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TV for Monitor - 11/25/2015 12:32:39 PM   
demyansk


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Status: offline 		I am going to get a free LG 32" tv monitor, might sound crazy, can you use this monitor for gaming?

Just curious
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RE: TV for Monitor - 11/25/2015 9:38:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would be interested in knowing this as well. I've assumed there would be problems with the game scaling up properly for the larger screen.

Inter-connectivity sure has been improving over the years so I won't be surprised if it you can use a TV as your desktop monitor without any special connectors.

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RE: TV for Monitor - 11/26/2015 10:50:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ill see what happens but 32 might be to large

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RE: TV for Monitor - 11/26/2015 11:17:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		i hook my laptop up to my 46 inch hd TV, works fine.Enjoy.

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RE: TV for Monitor - 11/26/2015 9:15:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I use a 32" flat screen for my monitor with no issues.
Check to see that the TV and computer are HDMI capable or that your TV has VGA and you can cable it in.

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RE: TV for Monitor - 11/27/2015 12:14:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		I use a 39 inch or 42 inch TV and I have never had issues with scaling. It was pretty cool when I upgraded. And especially for wargames, it should work just fine, if you ask me.

Just make sure it is 1080 and has a 120 refresh rate. That's not absolutely needed, but it helps.

I've been thinking of getting a 50 inch for my monitor.

And I did it several years ago, too. About 3 I think. And I got a cheap brand and it has never failed me. Insignia.

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RE: TV for Monitor - 11/27/2015 2:32:32 AM   
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RE: TV for Monitor - 11/27/2015 4:08:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I found the model of the TV. It an LG 32LB5600

http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-32LB5600-led-tv

It looks like it should work for the computer. I might try to use and just place on the wall in front of me.

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RE: TV for Monitor - 11/27/2015 5:20:02 PM   
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I am going to get a free LG 32" tv monitor, might sound crazy, can you use this monitor for gaming?

Just curious


Yes you can.

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RE: TV for Monitor - 11/27/2015 7:33:33 PM   
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RE: TV for Monitor - 11/30/2015 9:45:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Has anyone connected a Fire HDX directly to a tv? I tried once, didn't work.

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RE: TV for Monitor - 11/30/2015 3:29:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Kindle Fire HDX does not have the mini-HDMI connection that the earlier versions had so there is no direct way to cable the HDX to a TV. I just use an Amazon Fire Stick now. Its simple and easy and can be registered to your Amazon account. You can also use it to access Netflix, Hulu, etc... (costs 40$USD).

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RE: TV for Monitor - 11/30/2015 10:47:07 PM   
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RE: TV for Monitor - 12/1/2015 2:29:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I hook my laptop up to my 55 inch tv and dc-3 look's real nice!

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RE: TV for Monitor - 12/2/2015 3:05:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		demjansk, Sorry I did not respond sooner, been real busy. If you have the 8.9" kindle or the newer 7" it has only a power connection for the charger. If you have the 1st gen, smaller 7" model, it has two ports for connecting cables, one for power charger and the other is for the mini-HDMI connection. See photo, bigger end plugs into TV, mini-connector into kindle.


If you do not have two ports for cable connections, I would recommend the Amazon Fire Stick as a solution. Just $40USD, no monthly subscription for using it.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZVJAF9G?tag=googhydr-20&hvadid=89880938959&hvpos=1t1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12233856419522229867&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&hvdev=c&ref=pd_sl_6xiwvxprie_b




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RE: TV for Monitor - 12/2/2015 9:48:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the info, I have the small port on left which opens up the connection to recharge the unit. It's the 8.9 version

I have a ps3 now

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RE: TV for Monitor - 12/7/2015 2:35:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		TV's are generally set to overscan the image by default so PC desktops will run off the screen edges. So you need to go into the TV's settings menus (usually advanced settings) and turn off overscan. The problem is they don't all use the same terminology. I just bought a 65" LG 4k HDTV and it took me almost an entire day using trial and error to figure out how to turn off overscan to get it to work with the PC.

Problem is now that it is hooked up to the PC, the TV no longer works (worked fine before) and the TV fails to detect the HDMI cable in HDMI3 that it had detected before I plugged the PC into HDMI1. So now I have my PC working but no TV...

I'm sure it'll take me a day or two to figure this out too, the manuals that come with TVs these days are ridiculously short and lack any specific detailed instruction.

Jim

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RE: TV for Monitor - 12/7/2015 5:20:47 AM   
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TV's are generally set to overscan the image by default so PC descktops will run off the screen edges. So you need to go into the TV's settings menus (usually advanced settings) and turn off overscan. The problem is they don't all use the same terminology. I just bought a 65" LG 4k HDTV and it took me almost an entire day using trial and error to figure out how to turn off overscan to get it to work with the PC.

Problem is now that it is hooked up to the PC, the TV no longer works (worked fine before) and the TV fails to detect the HDMI cable in HDMI3 that it had detected before I plugged the PC into HDMI1. So now I have my PC working but no TV...

I'm sure it'll take me a day or two to figure this out too, the manuals that come with TVs these days are ridiculously short and lack any specific detailed instruction.

Jim



Clearer, directions are needed I agree. It would be even better if they had that all worked out beforehand. So when you wanted to plug in the computer things would be a simple "plug-in-hole" computer works; pull plug out TV works.

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RE: TV for Monitor - 12/7/2015 7:22:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		the 32" is OK， I feel comfortable.

