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RE: New Units for PC - 1/7/2016 9:35:32 AM   
T2_2112

 

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ORIGINAL: Brazenman

T2_2112

Link for new units
https://www.sendspace.com/file/kmh10b


Henschel Hs-129
Macchi MC.205V Veltro

https://www.sendspace.com/file/9jlsf4

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/7/2016 10:11:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kompolka

Great job guys!
But I found a few bugs
The following units do not have a big picture:T-34-43, T-34-85, KV-5, Soviet_M4_Sherman, 57mm_Model_1943, 100mm_M1944, SU-76, SU-85, SU-152, ISU-152, T-90 SPAAG, M16 MGMC, BM-31 Katyusha

Considering that H.Balck never released those you can consider it a feature, not a bug. :D It`s mentioned in the readme that comes with the mod and also a few times in these threads:
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=3993230
The full list is here:
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/fb.asp?m=3801287
(minus the Cossack Cavalry which was completed in the meantime)
Despite all this I have no doubt people will continue to keep on "discovering" this "bug" which is why it was worth adressing.
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ORIGINAL: T2_2112

@H.Balck

I think ur Blenheim model is Blenheim Mk IV not Mk I

Indeed, it`s an Mk.IV. Romania only used the Mk.I. But it`s not the only issue with those planes. That trimotor from above is not a IAR-79. Romania never used the three-engined Savoia Marchetti SM.79. It ordered a customized version with only two engines(the S.79B) and then ordered more with Jumo engines (JIS-79B) and license produced the rest (JRS-79B). There are differences between them but in game one could only use one graphic I guess. It should look something like this:
http://www.cartula.ro/forum/topic/12398-machete-in-lucru/page__p__185179#entry185179
http://www.worldwar2.ro/arr/?language=en&article=757
As you can see in those pictures, the camo for the Romanian produced aircraft of those years was made in the shape of wide irregular stripes.

Romania also did not use the B version of the He-111. It had the H (H3 initially):
http://www.worldwar2.ro/arr/?article=755
and the camo actually looked like this:
http://www.cartula.ro/forum/topic/1223-he111-h3-nr5-arr/page__hl__he-111

The Romanian Bf-109E were never painted in that camouflage pattern. They were RLM 71 on the upper side and RLM 65 on the underside:
http://smnzone.scalemodellingno.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/gallery/airfix-messerschmitt-e1-e3-e7/8-hn-ac-kits-airfix-messerschmitt-bf-109e-1-e-3-e-7-trop-1-48-scale.jpg
http://www.largescaleplanes.com/articles/article.php?aid=928

The Romanian Hs-129 were B2, not the version with the 75mm gun:
http://www.worldwar2.ro/arr/?article=761
https://sites.google.com/site/mgc151184/hs-129bnr.132
http://www.cartula.ro/forum/topic/1592-hs-129-ajutor/page__hl__hs-129
and likewise, they kept the German style camo, but with Romanian markings.

In fact, many of the Romanian aircraft inherited the original German factory paintjob, especially in the later years and it`s something one finds for other Axis nations too.

No version of the IAR-80 had guns on the extremity of the wings. Basically the graphics above depict the pitot tube on the left wing and duplicate it on the right wing (obviously, the pitot tube would only be on one wing):
http://s223.photobucket.com/user/stosser_69/media/Model140.jpg.html


This article shows a list of all the aircraft in Romanian service (including those that were captured and never used operationally):
http://www.worldwar2.ro/arr/?language=en&article=766

< Message edited by R35 -- 1/7/2016 11:25:37 AM >

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/7/2016 10:28:03 AM   
Brazenman

 

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Thank you!


all ready planes
link
https://www.sendspace.com/file/u58w46

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/7/2016 11:20:02 AM   
T2_2112

 

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ORIGINAL: R35
Indeed, it`s an Mk.IV. Romania only used the Mk.I. But it`s not the only issue with those planes. That trimotor from above is not a IAR-79. Romania never used the three-engined Savoia Marchetti SM.79. It ordered a customized version with only two engines(the S.79B) and then ordered more with Jumo engines (JIS-79B) and license produced the rest (JRS-79B). There are differences between them but in game one could only use one graphic I guess. It should look something like this:
http://www.cartula.ro/forum/topic/12398-machete-in-lucru/page__p__185179#entry185179
http://www.worldwar2.ro/arr/?language=en&article=757
As you can see in those pictures, the camo for the Romanian produced aircraft of those years was made in the shape of wide irregular stripes.

