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Okay Okay - 6/10/2003 1:00:39 PM   
Philwd

 

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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]And the big news of the day was SW of Lunga, as my CV TF launched airstrikes against the IJN base, hoping to find the APs used to ferry the troops to the base. What they found instead was the monster Yamato and the "smaller" battleship Nagato. Yamatoabsorbed 10 1000lb bomb hits, and was seen with only minor fires. None of the bomb hits penetrated the armor, but the pilots did report 3 secondary guns of the battleship were destroyed.[/QUOTE]

Yamato escaped with no additional SYS damage, 2 fires and a couple scratches. What was she doing so far south? Protecting against a SF surprise attack attack against my transports. I had 2 very experienced Zero squadrons flying CAP. Too bad this time I missed sighting his CVs. Although I feel sinking one and heavily damaging another CA is payback for what happened near GG a few turns ago. Neither BB has damage that would keep them out of a fight.

Note the losses my planes took in the attack on his CA force. Any newbies out there who still wonder how good USN flak is well take a close look. And that's without the AA upgrades. At least the US strike was somewhat shredded also.

[QUOTE]Another airstrike has a lone transport in its sights and... almost[/QUOTE]

Wasn't alone just that's the only ship they found to attack.

[QUOTE]A sub almost torpedos a cruiser with only two escorts...[/QUOTE]

Nope just 2 got off their behinds and attacked.


[QUOTE]I don't mind telling you the pucker factor went off the scale when the message "D3A Val sights 1 CV" was displayed.[/QUOTE]

Condor you should read the thread on cringe factor :D .

Compared to our last game this one has taken a decidedly different turn. I haven't caught his CVs yet but look how close I've been. Last turn he sailed into range of a full air wing plus extra escorts and again my planes miss him. His luck can't hold forever. I now know he has split his CVs. Just a matter of tracking them down. :D

PM will fall next turn. Then the big question where to go next. I can't sit still. I have to keep up the pressure. My troop losses have been light.

And more will surely come.

Quark

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Revenge for the Pensacola - 6/11/2003 11:08:45 AM   
Attack Condor

 

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Status: offline 		[QUOTE][I]originally posted by Quark[/I]
[B]And more will surely come.[/B][/QUOTE]

Prophetic words by the IJN commander - although I'm not sure this particular type of "more" is what he had in mind:

[I]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/08/42

Weather: Clear

Air attack on Gili Gili , at 17,42


Allied aircraft
Hudson x 6
B-17E Fortress x 5


no losses

Attacking Level Bombers:
6 x Hudson at 20000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress at 15000 feet
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Air attack on TF, near Basilaki Island at 18,42


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3


no losses

Japanese Ships
DD Suzukaze

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Gili Gili at 17,42


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 51


Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless x 3 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 11 damaged

Japanese Ships
AV Sanyo Maru
AV Sanuki Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CA Maya
DD Ushio, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Nagisan Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Tarushima Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Amagiri, Bomb hits 1, on fire


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Air attack on TF, near Basilaki Island at 18,42


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 5


no losses

Japanese Ships
APD 34

Attacking Level Bombers:
5 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet

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Air attack on TF at 14,43

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 11

no losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless x 1 destroyed
SBD Dauntless x 1 damaged


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Air attack on TF, near Gili Gili at 17,42


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 28


Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless x 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Abukuma, Bomb hits 3, on fire
DD Amagiri, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AV Sanyo Maru
AV Sanuki Maru, on fire
DD Inazuma, Bomb hits 1, on fire


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Ground combat at Port Moresby

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 64274 troops, 693 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 24961 troops, 161 guns, 30 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Port Moresby base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 189

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 15570
Guns lost 15
Vehicles lost 14


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I tried to time the attacks to happen on consecutive days, hoping Quark would expect a delay between them. While not devastating attacks by any stretch of the imagination, the harassment of the IJN surface forces continues. Frankly, I expected better results from the 51 SBDs in the morning strike, especailly against ships without CAP - but the AA gunners put up a good fight.

The B17s attacking shipping was a mistake, I left them on Naval Attack instead of resting them, but even that ended up showing an IJN APD not previously known to be there. That gets me to thinking.........

In the afternoon attacks, 11 SBDs went after the IJN BB TF that shelled PM, but they were jumped by IJN LRCAP and were lucky to get out of there with only one casuality.

The second part of the afternoon attack was another strike against the shipping at GG, and a light cruiser was struck 3 times.

In the aftermath, I would guess one DD will have to be scuttled by the IJN and possibly one CL. Other ships hit are assumed to have taken significant SYS damage as a result of the strike.

With the fall of PM (congrats Quark!) tactics will concentrate on harassment of supply lines and LBA strikes against facilities at PM, GG, and possible Buna.

And for those who haven't deduced how I've handled my carriers, I did indeed split them. [I]Enterprise[/I] and [I]Saratoga[/I] were operating in the Solomons, while [I]Yorktown[/I] was operating by herself in the Coral Sea out of Townsville. I tried to keep the illusion that two carriers were operating in the Coral Sea going as long as possible by stripping the [I]Yorktown[/I] of all but 6 fighters and maintaining 4 SBD squadrons on her alone while [I]Lexington[/I] was sent back to Pearl for upgrading. [I]Lexington[/I] btw, is now upgraded and on her way back, along with [I]Wasp[/I] and [I]Hornet[/I]. Within two weeks, I'll have my own 6 carriers operating in theater.

I tried to make the invasion of PM as costly as possible. It did cost me troops and shipping, but hopefully I'll have more of each.

Time for refit and a breather, probably on both sides, although the IJN CVs remain a threat.

More to come...

_____________________________

"Shouldn't we be leading the shark into shore...instead him leading us out to sea?"

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PM Falls! - 6/11/2003 2:05:35 PM   
Philwd

 

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Status: offline 		PM falls!!!

It cost the Allied >41000 troops to hold GG and PM in its rearguard action on PNG. I know the Allies get tons of everything but that's still lots of troops. I lost ~2000 total including shipping hits. A bigger problem has been the hits on my CA forces covering the transports. While the USN has also lost a few and a few damaged he also gets more.

I have tried to cover the invasion forces mostly with carriers. Usually until my fatigue gets >50 and is costing me planes then I withdraw and rest. Condor must read my mind as in every single instance he has picked the turn I had to rest to launch his own strikes. Having had 2 carriers hit and damaged hasn't helped and admittedly led to more conservative tactics with the 5 or 6 CVs I had on station.

