Jason Petho
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ORIGINAL: chrisp
As someone who tried to save the old Talonsoft game (my mods are out there somewhere), I have some questions:
I notice that the problem of helicopters has been fixed (in the TS game, they couldn't go up steep slopes -- they were just vehicles).
Yes, they can now actually fly in different "Flight Zones". See the manual for an explanation how that works. This is fantastic, as far as I'm concerned.
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ORIGINAL: chrisp
How are ATMs handled? One of my original gripes was that units like the BMP2 or the sagger teams had an endless supply of missiles. This is far from realistic. Do these units have limited ammo?
Saggers:
Most Sagger units are 2 or 3 SP's. Each SP represents a Sagger team. These teams typically have four missiles per team and an RPG. This gives each Sagger units 8 to 12 launchers per unit plus 2 or 3 RPG's.
The suitcase missile system is only 25 lbs, making them easy to replenish, assuming line of communications are secured. The infantry units were equipped with thousands of the suitcase systems, they were available in abundance.
The operators are carefully selected with high levels of training, with the expectation of firing 50 to 60 simulated rounds to maintain proficiency. Even still, we limited their Action Points for firing to 55, meaning they will get one shot off per turn.
Their life expectancy ended up being, on average, three turns in direct combat, since they don't usually stand up to direct tank fire that well in open terrain. Less if there is supporting infantry.
With the above in mind, no, they aren't limited in ammunition, since it isn't necessary for the conflicts that are being represented. This may change in a NATO war game.
On the other hand, ATGM missile armed helicopter do have limited ammunitions and will run out ammo after 4 shots. They are expected to fly back to their parent HQ, land, reload and fly off again for another sortie.
BMP1:
One thing we did was reduce the number of missile armed BMP's. Many of the BMP's that were carrying support weapons didn't carry missiles. They are identified by BMP1 (no ATGM) in the game.
In the order of battles, I also gave more missile armed BMP's to Class A units, less to Class B and even fewer to Class C units.
Even with that in mind, the BMP's tend to last less than five turns in combat. Their high Action Point cost to fire make them an expensive option to waste as mobile ATGM systems.
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ORIGINAL: chrisp
Another problem I had with the original involved MANPAD AA missiles. They would op fire at anything that moved, including infantry. Has this been dealt with?
No, these will target airstrikes and helicopters, especially if you are using the Adaptive A/I optional rule.
Jason Petho
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