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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 3/22/2016 2:57:27 PM   
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Really don't understand the move here. This area is swarming with dangerous Allied fleets. Why would Japan send a small SCTF like this right at me? I did end up losing 40-50 planes attacking the other destroyers that got away so in net VPs it's a wash but all those planes and pilots are replaceable and ships are not.


It's hard to say without a conversation with him. It could have been a surface intercept foray that missed.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 3/22/2016 6:10:50 PM   
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The CL Kenya would go on to sink. Without naval bombardment I'm not sure how I'm going to take Rangoon. I could be stuck there for many months.


In 1943 the IJN can't afford to trade ships on an anything like an even basis. When he runs low on ships the bombardments can proceed. Perhaps if your TFs were optimized for surface combat at first (e.g., including Fletcher-class DD's), with the serious bombardment vessels to follow in a week or so?

< Message edited by Capt. Harlock -- 3/22/2016 6:11:47 PM >


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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 3/22/2016 6:16:36 PM   
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I fully understand what Japan was trying to accomplish near Ocean.

I bet the cruiser/bb clash was a great one for Japan to watch. All those 5,6 and 8" shells pinging off the armor! That is the kind of fight you love to get into with the Yamoto.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 3/22/2016 7:47:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock
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The CL Kenya would go on to sink. Without naval bombardment I'm not sure how I'm going to take Rangoon. I could be stuck there for many months.

In 1943 the IJN can't afford to trade ships on an anything like an even basis. When he runs low on ships the bombardments can proceed. Perhaps if your TFs were optimized for surface combat at first (e.g., including Fletcher-class DD's), with the serious bombardment vessels to follow in a week or so?

I agree that Japan cannot trade ships on an even basis. But I have no immediate reinforcements in the Indian Ocean; only that medium sized cruiser fleet. Bulk of my fleet is concentrated in the Pacific and I have no plans of sending more to the IO any time soon. So I will just have to settle for a strategic stalemate for a number of months. That being said, keeping the BB Yamato tied down out west is a victory in itself. Would not like to see that ship sortie against my amphibious task forces in the Pacific.


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe
I fully understand what Japan was trying to accomplish near Ocean.

I bet the cruiser/bb clash was a great one for Japan to watch. All those 5,6 and 8" shells pinging off the armor! That is the kind of fight you love to get into with the Yamoto.


No, the Yamato battle was next to Rangoon. Not Ocean Island. I fully understand what Japan was doing in Rangoon and it was a smart move. It's the cruiser sortie in the Gilberts in the direction of my CVs that I don't understand. Best guess is that Rev Rico thought he could sink my ASW fleets.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 3/22/2016 11:24:24 PM   
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I was aware of the battle locations.

The Cl/DD raid going at Ocean which you own, and Nauru is contested.


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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 3/23/2016 8:27:47 AM   
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I've really ramped up my punishment on Nauru. I have about a dozen cruisers and another dozen battleships supported by 50ish destroyers providing continuous bombardment rearming at Ocean Island (4 hexes). Have about 10 AE and AKE in Ocean Island to keep up with this demand. The cruisers can bombard pretty much everyday now because rearming 8 inch guns is fast. BBs can go only every other day. On top of 75 4E, 60 2E, and 200 1E bombers are providing air support. Concentrated firepower and logistics is a beautiful thing :)

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 3/23/2016 8:30:15 AM   
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I decided to change the thread title ever so slightly because of this last post

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 3/23/2016 6:11:37 PM   
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Looks like Japan tried to sneak in an AK into Nauru:

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Nauru Island at 127,128, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
AK Nitti Maru, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied Ships
DD Ammen
DD Philip
DD John Rodgers
DD Spence
DD Stevens
DD Terry
DD Trathen
DD Waller

Japanese ground losses:
1193 casualties reported
Squads: 89 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 40 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 47 (42 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 16 (16 destroyed, 0 disabled)


Surprised Rev Rico would risk an AK carrying an LCU here but there it is.