Condor gets 6 CVs soon. Mine are all beat up with SYS damage from covering the invasion forces. Should be a fun next 45 days. :(

A thrust at Oz or Luganville seems out of the question until I can deal with his CVs. 11 on 6. Who's got odds on that one?

Time to rotate troops and come up with another whopper of a plan.

More still coming I'm sure...(cringe)

Quark

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Aftermath - 6/12/2003 2:45:00 AM   
Attack Condor

 

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Status: offline 		Today's combat report:

[I]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/09/42

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Sub attack at 34,37

Japanese Ships
BB Yamato

Allied Ships
SS S-46


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Ground combat at Port Moresby

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 64148 troops, 692 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 10762 troops, 83 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 12 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
Men lost 48

Allied ground losses:
Men lost 12161
Guns lost 85


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A sobering reality... 800+ points lost in this game just on ground force losses :(.

It is definitely a skill to try and interweave all aspects of this game and be a credible player. This game, I've managed to keep the carriers afloat and undamaged, but - IMHO - totally mismanaged my ground forces.

Now, I have one strategy left in the Coral Sea. Since the IJN has sent 60,000+ ground forces to PM, my goal should be to keep them there - or at least close off the sea routes his transportts might try to use to rotate them out of there. I can't stop overland movement, but Quark can't expect a free rein with his APs sailing back and forth. Building the base up [I]and[/I] keeping that many ground forces in rice and bullets will require a lot of supplies. Some will, no doubt, bleed overland from Buna, but will it be enough to sustain the forces at PM?

The IJN ground forces are definitely to be reckoned with, but if I can keep them bottled up stage left, I may still be okay. IIRC, the IJN has no effective air transport capability.

As to today's combat, the submarine [I]S-39[/I] surfaced at Basilaki at the wrong time, and was hit by 2 airborne ASW units... and promptly sunk.

In the Slot, I guess correctly and had a shot at [I]Yamato[/I] as she sailed north with a sub, but all four fish missed. Missing something that big had to take practice :(

The IJN CV TFs are worn down a bit with all of their operations. The troops are on PM. The radio intercepts over Radio AAR indicate the IJN is too disheveled to launch an attack at Oz or Luganville.

Which is what (I believe) exactly what they will do.

More to come.....

_____________________________

"Shouldn't we be leading the shark into shore...instead him leading us out to sea?"

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- 6/12/2003 9:29:29 AM   
Philwd

 

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Status: offline 		My "escort" carriers are doing yeoman ASW service. Second sub they have sunk along with countless attacks.

Yes I do have a ton of troops in PM but I'll leave what is necessary and get the rest out. I don't think Condor can stop me. My goal of getting a 2:1 to avoid shock attacks worked very well. My losses were light and heaviest in my least experienced regiments so replacements won't hurt them much.

I had a taste of cringe factor when I saw Yamato sail into the periscope. Not sure how they missed but hey I'm not complaining.

Time to consolidate a little and handle some unfinished business.

Quark

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SOUTH??? You wanted to go SOUTH??!!!? - 6/12/2003 11:14:03 PM   
Attack Condor

 

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Status: offline 		Such was the jist of the conversation between the Officer of the Watch and the Commander of [I]Yorktown[/I]

Unfinished buisness, indeed. The gory details:

[I]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/10/42

Weather: Clear

Air attack on TF at 28,58

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
D3A Val x 41

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val x 6 destroyed
D3A Val x 35 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 5 destroyed

PO2 K.Ikeda of EI-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 3

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CL Honolulu, Bomb hits 3, on fire


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Air attack on TF at 28,58

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 13

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate x 2 destroyed
B5N Kate x 3 damaged


Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, on fire, heavy damage


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Air attack on TF at 28,58

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
B5N Kate x 18

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate x 2 destroyed
B5N Kate x 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat x 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


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Air attack on TF at 28,58

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
B5N Kate x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate x 3 damaged

Allied Ships
DD MacDonough
CL Phoenix, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Dale


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In the immortal words of someone: "This don't look good, Tex"

Good job Quark.

Guess the trail of breadcrumbs I left pointing to Townsville didn't fool him :(

Only one thing left to do now.

More to come....

_____________________________

"Shouldn't we be leading the shark into shore...instead him leading us out to sea?"

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Trading Places UV style - 6/13/2003 12:27:36 AM   
Philwd

 

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Status: offline 		Hey Condor I hope you like the new skylights I had installed in Yorktown. My construction crews will come back tomorrow and finish the job :D :D

I had seen his TF the turn before. I didn't know if he was setting up to return and hit the transports or running to Noumea. He definitely wasn't headed back to Townsville this time. I had 2 CV TF in the area and I set the biggest to chase and the smaller to guard south of GG(notice no uber IJN TF). And this time I had react on :D . Won't make that mistake twice. Turns out both TF reacted into range. Only bad part about the extended range is the Kates carried bombs.

Well just need to make sure Yorktown doesn't make port. Three good hits and one AA mount. Probably around 30-40 SYS right now so I'll catch her. My air losses were light. I wonder if the other USN carriers will come out and try to protect Yorktown. Gawd I hope so.

In other news Condor's subs have finally set up outside Truk.

Thanks for the kind words Condor. But it sure feels good to finally get those SBDs :D .

Quark

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It had to happen.... - 6/13/2003 9:51:16 AM   
Attack Condor

 

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Status: offline 		Death of the [I]Yorktown[/I]:

[I]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/11/42

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Sub attack near Port Moresby at 10,40

Allied Ships
SS S-47


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Air attack on TF at 28,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54
D3A Val x 75
B5N Kate x 60

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate x 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hull


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Air attack on TF at 28,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
A6M3 Zero x 8
D3A Val x 14
B5N Kate x 33

no losses


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Air attack on TF at 28,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
B5N Kate x 12

no losses


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Air attack on TF at 28,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 64
D3A Val x 75
B5N Kate x 81

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val x 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Hull, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage


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Air attack on TF at 28,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 8
D3A Val x 14
B5N Kate x 12

no losses


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Air attack on TF at 28,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
B5N Kate x 10

no losses


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I sent in two TFs of destroyers to try and distract the carriers in a vain hope to shake the stricken carrier free of her tormentors, but they were summarily ignored and the end came quicky.

The distractors have scattered, and the destroyer [I]Hull[/I] limps away from the carnage - her own survival in doubt.