Romania also did not use the B version of the He-111. It had the H (H3 initially):
http://www.worldwar2.ro/arr/?article=755
and the camo actually looked like this:
http://www.cartula.ro/forum/topic/1223-he111-h3-nr5-arr/page__hl__he-111

The Romanian Bf-109E were never painted in that camouflage pattern. They were RLM 71 on the upper side and RLM 65 on the underside:
http://smnzone.scalemodellingno.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/gallery/airfix-messerschmitt-e1-e3-e7/8-hn-ac-kits-airfix-messerschmitt-bf-109e-1-e-3-e-7-trop-1-48-scale.jpg
http://www.largescaleplanes.com/articles/article.php?aid=928

This article shows a list of all the aircraft in Romanian service (including those that were captured and never used operationally):
http://www.worldwar2.ro/arr/?language=en&article=766


I think the camo can leave it right now, one kind of camo for all kind of aircraft (one country).

I hope i can see He-112B, He-100

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/7/2016 11:36:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: T2_2112
I think the camo can leave it right now, one kind of camo for all kind of aircraft (one country).

Isn`t that what vanilla PzC has done? All French aircraft brown and all Italian planes beige? You looked at it and you sorta knew it`s a D.520... just that it looked unpainted. The aircraft are those units that really put the colour into the game and it`s a pity to make entire rosters in one single style.
I have no problem with choosing only one of several camouflage styles that a certain aircraft type had during the war for a certain faction, but I think it should still be one of the actually used camo styles for that particular aircraft. Otherwise, why bother... Unlike artillery and AFVs, aircraft colours are pretty well documented and someone familiar with them would expect a He-112 to be RLM 02 and not a combination of dark earth and dark green. Should an American Mustang be painted brown and green to match the new C-47 and the faction color instead of its iconic natural metal look?
Anyway, it`s up to you guys.


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RE: New Units for PC - 1/7/2016 12:33:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: R35

quote:

ORIGINAL: T2_2112
I think the camo can leave it right now, one kind of camo for all kind of aircraft (one country).

Isn`t that what vanilla PzC has done? All French aircraft brown and all Italian planes beige? You looked at it and you sorta knew it`s a D.520... just that it looked unpainted. The aircraft are those units that really put the colour into the game and it`s a pity to make entire rosters in one single style.
I have no problem with choosing only one of several camouflage styles that a certain aircraft type had during the war for a certain faction, but I think it should still be one of the actually used camo styles for that particular aircraft. Otherwise, why bother... Unlike artillery and AFVs, aircraft colours are pretty well documented and someone familiar with them would expect a He-112 to be RLM 02 and not a combination of dark earth and dark green. Should an American Mustang be painted brown and green to match the new C-47 and the faction color instead of its iconic natural metal look?
Anyway, it`s up to you guys.


Yes it can be, like some photo






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RE: New Units for PC - 1/7/2016 12:50:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Could and should... always a slight difference in between. You would rather have a P-51D in that camouflage? Sure, go ahead.

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/7/2016 1:15:11 PM   
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Could and should... always a slight difference in between. You would rather have a P-51D in that camouflage? Sure, go ahead.


Or may be this like P-51D-10-NA 44-14798 of the famous 'Yoxford Boxs' 357th FG 362nd FS from the 8th USAAF



Anyway depend on H.Balck, not me. I only care about German planes

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/7/2016 6:23:11 PM   
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/76_mm_regimental_gun_M1927


Link for new units
https://www.sendspace.com/file/nj8mig




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RE: New Units for PC - 1/8/2016 7:07:49 AM   
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Link for new units
https://www.sendspace.com/file/n414y2

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/8/2016 7:20:27 AM   
Brazenman

 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-27
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/soviet/soviet_T27.php

Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/2mwn66

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/8/2016 12:23:39 PM   
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I see the famous "Bobik"!
Thank you! This is a great unit! It's very lacked the in the game!