Allied ships smash Nauru:

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Night Naval bombardment of Nauru Island at 127,128

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Baltimore
CA Wichita
CL Birmingham
CL Marblehead
DD Lang
DD Bancroft
DD McCalla
DD Jenkins

Japanese ground losses:
220 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 2 disabled

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 24
Port hits 4


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Night Naval bombardment of Nauru Island at 127,128

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
BB Indiana
DD Gilmer
DD Stewart
DD Gridley
DD Gwin
DD Dashiell

Japanese ground losses:
183 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (2 destroyed, 3 disabled)
Vehicles lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1


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Night Naval bombardment of Nauru Island at 127,128 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

1 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Royal Sovereign
BB California
BB Pennsylvania
BB Oklahoma
BB Colorado
CL Jeanne d'Arc
DD Stuart
DD Litchfield
DD Allen
DD Fanning
DD Hammann
DD Stanly
DD Sigsbee
DD DeHaven
DD Bullard
DE Levy

Japanese ground losses:
656 casualties reported
Squads: 9 destroyed, 13 disabled
Non Combat: 54 destroyed, 44 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 5 disabled
Guns lost 19 (13 destroyed, 6 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Resources hits 5
Airbase hits 24
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 84
Port hits 14
Port fuel hits 8
Port supply hits 1


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Night Naval bombardment of Nauru Island at 127,128

Allied Ships
CA Frobisher
CA Northampton
CL Columbia
CL Cleveland
CL Phoenix
CL Boise
CL Leander
CLAA Oakland
DD Le Hardi
DD Paulding
DD Hatfield
DD Brooks
DD Clark
DD Reid
DD Hughes
DD Farenholt
DD Duncan
DD Guest
DD Fullam
DD Claxton

Japanese ground losses:
368 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Non Combat: 14 destroyed, 55 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 7 (2 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Resources hits 2
Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 10
Runway hits 58
Port hits 8
Port fuel hits 7


One thing I noticed was that during these bombardments there was only ONE coastal shot fired in defense. Does that mean the defenders are out of supply?

No bombers would fly today unfortunately.

Here's what the base looks like today. Despite these bombardments the Japanese have made a quick recovery of their AV, partially due to reinforcements being brought in. Most likely it was by air so now I have continuous LRCAP.

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Ground combat at Nauru Island (127,128)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 16890 troops, 471 guns, 295 vehicles, Assault Value = 495

Defending force 15317 troops, 171 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 232

Japanese ground losses:
25 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
754th Tank Battalion
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
24th Marine Regiment
19th Infantry Regiment
7th Infantry Division
226th Field Artillery Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
9th Marine Defense Battalion
7th Marine Defense Battalion

Defending units:
26th Ind.Mixed Brigade
2nd Amphibious Bde /1
88th Naval Guard Unit
14th Garrison Unit /1
2nd Naval Construction Battalion
40th JNAF AF Unit
4th Fleet
21st Air Flotilla
32nd Special Base Force
37th JNAF AF Unit
1st IJN AA Battalion


Not sure when I will order my next attack. Perhaps another two or three turns of these bombardments. Nauru is actually rough terrain so I need to be careful. Kind of unfair an island would be both an atoll AND rough terrain but there it is.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 3/23/2016 8:14:31 PM   
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Nauru is actually rough terrain so I need to be careful. Kind of unfair an island would be both an atoll AND rough terrain but there it is.


It is very wooded, much more so than other atolls. x2 doesn't seem like a stretch for that nasty little place.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 3/30/2016 12:33:14 AM   
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Nauru has been very slow. Despite ~1500 casualties per day from bombardment, the LCUs are still holding strong. A deliberate attack also failed to reduce the fort. Could be another week I'm stuck here.

But I did finally pull the trigger on the Port Moresby invasion. I've had this planned for well over a year but I simply did not want to risk it at the wrong time. I noticed a fleet carrier heading back to Japan so I decided this was a good a time as ever. Invasion force was not detected until D-1 so only LBA tried to stop me:

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M4-Q Nell x 18
G4M1 Betty x 18
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 66
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 11
Ki-84a Frank x 2

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 14
P-38H Lightning x 30
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 15
F4F-4 Wildcat x 41
F4U-1 Corsair x 4
F4U-1A Corsair x 18
F6F-3 Hellcat x 108

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M4-Q Nell: 9 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 12 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 11 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
xAP Edgar Allan Poe
xAP Kedah, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 14 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 22
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 19
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 11