Getting too full of myself and my fancy dancing. :(

More to come....

_____________________________

"Shouldn't we be leading the shark into shore...instead him leading us out to sea?"

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Post #: 98
- 6/13/2003 10:45:20 AM   
Philwd

 

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Status: offline 		Yorktown settles to her Coral Sea grave taking a good part of Lex's air wing with her. I'm glad my airgroups didn't go after the decoys. Even though my losses were only 2 more planes I really need to preserve my airwings. As you look at the AAR Condor posted you will see my air groups went back to the Yorktowns spot at least 4 times without finding anything else to attack. Just adding to fatigue.

Starting troop rotations and base re-supply runs now that shipping is freed up from the PM invasion.

Giving my CVs some much needed rest.

Lots of air reinforcements coming now. Finally! Though filling them out has temporarily depleted my pilot pool. Last pilot was 32 exp. I think some of Luskan's strategy here to train them up.

At PM my ASW is still working well spotting S-47 before she could attack.

A new plan is coming together. More to follow.

Quark

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Another Pearl - 6/16/2003 8:06:21 PM   
Attack Condor

 

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Status: offline 		Today's report is a good one for the IJN, and I'll let Quark comment about. I'm sure his carriers got their "much needed rest".

So now I'm carrier-less in the theater, all I can do is build bases everywhere to try and catch up on points.

Good turn Quark :)

Today's report:

[I]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/17/42

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Sub attack at 14,42

Japanese Ships
AP Hokuhi Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
SS Grenadier


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Air attack on Noumea , at 52,67

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 124
A6M3 Zero x 39
D3A Val x 133
B5N Kate x 134

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 48

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 4 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 1 destroyed
D3A Val x 3 destroyed
D3A Val x 27 damaged
B5N Kate x 2 destroyed
B5N Kate x 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 15 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 13 damaged

WO A.Kawasaki of BII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 3

Allied Ships
CV Hornet, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Long Island, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
CA Canberra, Bomb hits 1
DD Henley, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Indianapolis, Bomb hits 1
CV Enterprise, Bomb hits 4, on fire
CA San Francisco, Bomb hits 1
CL Leander, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CLAA Atlanta, Bomb hits 1, on fire


Allied ground losses:
Men lost 74

Port hits 29
Port fuel hits 3
Port supply hits 3

Attacking Level Bombers:
17 x B5N Kate at 10000 feet
16 x B5N Kate at 10000 feet
13 x B5N Kate at 10000 feet
10 x B5N Kate at 10000 feet
12 x B5N Kate at 10000 feet
18 x B5N Kate at 10000 feet
17 x B5N Kate at 10000 feet
14 x B5N Kate at 10000 feet
15 x B5N Kate at 10000 feet

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More to come...

_____________________________

"Shouldn't we be leading the shark into shore...instead him leading us out to sea?"

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Tora! Tora! Tora! - 6/16/2003 9:42:08 PM   
Philwd

 

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Status: offline 		The attack on Noumea exceeded everyone's expectations. When Condor snooped me last turn I thought the gig was up. I kept coming as I didn't think he expected an attack. Condor also only snooped a couple carriers so the threat may not have seemed very great. I also kept coming as I hoped it would draw his LBA from Cairns and the PM convoys. Looks like no carriers were sunk but they'll be gone for quite a while(and come back with a vengeance). I noticed something interesting the Vals attacked the ships while the Kates attacked the port.

The attack was predicated upon several considerations.
First since Condor wouldn't come to me I had to go to him.
Second I couldn't let him get 6 carriers at once.
Third in a port under 2.3 his air wings effectiveness would be greatly reduced and finally in a port flak seems to be greatly reduced. Notice how many fewer planes I lost vs the attack on the SF TF off Lunga. About a quarter of the losses.

I came right down the center between Brisbane and Noumea. After sinking the Yorktown I retired north a couple turns to refuel and also await my last 3 carriers just arriving.

I planned to get within 10 hexes of Noumea and launch at extreme range. As I couldn't pick a target the turn before as I was out of range I was hoping my AI commander would see the big ripe opportunity. And for once he did! I did this so his LBA fighters couldn't reach me so I thought the chances of being attacked were reduced. I also didn't want my Kates carrying torps and torpedoing ships in Noumea harbor. Trying to stay a little historical here.

[QUOTE]I'm sure his carriers got their "much needed rest".[/QUOTE]

Well my air wings got a few turns rest. :D

Condor still has 3 CVs to come. I have to keep my guard up. He has shown what a few carriers can do in hit and run tactics.

more surely to come...

Quark

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- 6/17/2003 10:26:07 PM   
Attack Condor

 

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Status: offline 		Today's combat report, and the IJN press their air assault on Noumea and the ships in port:

[I]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/18/42

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Sub attack at 13,42

Allied Ships
SS S-43


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Sub attack at 12,42

Allied Ships
SS S-47


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Air attack on Port Moresby , at 10,40


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 20


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 1 destroyed
B-17E Fortress x 6 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 12

Attacking Level Bombers:
2 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
5 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
6 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Noumea at 52,67

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
B5N Kate x 47

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 57

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 2 destroyed
B5N Kate x 30 destroyed
B5N Kate x 25 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 damaged

LTJG L. Heinzen of VF-8 is credited with kill number 3

Allied Ships
DD O'Brien
DD Wilkes, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DMS Southard
DMS Hovey
DD Monssen
DD Benham


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Air attack on TF, near Noumea at 52,67

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40
A6M3 Zero x 12
B5N Kate x 65

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 4 destroyed
A6M3 Zero x 1 destroyed
B5N Kate x 6 destroyed
B5N Kate x 14 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 10 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 damaged

LTJG J. Topliff of VF-8 is credited with kill number 3

Allied Ships
AP American Legion, Torpedo hits 1
DD Cushing, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Conyngham, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Lamson
AK Algorab
DD Selfridge
DD Fanning, Torpedo hits 1
DD Preston
DD Porter
DD Dewey, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
Men lost 26


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Air attack on TF, near Noumea at 52,67

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 81
A6M3 Zero x 28
B5N Kate x 17

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 54

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 3 destroyed
A6M2 Zero x 1 damaged
B5N Kate x 3 destroyed
B5N Kate x 12 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 damaged

CPO A.Kurihara of AII-1 Daitai is credited with kill number 8

Allied Ships
DD Lang
AO Kankakee, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AP Hunter Liggett
DD Blue
DD Hughes, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


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An awful lot of aircraft lost to hole a few destroyers. But I'm not the great military mind in this confrontation - so I'm sure there is a master plan in the mind of my opponent.

