:10:11 PM   
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Bombing in heavy rain, moving troops in open at 10K feet.

Some days are simply very disappointing. Perhaps the recon pilots got socked in...

Allies have supply every day, at Katha I have supply once every four days and only a fraction of what is needed. Move the troops to an adjacent non-base hex and the supply flows fully restoring them.

This is like the fourth day of bombing them with the cream of Japan's Army bombers, skill 80+, exp 70+ and I still lose 2-3 bombers a strike.




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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/30/2017 4:27:32 PM   
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Bad news...




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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/30/2017 4:33:14 PM   
Lowpe


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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/30/2017 4:57:13 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		The 33rd Division left Katha yesterday...it was being bombed daily.

So, normally some bombers would follow that division, so I set up a LRCAP of 150 Nicks over them. Wouldn't you know it, the Allies stand down their bombers.

Pity.




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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 4/30/2017 11:20:18 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		I need to fine tune my naval traps in the Milne Bay area now to avoid cap traps.



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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 5/1/2017 2:45:46 AM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		In about 2 months the Frank R will start production. There seems to be about 20 sentai that fly the R model. Most can be upgraded to the Ki94II past the R model. There will be some Frank A squadrons that don't upgrade.

There are something like 10 r&d factories that are working on the R model, most sized 30. I need to figure out how many of those facilities go to research the Ki94 or some other late war plane.

Of the standard planes the only one I need to r&d is the Randy 102b which quite a few lilly squadrons upgrade to.

My choices seem really limited to the Ki94, a kamikaze (but generally no squadrons arrive until 5/45 which is about 6 months of acceleration). All the other options aren't great because of the lack of squadrons capable of flying the late war planes.


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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 5/1/2017 12:20:35 PM   
Lowpe


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Only one more Chinese base to go and all of China will be in the Empire.






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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 5/1/2017 12:23:56 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		I-9 ran into 9 destroyers and one CL, the Santa Fe. She goes down...a bitter blow since she had glens.

Anyhow, here they come! 9 DL on Seward and Kodiak.




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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 5/1/2017 12:30:23 PM   
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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 5/1/2017 4:21:00 PM   
Lowpe


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Status: offline 		Trying a poor mans sweep near Kodiak. Almost every fighter on escort and only 12 Betties on strike, with 10 percent of them even on search. Interested to see how it works out.


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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 5/1/2017 6:27:45 PM   
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Poor mans sweep. Works better with George and Frank. At 25K. Beats losing 60 Betties.




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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 5/1/2017 6:29:27 PM   
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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 5/1/2017 7:09:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dutch Harbor and Umnak, with Cold Bay. He doesn't need Kodiak, except for points later. The only reason to move up here is to continue through the Aleutians ('ware, Kuriles and Hokkaido garrisons...) and Kodiak is tangential to that goal at best.

He didn't need to approach from the east, though. He was probably trying to bait out strikes, or let you see it. Or else he didn't think it through.

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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 5/1/2017 7:22:11 PM   
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Dutch Harbor and Umnak, with Cold Bay. He doesn't need Kodiak, except for points later. The only reason to move up here is to continue through the Aleutians ('ware, Kuriles and Hokkaido garrisons...) and Kodiak is tangential to that goal at best.

He didn't need to approach from the east, though. He was probably trying to bait out strikes, or let you see it. Or else he didn't think it through.


Or a ploy to try and get me to move the KB here way out at the end of the Empire.

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RE: Gnashing of Teeth: Cries of Fury - 5/1/2017 7:44:31 PM   
Lokasenna


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Dutch Harbor and Umnak, with Cold Bay. He doesn't need Kodiak, except for points later. The only reason to move up here is to continue through the Aleutians ('ware, Kuriles and Hokkaido garrisons...) and Kodiak is tangential to that goal at best.

He didn't need to approach from the east, though. He was probably trying to bait out strikes, or let you see it. Or else he didn't think it through.


Or a ploy to try and get me to move the KB here way out at the end of the Empire.



Well, right. But I can't think of why he'd have so many major ships there (and it looks like you aren't even seeing all of it) if it was a ploy. What was the unit ID on the fighters flying CAP? If I had to guess, I'd say that's 1 to 5 CVEs and at least 1 CVL. CV presence questionable. But look at all those "BB" being reported... when you see that many BB in the line, it almost always means it's BBs. At the least, it's CAs. At this date, that's a sizeable force.

If it's a ploy, it risks leaving his "real move" underdefended even if you did send KB all the way up here.

Hence, he's got to actually be doing something with this, as otherwise he risks two major movements (the ploy with a hefty commitment within it) for no gain if he has to cancel an underdefended major thrust along with an empty ploy that didn't work.

Also, Jocke doesn't do empty feints. Hell, I'm not sure he feints at all - he'll cancel an op if necessary, but I don't think he thinks explicitly in terms of baiting and feinting (even if the feint is a real op meant to accomplish something as gravy on top of the feint).

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