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 13
P-38H Lightning x 20
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 15
F4F-4 Wildcat x 38
F4U-1 Corsair x 4
F4U-1A Corsair x 18
F6F-3 Hellcat x 95

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 15 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 3 destroyed

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAP Raranga, Torpedo hits 1
AK Prince Georges

Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 28
G3M4-Q Nell x 18
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 7
Ki-84a Frank x 2

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 13
P-38H Lightning x 17
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 13
F4F-4 Wildcat x 38
F4U-1 Corsair x 4
F4U-1A Corsair x 18
F6F-3 Hellcat x 83

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 9 destroyed
G3M4-Q Nell: 12 destroyed
Ki-61-Ia Tony: 1 destroyed
Ki-84a Frank: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 9 destroyed
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
xAP Tjisadane



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 19,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M4-Q Nell x 22

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 9
P-38H Lightning x 10
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 8
F4F-4 Wildcat x 14
F4U-1 Corsair x 3
F4U-1A Corsair x 12
F6F-3 Hellcat x 58

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M4-Q Nell: 15 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38H Lightning: 1 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Port Moresby at 98,130

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 33
Ki-48-IIb Lily x 23
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 2

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 6
P-38H Lightning x 5
P-47D2 Thunderbolt x 7
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7
F4U-1 Corsair x 2
F4U-1A Corsair x 11
F6F-3 Hellcat x 50

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 9 destroyed
Ki-48-IIb Lily: 9 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-48-IIb Lily: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
APA Elmore
xAP Ville d'Amiens, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Masaya, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

A couple of ships lost but overall I did very well here. I had my CVEs one hex back with most of the fighters at 100% CAP range 1. I also had a lot of range 8 LRCAP here. Seems to have been a good combo here. Keeping the CVEs back a hex was definitely the right move as I don't want them to come under air attack.

Definitely have enough to take the base quickly.

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Ground combat at Port Moresby (98,130)

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 6414 troops, 126 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 243

Defending force 35633 troops, 798 guns, 607 vehicles, Assault Value = 1516

Japanese ground losses:
46 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (2 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Assaulting units:
1st China Assault Division
5th Guard ADU Coastal Gun Battalion
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment
15th Base Force
2nd IJN AA Battalion

Defending units:
640th TD Bn /1
2nd Marine Division
14th NZ Bde /1
41st Infantry Div /1
3rd NZ Armoured Sqn Rgt /1
27th Infantry Div /1
767th Tank Bn /1
XIV US Corps /1
144th USA Base Force /1
225th Field Artillery Battalion
33rd Medium Rgt /1
N Force Detachment /1

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 3/30/2016 2:29:23 AM   
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1st China Assault Division


Port Moresby is a long way from home for those lads!

Kudos for a well-executed amphibious operation. I'm sure those losses will put a dent in his aircraft reserves.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 3/30/2016 3:41:18 AM   
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Here is the butchers bill on the day. There were also some P-51 sweeps over northern Thailand.


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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 3/30/2016 3:58:08 AM   
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Apparently fortifications can be transported by ship! Some of the invaders of Port Moresby arrived with level 5 forts. Others with 0. Probably not an intended mechanic by the developers.


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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 3/30/2016 4:12:15 AM   
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That is a display bug that happens with fractional units. The base the whole unit left from had the fort level.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 3/30/2016 7:14:11 PM   
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December 8th 1943

I haven't been showing all the bombardments of Nauru but this one was especially brutal so I thought I'd share it:

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Night Naval bombardment of Nauru Island at 127,128

Allied Ships
BB Massachusetts
BB South Dakota
BB Montana
BC Strasbourg
BC Dunkerque
BC Repulse
DD Le Fier
DD Flusser
DD Sterett
DD Benham
DD Maury
DD Helm
DD Blue
DD Frankford
DD Doyle
DD Carmick
DD Caldwell
DD Laffey
DD Bradford
DD Beale
DMS Hamilton

Japanese ground losses:
1243 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 108 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 7 (5 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Resources hits 5
Airbase hits 29
Airbase supply hits 7
Runway hits 118
Port hits 23
Port fuel hits 5

The support units based on Nauru are getting crushed under the weight of my firepower. Won't be long until the support units are literally destroyed by the bombardments. Mind you there were additional cruiser and destroyer bombardments which caused an additional 1000 casualties. And when there are no support squads left then the guns will be focused on the combat squads.