I'll just stumble along, figuring this out as we go :)

More (i'm sure) to come.......

_____________________________

"Shouldn't we be leading the shark into shore...instead him leading us out to sea?"

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Post #: 102
Ok I got greedy - 6/18/2003 8:36:52 AM   
Philwd

 

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Status: offline 		[I]Aboard the Flagship Akagi[/I]

Adm Nagumo read the damage reports from teh Noumea raid. Two fleet CV crippled and a CVE badly damaged. He was about to order the fleet home when his air officer burst onto the bridge.

"Admiral! Ensign Nakamura claims he saw another american CV on the far side of the harbor. All our attack squadrons missed it."

The admiral fretted. He had taken lost a great deal of face by not pressing a second strike at Pearl harbor. He would not repeeat his mistake.

"Order the fleet closer to cut off the retreat to Luganville. Scouts 2-6 search an arc from Noumea to Espiritu Santo. If there's another carrier out there I want to know. Let's finish the job."
" At once Admiral"

[I]Several hours later[/I]

The admiral slumped in his chair. No carrier had been found at Noumea. Only scores of destroyers that shot up the air wings. Hiryu had no operational torpedo planes left. This was worse than Pearl harbor.

The admiral turned and ordered" All squadrons stand down. Set course for home."


OK I got greedy. For 2 turns my recon has said there's another CV but I give up and am headed home. Hiryu indeed has no operational Kates. I moved in closer to catch any cripples trying to escape but all my flights went after ASW forces. None of the Vals flew last turn. Where is that Samarai spirit? Why do they balk at flying for 2 straight days??? This battle reminds me of some of Rommel's fights. He would win a great victory then whittle away his strength with fruitless further attacks. Overall the losses weren't bad outside of Hiryu. So time to head home and train replacements. The USN will be back for bear real soon I'm sure.

In other news the B-17s are attacking PM in some strength. I haven't moved in substantial engineer forces yet and am debating whether or nor to do so. I actually don't have many yet.

PM is mostly evacuated and has the appropriate defending forces left. :D

I'm not so sure I would characterize my play this game as a great military mind. :( Just got lucky a couple times.

more coming your way soon...

Quark

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Post #: 103
- 6/18/2003 10:42:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice work guys, the pendulum has swung, as it seems to do so often in this game, from Allied to Jap. The surprise of gili has rebounded with the loss of yorktown.

I have to say: attacking Noumea has to be attempted with much thought. Quark you have used it in about the only scenerio I would consider - hitting the CVs in port and sending them to Pearl to give you control of the seas for a bit longer.
My first PBEM game I was Japs and tried a very early invasion of Luganville with the ultimate target of Noumea. This was before support units lent their weight to defence. My opponent put all his bombers into Noumea and the level bombers still had sights - they thumped my transport ships coming in. So I decide to bombard Noumea from newly captured Luganville. He puts 3 surface TFs in port to receive me. Any ship I wanted to sink had to sink during the battle - he sent 3 heavy cruisers back to pearl with SYS in their 90s (one was 99 sys float 80 somthing)!!! Point being even ships that crippled aren't lost.
The bombardments were tiny or repulsed (definately not enough to close the field) and all my ships wounded in the battle had to run the gauntlet of airpower back to Luganville - I got hammered!

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- 6/18/2003 11:07:46 AM   
Philwd

 

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Status: offline 		Thanks Wobbly. I knew Condor would send all the cripples back to Pearl. I just hoped with 130 Vals attacking I would get lucky enough to sink one outright. I think I got close with Hornet taking 9 bomb hits. I wish I had hit her like you hit herbieh's Kaga; 20 bomb hits. That's a lot of skylights. :) Of course as long as Condor doesn't do that to my Kaga. That ship is worth its wieght in gold to the IJN. Only ship with 30 fighters.

The followup attack was a total waste. Although for 3 straight turns now I still see 1 CV in port...

Condor came up with some innovative tactics early that caught me completely by surprise. Put a couple BBs into drydock. Taking PM was very long and drawn out. My troops got great tans lying on the beach that month :) .

Your game is getting very bloody. It will be very interesting to see how it turns out.

Cheers,
Quark

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- 6/26/2003 12:12:19 PM   
Philwd

 

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Status: offline 		Not much to report in the last couple turns. Real life has interferred for both of us so only 2 turns in the last week.

I am continuing to move troops out of PM. Condor has subs stacked from PM to GG. I REALLY REALLY want waypoints. It is very irritating to have to set transport paths every turn to avoid going down known paths where subs can wait.

Ok off my soapbox now :) . Condor torp'd 2 transports last turn. Neither in danger of sinking right away. One made it back to PM.

I see transports coming and going from Luganville with increasing frequency. Hmmm. Wonder what's up there?

After reading many threads in the last week or so I've decided what my next move is after PM. Details to follow shortly. Its turn 81 so I have to move fast. Condor has lost 1 division equiv in GG and PM combined. We are using very variable reinforcements so its likely he hasn't gotten both the 32 and 41st as replacements yet. He has gotten the 1st Marine. So the window is still barely open.

I have fulfilled the first 2 prerequisites I had for moves beyond PM. First sink or neutralize his CVs. Done although I think he will be back up to three within 2 weeks. Lex is coming back with an AA upgrade and Sara/Wasp are due soon. Second is securing PM so Rabaul and the surrounding sea are safe from LBA.

Its interesting to compare Condor's and mine game with Wobbly and Herbieh. We are within a couple days of each other in game time. Their game has been much more bloody(at least to the IJN :D ) Herbieh and I are in roughly the same spot with roughly the same options. I think that's amazing with the different tactics employed. I just hope Wobbly doesn't give Condor too many ideas.:) He's already got too many good ones.

Quark

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- 6/26/2003 9:18:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Finally got ahead of the job enough to breathe and post a reply... The game is starting to get interesting. Quark's clock is ticking and perhaps it will provoke something in the way of a rash movement. We'll see.

I've also learned a very important lesson about just parking my ships at Noumea. Painful lesson, but effective. Steps have been outlined and planned. What I have concluded (in the midst of adjusting my cardigan sweater, re-liting my pipe, and petting my faithful hound at the foot of my leather chair here in the library) was I had a pitiful lack of understanding of screening forces - tantamount to leading with your chin.