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RE: TV for Monitor - 12/7/2015 10:25:16 AM   
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RE: TV for Monitor - 12/7/2015 12:15:19 PM   
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Clearer, directions are needed I agree. It would be even better if they had that all worked out beforehand. So when you wanted to plug in the computer things would be a simple "plug-in-hole" computer works; pull plug out TV works.


Finally got it all working (turns out one of my new monster cables was one way only and I had it plugged in backwards, D'oh!). Now that it's hooked up and I have set up different settings via the TV's menu's for HDMI1 (set up for the PC) and HDMI 3 (set up for the TV), its a simple task now of simply pressing the input key on the TV remote to jump between the two HDMI inputs. But getting to this point was a major pain in the arse and I can see many non-tech people simply giving up on trying to figure it all out for themselves.

My guess is they do it this way to keep the Geek Squad at Best Buy employed and very busy.

Jim

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RE: TV for Monitor - 12/7/2015 12:55:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sure u can, but the qualitty of the image, wont be the same as special display for gamers. Like refresh rate, sometimes different can be around 3-5 ms.

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RE: TV for Monitor - 12/7/2015 1:07:58 PM   
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Sure u can, but the qualitty of the image, wont be the same as special display for gamers. Like refresh rate, sometimes different can be around 3-5 ms.


Not true for the new 4k TV's. My new TV has specific picture settings for gaming and refresh can be set as high as 120Hz.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-65-class-64-5-diag--led-2160p-smart-4k-ultra-hd-tv-black/4517900.p?id=1219755712404&skuId=4517900

Though for gaming I recommend getting some HDMI monster cables, expensive but worth it.

Jim

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RE: TV for Monitor - 12/7/2015 3:56:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		HDMI is a digital signal. Expensive cables will make no difference

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/tvs-entertainment/7976/expensive-hdmi-cables-make-no-difference-the-absolute-proof

Obviously the office is full of HDMI cables and I pay about $6 for them!

Analogue audio cables on the other hand...

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RE: TV for Monitor - 12/7/2015 4:31:32 PM   
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Expensive cables will make no difference


Now he tells me...

On an off topic note, here's a copy of a PM I tried to send to Erik (box is full so it bounced).

Hi Erik,

Had my power supply fry on my old PC and it sent an electrical surge through my PC that wiped out the Motherboard, CPU and video card, so just bought a whole new system including hard drive and operating system so none of my old settings/cookies apply.

I went to buy the New AGEOD title and I get a security certificate warning stating the certificate from the store site isn't from a trusted certificate issuer (can't even get to the shopping cart without a warning). The warning goes on to state it may be a fictitious site etc. etc.

Bad for business I'd say. Just wanted to give you a heads up so you guys can work on getting a certificate for the store that doesn't give this waning to first time buyers, my guess is it scares a lot of people away.

Jim


Edit: I haven't forced a bypass to make the purchase yet in case you want me to test any changes you might make. Let me know if/when you want me to test it.

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RE: TV for Monitor - 12/7/2015 5:24:28 PM   
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RE: TV for Monitor - 12/7/2015 10:37:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jim D Burns

quote:

ORIGINAL: Zap
Clearer, directions are needed I agree. It would be even better if they had that all worked out beforehand. So when you wanted to plug in the computer things would be a simple "plug-in-hole" computer works; pull plug out TV works.


Finally got it all working (turns out one of my new monster cables was one way only and I had it plugged in backwards, D'oh!). Now that it's hooked up and I have set up different settings via the TV's menu's for HDMI1 (set up for the PC) and HDMI 3 (set up for the TV), its a simple task now of simply pressing the input key on the TV remote to jump between the two HDMI inputs. But getting to this point was a major pain in the arse and I can see many non-tech people simply giving up on trying to figure it all out for themselves.

My guess is they do it this way to keep the Geek Squad at Best Buy employed and very busy.

Jim


I just have separate TVs for the monitor and the TV viewing. I think actually my monitor is bigger than my TV!!

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RE: TV for Monitor - 12/7/2015 10:39:30 PM   
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quote:

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Sure u can, but the qualitty of the image, wont be the same as special display for gamers. Like refresh rate, sometimes different can be around 3-5 ms.


Not true for the new 4k TV's. My new TV has specific picture settings for gaming and refresh can be set as high as 120Hz.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lg-65-class-64-5-diag--led-2160p-smart-4k-ultra-hd-tv-black/4517900.p?id=1219755712404&skuId=4517900

Though for gaming I recommend getting some HDMI monster cables, expensive but worth it.

Jim


I think TVs are about to go to 240 refresh, too.

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RE: TV for Monitor - 12/7/2015 11:52:45 PM   
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I think TVs are about to go to 240 refresh, too.



Many are already there as you'll see if you browse the site. I chose this scaled down version (no 3D, 120Hz, etc.) as I saw no reason to spend another thousand or so for the extras I'll never need or use. This TV gives 4k resolution, great picture quality for movies and runs about half the price of the ones with all the bells and whistles. Still pricey but my old eyes have forced me over the years to continually increase the size of my monitor. I couldn't justify the price for PC only use, but thankfully it pulls double duty and will be my TV as well.

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RE: TV for Monitor - 12/9/2015 9:49:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks guys for the info, when I get the tv I have a few days to look at it with a computer. Ill see how it works, if it doesn't play battlefield 4 then it's. Back to the 24 inch monitor.

Ill show a picture if I get it hooked up.

Thanks

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