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/8/2016 12:27:48 PM   
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need transport for mountain guns also
please

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/8/2016 6:24:43 PM   
Brazenman

 

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Status: offline 		H.Balck wrote:
Polish Infantry 1939 big render for my 3d fans.

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/8/2016 6:27:35 PM   
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http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/gb/Carden-Loyd_MkVI.php

Link for new unit:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/5r9nt9

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/8/2016 6:35:12 PM   
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/122_mm_howitzer_M1910

Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/0yt7sc






122 mm howitzer M1910/30
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/122_mm_howitzer_M1910/30

Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/etaekv

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/8/2016 9:03:43 PM   
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/152_mm_howitzer_M1909

Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/pzuim0




152 mm howitzer M1909/30
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/152_mm_howitzer_M1909/30

Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/vyif6d

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/9/2016 1:32:16 AM   
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RE: New Units for PC - 1/9/2016 6:04:09 AM   
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The guns look really great!
Thank you, H.Balck!

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/9/2016 7:32:43 AM   
Brazenman

 

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Status: offline 		This is all semi-finished units that are ready at the moment

New Units
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ddqxa1
Reworked British Units
https://www.sendspace.com/file/sz08g0
New Modern Units
https://www.sendspace.com/file/0o708e

I understand that R-35 will not work anymore
In this case, it would be nice if someone can help us gather these units


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RE: New Units for PC - 1/9/2016 1:58:29 PM   
Brazenman

 

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about polish units

H.Balck wrote:
Here is the full reowrked polsih pack for R-35 WW2mod file !
My polish planes coming soon.

Link for new units:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/i07upz

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/9/2016 2:44:32 PM   
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/280_mm_mortar_M1939_(Br-5)

Link for new unit:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/ezpdnf

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/9/2016 3:48:42 PM   
Brazenman

 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/130_mm/50_B13_Pattern_1936

Link for new unit:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/zg3ezy

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/9/2016 4:19:57 PM   
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/76_mm_mountain_gun_M1938


Link for new unit:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/gd5035

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/9/2016 6:45:23 PM   
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You have made an excellent line of units for the Red Army
Not one other mod can not boast of such a selection of units.

I see that first you want to make a line of soviet units for 1941
But I do not understand why you forgot about these units:

Tank Matilda. These tanks participated in the Battle of Moscow in the winter 1941.
Joseph Stalin himself distributes these tanks for divisions.

T-34-57. These tanks have destroyed a lot of German tanks on the Kalinin Front in the winter 1941.

Siberian Riffleman. It is well prepared infantrymen. These soldiers have become famous during the Battle of Moscow in the winter of 1941.

Skiers. Ski battalions and a brigade of the Red Army was first formed and used during the Russo-Finnish War.
During the Great Patriotic War of the ski have played an important role in the victory over Germany.
Near Moscow during the decisive battle for the capital, there were more than 30 special ski battalions, made up of the best sportsmen of the country.
The Red Army was able to apply the experience of the Finnish War.
Most of the operations of winter 1942-1943, and 1941-1942 performed using ski groups.
This ski battalions and brigades have greater maneuverability and the ability to suddenly attack the enemy's flanks and rear were the most adapted to the specific conditions of combat operations in the winter time.

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/9/2016 8:01:53 PM   
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Link for new unit:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/xp7xg3

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/9/2016 8:05:40 PM   
Brazenman

 

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Soviet_Train
Its time for a more historicakl train transport for our Barbarossa scenario

Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/iamr51

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/9/2016 8:25:33 PM   
Brazenman

 

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Link for new unit:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/hfaqm3



Sibirian Infantry

Link for new unit:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/tmmsc4

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/9/2016 8:39:05 PM   
Brazenman

 

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Link for new unit
https://www.sendspace.com/file/jyve6w

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RE: New Units for PC - 1/9/2016 9:08:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Incidentally,
If H.Balck will make these models also
Light Tank M3 "Stuart"
Heavy Tank "Churchill" Mk.III
Light Armored Car M3A1 "Scout"
Willys-MB
we can fully close the line of armored vehicles that was delivered in the Soviet Union under Lend-Lease

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