Anyway, back to the game......

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Keeping the hounds at bay...... - 6/29/2003 9:49:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Today's combat report, with notations to follow:

[I]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/24/42

Weather: Clear

Sub attack at 11,42

Japanese Ships
AG 360, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage (sunk)

Allied Ships
SS Tautog


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Sub attack at 53,68

Japanese Ships
SS I-3

Allied Ships
SC 637


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Sub attack at 11,42

Japanese Ships
AG 107, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage (sunk)

Allied Ships
SS S-46


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Sub attack at 51,68

Japanese Ships
SS I-1, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage (sunk)

Allied Ships
AK Neleus, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Perkins
DD Aylwin


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Sub attack at 10,61

Japanese Ships
SS I-169

Allied Ships
AP George F. Elliot, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


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Air attack on Gili Gili , at 17,42


Allied aircraft
Hudson x 23


no losses

Attacking Level Bombers:
6 x Hudson at 20000 feet
3 x Hudson at 20000 feet
9 x Hudson at 20000 feet
2 x Hudson at 20000 feet
3 x Hudson at 20000 feet

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Air attack on Woodlark Island , at 22,39


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 39


no losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6

Attacking Level Bombers:
6 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 20000 feet

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All in all, I've had worse turns. Both cargo ships that took torpedos are out of the war, but look like they will survive - [I]Neleus[/I] is already in Noumea and will be sent to PH. [I]George F. Elliot[/I] is one hex away from Townsville, burning brightly - but should not need to be scuttled. We'll see.

Both attacks on the barges resulted in more IJN supplies littering the ocean floor. An IJN AV was reported in GG, and a destroyer in PM. Perhaps the IJN commander intends to do something about the blockade.

The IJN subs are starting to push harder as well. [I]I-3[/I] launched torpedos against [I]SC 637[/I], but the little ship avoided them. The enitre pack then swarmed the contact, but none were able to get any shots off.

My escorts couldn't prevent the torpedo attack against the [I]Neleus[/I], but did extract the ultimate cost from [I]I-1[/I] as the destroyers [I]Perkins[/I] and [I]Alywin[/I] rolled depth charges and scored a total of 3 hits on the sub. Sonar operators on both ships then reported break-up noises from the contact as her depth increased.

The airborne ASW plan in Oz isn't paying off as I had hoped, and a third group is formed and on their way out west to protect the settlers and hunt the bad guys down.

This turn I launched my first real airstrike of this campaign. I so badly wanted to send [I]both[/I] the [I]Hudsons[/I] and [I]B-17s[/I] after GG, but the airbase at Woodlark had aircraft parked there, so I gave it the once over. Not a bad performance from the bomber crews on both strikes. The attack on GG had one good result - increased experience for the Australian crews. Damage to the airbase was reported by the B-17 crews, although even the limited capabilities of the IJN engineers with their bamboo shovels and forced labor should be able to repair that (6 runway hits and 1 airbase hit). The Woodlark raid was also perfectly coordinated from Cairns and Townsville.

The trick is to keep Cairns supplied enough to support level bomber raids like that. One possibility is to ship supplies, but encounters with IJN subs make that proposition risky. The other option is to use [I]C-47 Dakotas[/I], which is safer, but will take more time. If I supply by air, I can keep the level bombers operating out of Townsville until I get the supplies necessary at Cairns to operate from there, striking then at targets on the north side of NZ.

Should the IJN get froggy and invade Austraila, [I]B-25 Mitchells, B-26 Marauders[/I] and [I]Beauforts[/I] will do more than search
for the enemy. I do not envy troops landing with that much airpower operating close to home, fully rested and supplied.

Which means an IJN invasion into Austraila would be prefaced with the usual BB TFs and carrier airstrikes against the bases. I am confident my engineers at those bases can repair the base even from 100% damage to an operational status in no more than 48 hours.

Will it be enough? I'm not certain, but I believe the IJN is going to have to try for an auto-victory. He has to know he cannot hold fully supplied bases that far south for very long against even only my LBA, so in spite of the sabre rattling, I expect him to not begin any attacks in consequence until possible late September or October - reducing the time necessary for him to hold the base and force the US to the peace table.

We'll see. Of that, I'm sure.

More to come......

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- 6/29/2003 11:33:10 PM   
Philwd

 

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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Damage to the airbase was reported by the B-17 crews, although even the limited capabilities of the IJN engineers with their bamboo shovels and forced labor should be able to repair that (6 runway hits and 1 airbase hit).[/QUOTE]

I'll have you know we use only the finest bamboo grown by "contractors" in China and used efficiently by our Korean migrant workers.

Damage at Woodlark fixed. Darn I thought Woodlark was out of B-17 range.

Underseas combat is heating up. He's winning the tally of the subs so far. Most of my successful attacks have ended up with a damaged/sunk sub while he sails blissfully away :( .

I noticed the bombers came in at 20000 ft. A little scared of some flak and fighters ? :)

I had the fighters still stood down. Their morale was so low after the PM operation it still hasn't recovered to > 70. I guess I need more sake and Geishas.

Wherever and whenever I chose to go next will have to face a large contingent of Allied LBA. Appropriate measures will be attempted. I say attempted since the GG operation showed how useless it is to try and keep even a small base closed with Allied eng around. But bombardments and airfield attacks attrit and lower morale which is probably as important.

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- 6/30/2003 12:07:34 AM   
Attack Condor

 

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Status: offline 		[QUOTE][I]originally posted by Quark[/I]

[B]I'll have you know we use only the finest bamboo grown by "contractors" in China and used efficiently by our Korean migrant workers.[/B][/QUOTE]

Clarification needed here: "migrant" = moving from your homes and farms in Korea with the tip of a bayonet in your back :eek:

Sorry my bombers are flying so high. Don't you have any flak or fighters that can reach up that far?

And don't worry; the Woodlark raid was just to give you something to think about (or [I]was it....????[/I] ;) ).

And in the spirit of fairness, as well as good sprotsmanship, I feel obliged to warn you in advance. Move your AA units to GG. You'll need them as I show you how to close a base from the air :).

tick, tock, tick, tock............

