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Possible bug: FSB options to move ... west??? - 1/29/2016 12:51:41 PM

dhhd

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Every turn or two, I'm given messages asking me if I want to move FSBs westwards. Given that my understanding is that you want FSBs as close to the fighting as possible, so trucks do less work, and given the text in the reports, this seems like a bug

eg, I've got a message from Wagner saying we should relocate from Orsha to Minsk because the closer to the front, the better. But Orsha is definitely closer to the fighting than Minsk is.

I've just been ignoring it - I assume it's a bug.

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RE: Possible bug: FSB options to move ... west??? - 1/29/2016 1:17:24 PM

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It is WAD. It is there to give the option to relocate somewhere else to the player.

It is not always the optimal decision to place the FSB too close from the fighting. For example the Soviets may be doing a successful counterattack or threatening the railway line between your main base and your FSB, or you might have so few viable locomotives that you need to shorten the trains' mileage.

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RE: Possible bug: FSB options to move ... west??? - 1/29/2016 1:30:39 PM

dhhd

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Drakken

It is WAD. It is there to give the option to relocate somewhere else to the player.

It is not always the optimal decision to place the FSB too close from the fighting. For example the Soviets may be doing a successful counterattack or threatening the railway line between your main base and your FSB, or you might have so few viable locomotives that you need to shorten the trains' mileage.

I understand that, but the text makes it confusing: I can't check now because it's a new turn and I've captured a bunch of stuff further east than my FSBs. However, last turn, it pretty much had Wagner saying we should move the FSB to Minsk from Orsha - on the basis that this was closer to the front lines.

So, not a bug, but the flavour text is confusing. Or possibly Gercke swiped Wagner's map as a prank.

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RE: Possible bug: FSB options to move ... west??? - 1/29/2016 2:14:42 PM

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I believe there�s a problem with FSB relocation that I�ve reported twice-

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4015227

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4007320

ATM, the issue doesn�t have much traction with the devs�

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RE: Possible bug: FSB options to move ... west??? - 1/29/2016 2:28:44 PM

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[wrong post]

< Message edited by Philippe at bay -- 1/29/2016 3:32:04 PM >

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RE: Possible bug: FSB options to move ... west??? - 1/29/2016 2:49:47 PM

James Ward

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Maybe it could be changed to a decision where you request to move the FSB and air base, at a cost of 1 pp or something, and not have your staff keep suggesting it. Many times you get it to the place where you are going to keep it for the rest of the game and to alway have to make the decision is an unneeded pain. If you are getting a little tired from 'one more turn' syndrome and make a wrong click it can really ruin your day.

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RE: Possible bug: FSB options to move ... west??? - 1/29/2016 9:33:26 PM

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Hi dhhd,

The top four choices for a new FSB are shown. If you've only got two or three that are to the east then the ones behind you will be used to fill in the quota but they'll be down the bottom of the list of options.

@willgamer,

Nope, looked at it and fixed it. Hopefully.

@Jamesward,

FSB types of decisions are in the special 'ignore them unless you want to deal with them' category of decisions (called 'Ongoing'). Any decisions in this category won't cost you any PP's if you don't deal with them and your Chief of Staff knows not to interfere.

Cheers,
Cameron

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RE: Possible bug: FSB options to move ... west??? - 1/30/2016 1:37:39 PM

dhhd

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quote:

ORIGINAL: lancer

Hi dhhd,

The top four choices for a new FSB are shown. If you've only got two or three that are to the east then the ones behind you will be used to fill in the quota but they'll be down the bottom of the list of options.

Aha, thanks. Is the message supposed to be the same for all?

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RE: Possible bug: FSB options to move ... west??? - 2/1/2016 1:32:16 AM

lancer

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Hi dhhd,

From memory it's the same message with a few datapoints that 'fill in the blanks'. One of them indicates the distance from your current FSB which can be a positive value (ahead) or negative (behind).

Good idea to have different messages to highlight the differences.

Cheers,
Cameron

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