More to come :)

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- 6/30/2003 10:19:06 AM   
Attack Condor

 

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Status: offline 		A quiet day today in the Pacific.......:

[I]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/25/42

Weather: Thunderstorms

Sub attack at 10,61

Japanese Ships
SS I-29


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Not really an attack, but my SC TF getting the jump on the IJN sub commander, whose sloppy approach almost cost him.

The IJN battle staff are still pressing attacks with their subs. I wonder how their skippers are taking the latest directive from the planners in Toyko?

On my ASW hunter groups, morale is high, as more and more depth charges find their marks. :)

([I]personal note: still no word from PH about my request to put the Hedgehog ASW weapons on the Benson class of destroyers. Oh well, 'tis nice to dream ;) [/I])

Of course, this may be an attempt to draw my ASW in the open for air attacks (against which they don't defend so well), but my "line of death" doesn't extend very far north anymore - and I'm sure the IJN CV TFs have bigger targets in mind. After all, if their aviation is hunting destroyers and my carrier aircraft happens to find them first, well......... :D

Then again, perhaps a trip [I]north[/I] with my carriers is in order.

Or not ;)

And, in the FWIW category, the new torpedo plane [I]Avenger[/I] is now in theater, releasing the [I]Devastator[/I] to shore based duties :)

Now, if I can convince the eggheads at Pearl (oooops!!! I meant tactical military geniuses :eek: ) to release [I]North Carolina[/I] from her berth at PH....

Of course, having [I]North Carolina, Washington, [/I]and [I]South Dakota[/I] arrive all at once wouldn't be bad either ;)

More to come......

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- 6/30/2003 10:52:13 AM   
Philwd

 

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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Then again, perhaps a trip north with my carriers is in order[/QUOTE]

Pretty Please. I didn't lose THAT many Kates :D .

Quiet turn as my preparations continue. Won't be quiet much longer. :)

[QUOTE]Of course, having North Carolina, Washington, and South Dakota arrive all at once wouldn't be bad either [/QUOTE]

Bring them on. More targets. :D :D I would really love to see Yamato and Musashi in a night combat against those 3. Tanaka vs Lee. (drool drool)

Quark out

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- 7/1/2003 3:19:50 AM   
Attack Condor

 

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Status: offline 		A chance to enter into the AAR prior to events happening today, and a bit of an update.

First, I'm approaching the 5000 point deficit in the score, with the IJN having 22 bases, and the USN only 10. Goro finally became operational, and Tomo is on the verge of opening. I haven't ventured to Basse-Poya or Koumac yet...trying to leapfrog as I go.

From what I've read in other AAR's and threads, I'm starting the new Caledonia base expansion project a bit late, but I wanted to concentrate my engineers in SWPAC on Luganville. The 57th Engineer Bn is currently at work at Tomo, and the 811th EAB is on their way to join them. Finally, the New Zealand engineers (forgot the unit ID - sorry :( with bulldozers will round out my construction team. My goal is to flood the sites on New Caledonia step by step. With that many engineers on the project, a level one base should be no more than 3-4 days away, followed by increasing the levels of the base, fort level, BF, aircraft and INF unit placement - followed by the next base. Pretty standard USN development plan - no reason to change there.

Over at Goro, the 810th EAB is hard at work, and we'll have a level 2 base there within a few days.

Air cover for New Caledonia consists of PBYs and level bombers flying Naval Search missions, TBD [I]Devestators[/I] for ASW detection, fighters for CAP and 3 fully rested [I]C-47 Dakota[/I] squadrons.

Oh, and SBDs of course for anti-ship operations.

The paratroopers assigned to the 1st Marine Div will be in theater within the week.

Meanwhile, in SOPAC, the clear weather means that GG is going to get hit. Every [I]B-17 Fortress[/I] and [I]Hudson[/I] in Oz has been rolled out of the barn and is on their way today from Townsville and Cairns. I'm hoping for a 50 - 60 plane strike against the port facilities there.

More to come................

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- 7/2/2003 12:09:36 PM   
Philwd

 

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Status: offline 		Hmmm. Let's see. A Yank weatherman was overheard saying the forcast for GG was going to be cloudy with planes with a good chance of steel rain. Well the troops did see what looked to be birds flying waaay up high. We saw one splash in the harbor but thought it was some dolphins playing. We also overheard Allied radio saying 2 B-17s didn't return home last turn :D .

I spy the last 3 USN CVs hiding out SE of Noumea. I guess Condor doesn't want them caught in harbor anymore :D :D .

Heavily reconing major bases near me to see if Condor is up to anything. Not like him to sit back. Been too quiet. I see lots of ASW TF in every major port. Luganville is either getting a troop rotation or lots of supplies. Have to see about that.

Reading Luskan's AAR I saw I was doing similar things with my LBA as he did. Readers may have noticed I haven't been using the Nells and Betty's for base bombing. I am training them up for use when the USN shows its face again. I was very disappointed in the results when I tried bombing earlier.

I now have so many LBA in theatre filling out my pilot replacements are in the low 40's high 30's.

My window of opportunity is closing. I will share more operational details as the events unfold. I would share more but the enemy is reading. :)

Quark

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Perhaps they were tired..... - 7/2/2003 7:06:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well now. The CR is unavailable, so the details of my porpise imitation at GG.

Yes I bragged that the skies would be filled with steel rain.

Yes I did have a total of 61 [I]Hudsons[/I] and [I]Fortresses[/I] over the target.

Yes, one bomb actually made it into the vicinity of the harbor.

One.



Perhaps the pilots are closet IJN sympathizers. Right now, I'd trade the lot for a warm beer and a handfull of stale pretzels.

Now, of course, I have to try and survive a rebuilt and rested IJN strike somewhere.

FYI, oh esteemed opponent, is the air observer who is telling you there are three CVs SE of Noumea the same one who told Nagumo there was another CV in Noumea, prompting the famous admiral to launch another strike only to find destroyers in the harbor? :)

More to come.....

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The calm before the storm..... - 7/3/2003 2:47:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you believe the IJN Ministry of Propaganda, their "Great Push" is about to start. Actually, I'm suprised it hasn't yet. Good weather, and lots of transport activity in Lunga and PM.

But no attack.

So the wait continues.

Last turn, 3 IJN ships were spotted almost dead center between GG and Townsville. They were identified as cruisers.

Today, they're still there, but no move south from them. Further recon shows there to be [I]two[/I], TFs in the same hex. A 2xDD SC TF and a 3xCV AC TF.

I wonder if they're bait. It's all I can do to not send an attack force out after them, though :D

Meanwhile, in today's combat report, it's all about the subs:

[I]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/28/42

Weather: Thunderstorms

Sub attack at 54,66

Japanese Ships
SS I-166


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Sub attack near Port Moresby at 10,40

Japanese Ships
AP Tosei Maru, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage (sunk)
AP Teiyo Maru

Allied Ships
SS S-46


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My #2 ASW group in Noumea chases another IJN sub below the waves. After he pulled the plug, the ASW forces couldn't get a fix on him to attack.

[I]S-46[/I], however, scores big in PM harbor, removing another [I]Maru[/I] from the IJN inventory. I hope it was loaded with combat engineers, but it was probably empty. Still, it's one less taxi cab available to the IJN.

More (I'm sure) to come.......

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And now...more preludes - 7/3/2003 12:47:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Still no major attack by my opponent, although a number of major shipping assets are steaming SSW with their sights set on either Townsville or Cairns. No transports detected, but one BB (probably a few more than one ;) ), a few carriers, cruisers, and assorted escort vessels.

Rain gets him closer while my staff watches and wonders what he is waiting for. He could have easily done a night bombardment last turn, although he has an [I]idea[/I] from his recon what awaits him, but doesn't know for sure.

Of course, this could be an elaborate ruse; but for [I]what[/I]?

Combat today stays below the surface, but the IJN gets their licks in this turn, with two torpedos obliterating a small sub chaser who zigged when she should have zagged. Apparently the shock of the explosions covered the sub's escape:

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/29/42

Weather: Partly Cloudy

Sub attack at 10,61

Japanese Ships
SS I-29

Allied Ships
SC 522, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage (sunk)


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I need better ASW assets in the Oz.

More to come....

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- 7/4/2003 12:12:10 PM   
Philwd

 

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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Rain gets him closer while my staff watches and wonders what he is waiting for. He could have easily done a night bombardment last turn, although he has an idea from his recon what awaits him, but doesn't know for sure.[/QUOTE]

Actually I wasn't waiting any longer. Do you know how long it takes for IJN transports to move down to well ... south :) ? Water boils faster.

Last turn every TF had arrived and I ordered them all into Cairns. Well for some unknown reason 5 TF break off and decide to go HOME!!! The Kirishima's battle group even made it back to Rabaul from just E of Cairns in 1 turn!! How did that happen? Did Scotty beam them up? Plus to make matters worse every TF that finished loading up in 3 different ports instead completely unloaded and headed to thier destinations empty. Unloaded in 1 turn when it took 3 to load up.

So I was left with a scattered invasion force. I spent this turn gathering up the lost sheep and sent in what I had gathered. So the attack will go in uncoordinated. But I can't wait any longer.

That was a wasted turn. I hope stuff like this gets cleaned up for WiTP. I mean after all commanders in real life would never run away from the transports. Oh wait..um.. I guess Fletcher did do that but it was an exception. Oh wait again .. well.. uh...I guess you could say Halsey did the same thing. Hmmm. Maybe the game is imitating history after all :D .

This is the last post I will make to this thread. Going forward Condor and I have decided to copy Wobbly's and Herbieh's format and run 2 separate threads. This way we can share our thoughts and maybe our maps freely. Imitation is the most sincere flattery guys. Thanks for starting something new.

Quark

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It begins.... - 7/4/2003 1:16:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Cairns.

Well, it had to happen sooner or later. Trying to coordinate that large of a force seemed to have its own drawbacks - one can envision misunderstood orders, etc. on the part of IJN captains.

Of course, I'll look thoughtful and nod as I agree that such events are indeed frustrating to the IJN commander.

Sure I will. ;)

And awaaaaaayyyy we gooo:

[I]AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 07/30/42

Weather: Thunderstorms

Night Time Surface Combat, near Townsville at 10,62

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu
CA Maya
CA Suzuya
CA Kako
CL Kuma
DD Hayashio
DD Hatsushimo
DD Usugumo

Allied Ships
PG Swan, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
PG Warrego, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
PG Moa, Shell hits 2, and is sunk
AO Kanawha, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Townsville at 10,62

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu
CA Maya
CA Suzuya
CA Kako
CL Kuma
DD Hayashio
DD Hatsushimo
DD Usugumo

Allied Ships
PG Kiwi, Shell hits 13, and is sunk
PG Tui
SC 517
SC 518, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
SC 519, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
SC 520
SC 521, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Townsville at 10,62

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Shell hits 2
CA Maya, Shell hits 2
CA Suzuya
CA Kako
CL Kuma
DD Hayashio
DD Hatsushimo
DD Usugumo

Allied Ships
DMS Trevor, Shell hits 36, and is sunk
AP Fuller, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AP Heywood
AP William Ward Burrows, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Pierce
AP Calvert
AP William P. Biddle
AP Arthur Middleton
AP Ormsby, Shell hits 28, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AP La Salle
AP Esperance Bay, Shell hits 1
AP Moreton Bay


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Naval bombardment of Townsville, at 10,62


Allied aircraft


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson x 1 destroyed
Hudson x 1 damaged

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 22


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Air attack on TF, near Townsville at 10,62


Allied aircraft
Hudson x 20
Beaufort x 15
Wirraway x 13
P-40E Kittyhawk x 13
B-26B Marauder x 15
B-17E Fortress x 36


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson x 1 destroyed
Hudson x 1 damaged
Beaufort x 5 damaged
Wirraway x 1 damaged
B-26B Marauder x 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress x 1 destroyed
B-17E Fortress x 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Sendai, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
CA Kumano, Torpedo hits 1
DD Satsuki, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Yamato, Bomb hits 1
DD Amatsukaze
CA Atago
CL Isuzu, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Attacking Level Bombers:
2 x Hudson at 6000 feet
4 x Beaufort at 200 feet
2 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson at 6000 feet
3 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
2 x Hudson at 6000 feet
4 x Hudson at 6000 feet
4 x Beaufort at 200 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
4 x Beaufort at 200 feet
3 x Hudson at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
2 x Hudson at 6000 feet
3 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson at 6000 feet
0 x Hudson at 6000 feet
4 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x Beaufort at 200 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Townsville at 10,62


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 15


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Yamato
DD Kazegumo
CA Atago
DD Harusame

Attacking Level Bombers:
2 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Luganville at 53,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
G3M Nell x 10

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero x 1 destroyed
G3M Nell x 1 destroyed
G3M Nell x 9 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 4 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat x 1 damaged

LCDR T. Nakajima of F2/Tainan Daitai is credited with kill number 2

Allied Ships
DD Mahan
AP Westralia
DD Mustin

Attacking Level Bombers:
1 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell at 200 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Townsville at 10,62


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5
Hudson x 18
Beaufort x 9
Wirraway x 11
P-39D Airacobra x 9
P-40E Kittyhawk x 13
B-26B Marauder x 11
B-17E Fortress x 22


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu, on fire
CA Kumano, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Yamato
CL Sendai, on fire
CA Atago
DD Kazegumo
DD Murakumo, Shell hits 12, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
4 x Hudson at 6000 feet
4 x Hudson at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x Hudson at 6000 feet
4 x Hudson at 6000 feet
4 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
4 x Beaufort at 200 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
4 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet
3 x Beaufort at 200 feet
3 x Hudson at 6000 feet
2 x Beaufort at 200 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet
3 x B-26B Marauder at 6000 feet

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Air attack on TF at 13,54


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 4


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu

Attacking Level Bombers:
4 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet

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Air attack on TF at 10,52


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7
B-17E Fortress x 3


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress x 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Tokitsukaze

Attacking Level Bombers:
3 x B-17E Fortress at 6000 feet

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Air attack on TF, near Luganville at 53,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
G3M Nell x 6

Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell x 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
AP Westralia
DD Gridley

Attacking Level Bombers:
2 x G3M Nell at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell at 200 feet

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Naval bombardment of Townsville, at 10,62


Allied aircraft


Allied aircraft losses
no losses

LT R.Kelly of VMF-121 bails out and is RESCUED

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 28
Port hits 1


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I understand what Quark was doing now...waiting for my transports to get back to T'ville so he could bombard and get easy kills in one fell swoop.

The LBA performed about as good as I expected, with the B17s doing little more than acting as flak bait. The P-39s actually pulled off the suprise of the action, with a 37mm shell hit penetrating the belt armor of the destroyer [I]Murakumo[/I] and apparently hitting something inside very explosive :D.

[I]Yamamoto[/I] just sat there and lobbed shells. I swear one of the [I]Wirraway[/I] 250-lb bombs actually bounced off her deck and into the sea.

Since we're now on separate threads, I can report Townsville only has 5 runway damage points after the bombardment. It is a level 8 airfield, with 99% construction complete for a level 9 airfield.

The strategy seems quite simple - isolate Cairns with attacks at Townsville, keeping the landing craft at Cairns safe from harm.

No carrier air attacks yet.

Also, can finally reveal my carrier force disposition: [I]Saratoga[/I] is NNW of Brisbane.

That's all.

Yep - one carrier in theater.

Time for the suicide charge into the maelstorm - not.

[I]Saratoga[/I] will transfer 2 SBD squadrons, 1 TBF [I]Avenger[/I] squadron, and 1 F4F squadron to Charter Towers, show herself in the area, and then get back east to play the decoy with empty decks.

[I]Wasp[/I] and [I]Lexington[/I] are in Pearl, awaiting a release date. [I]Enterprise[/I] and [I]Hornet[/I] are still 3 months and 6 months away, respectively.

I'm going to lower the 2 engine bombers to 100 ft and pull the B17s back to Brisbane.

5 subs closing onto the invaders from the north.

More to come....

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- 7/5/2003 12:26:38 AM   
Attack Condor

 

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Status: offline 		Thinking whilst waiting for the next turn (always a risky proposition, thinking is):

4 tankers were seen in Lunga, and I doubt they're support for the Oz offensive. Trouble is probably due for Luganville, if nothing more than to try and draw my attention away from Oz for a bit. I have the naval assets in place to help defend at Luganville (SBDs, TBDs, F4Fs, and PBYs) but the concern is a repeat of the night bombardment tactic possibly closing the airfield. With [I]Yamamoto[/I] in Townsville, however, I doubt he could prevent airstrikes from Luganville in one turn. Perhaps I'll relocate the aircraft and BF to Efate. It would keep them in range to cover Luganville, but out of harm's way in terms of a naval bombardment. Efate is currently at level 4 for the runways.

Anyway, the plane movements in Oz are completed. Charter Towers is getting a small BF airlifted in from Brissy via 2 C47 and 1 PBY squadrons. It won't be enough to fully service the carrier's air wing, but I'll probably move the fighters up to Cairns.

Oz defenses are substantial, with all coastal bases at level 9 fortification. Cairns, the apparent target has the entire 3rd Australian Division in place, fully rested and supplied.

Townsville has the entire Northern Division in place.

Rocky, the 2/3 of the 7th Australian Division, minus some HQ personnel (who are due in Brissy in about 10 days) is the weak spot.

Brisbane has two brigades of the 32nd division, and two brigades of the 41st division are one hex away from Rockhampton, road marching to the base. They will help defend Rockhampton and be my reserve force, able to use the coastal highway to get to T'ville or Brissy quickly should events warrant commiting them.

Quark has landed a blocking force at Ayton already.

They are my first target. The plan is this:
1. Airlift 1st Marine Paratrooper to Brisbane using 3 C47 squadrons. While this is happening, the 2 C47 squadrons will have transfered a small BF to Charter Towers. This should keep [I]Saratoga's[/I] carrier aircraft up and running for a couple of turns.
2. Transfer the SOPAC C47s to Brisbane.
3. The paratroopers and the C47s will be airlifted/transferred to Charter Towers while I move the carrier aircraft to Rockhampton.
4. The paratroopers will then drop onto the blocking force at Ayton. Fighters will cover the operation.

While this is going on, I have two cruiser forces deployed. I hope to get into one of his supply bases and find tankers. I have to cut off his fuel supply. DMS ships are racing to catch the Eastern cruiser force. They will sortie into Lunga, which is no doubt, heavily mined.

The first strike, however, will be from the west, possibly into Woodlark. I have no minesweepers with them, but I have to take a chance [I]somewhere[/I]

I have two 4 ship TFs made up of Gridley class destroyers whose job is to try and make life miserable for the transports and any ASW destroyers escorting them. They are poised near Rockhampton, waiting for the BB TF to withdraw. They will then drive into Cairns, hopefully while his carriers are moving off for fuel.

Also, I spoke with Quark, and we agreed that I'll keep posting the CRs in this thread.

More to come....

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