Port Moresby falls easily:

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Ground combat at Port Moresby (98,130)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 32454 troops, 789 guns, 607 vehicles, Assault Value = 1517

Defending force 11301 troops, 179 guns, 42 vehicles, Assault Value = 238

Allied engineers reduce fortifications to 4

Allied adjusted assault: 3532

Japanese adjusted defense: 567

Allied assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 4)

Allied forces CAPTURE Port Moresby !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
4454 casualties reported
Squads: 60 destroyed, 21 disabled
Non Combat: 142 destroyed, 53 disabled
Engineers: 53 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 70 (50 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 37 (37 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 5

Allied ground losses:
535 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 99 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Vehicles lost 46 (5 destroyed, 41 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
41st Infantry Division
27th Infantry Division
767th Tank Battalion
2nd Marine Division
14th NZ Brigade
640th Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd NZ Armoured Sqn Regiment
XIV US Corps
33rd Medium Regiment
225th Field Artillery Battalion
144th USA Base Force
N Force Detachment

Defending units:
1st China Assault Division
5th Guard ADU Coastal Gun Battalion
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
15th Base Force
20th Ind. Engineer Regiment
2nd IJN AA Battalion

Unfortunately it looks like most of the defenders will be able to retreat mostly intact to Buna.

And finally here's a look at Nauru:

quote:

Ground combat at Nauru Island (127,128)

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 19890 troops, 533 guns, 393 vehicles, Assault Value = 420

Defending force 9390 troops, 133 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 150

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
24th Marine Regiment
19th Infantry Regiment
754th Tank Battalion
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
7th Infantry Division
226th Field Artillery Battalion
9th Marine Defense Battalion
249th Field Artillery Battalion
7th Marine Defense Battalion

Defending units:
26th Ind.Mixed Brigade
88th Naval Guard Unit
14th Garrison Unit
2nd Amphibious Bde /1
4th Fleet
21st Air Flotilla
32nd Special Base Force

My LCUs are not in great shape here so I'm inclined to wait 4-5 days before launching another deliberate attack. By that time I'm hoping there will only be around 4,000 defenders.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 3/30/2016 7:46:26 PM   
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My LCUs are not in great shape here so I'm inclined to wait 4-5 days before launching another deliberate attack. By that time I'm hoping there will only be around 4,000 defenders.


That sounds a trifle optimistic. There seems to be an issue of "diminishing marginal returns" with bombardments. (Apparently the defenders learn to be faster about getting into their foxholes.)

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 3/31/2016 12:36:21 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock
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My LCUs are not in great shape here so I'm inclined to wait 4-5 days before launching another deliberate attack. By that time I'm hoping there will only be around 4,000 defenders.

That sounds a trifle optimistic. There seems to be an issue of "diminishing marginal returns" with bombardments. (Apparently the defenders learn to be faster about getting into their foxholes.)

You mean I'll start causing less casualties with fewer defenders? I actually do not think this will happen but we will see. The mechanic does make sense though; fewer targets means fewer potential casualties.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 4/4/2016 8:39:22 PM   
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The pace of bombardment has slowed down but because of ammunition issues; my AEs needed to be replenished. But in doing so I found out a more optimal way of using them. Rather than keep them AEs disbanded in port, I keep them in support fleets continuously loading supply. There is a load tender button available for disbanded ships but loading supply the more standard way seems to work a let better. Plan for Nauru is to get all the unit fragments that were left behind (especially of the ID I landed since I cannot split it into thirds for recovery while a fragment its elsewhere) and land them in a shock attack with everyone else. Given how I took Tarawa in a turn when it had a level 6 fort, I am hoping I can do something similar with Nauru. But if things go badly I could end up seeing great number of destroyed squads since my units in Nauru are far from recovered.

I had also neglected to mention that both the CV Enterprise and CV Bunker Hill have taken torpedo hits putting them out of action for some time. But I have two fleet carriers that just arrived from PH to replace them so operations should continue as normal.

Things at Port Moresby are a little sketchy right now. Supply is very low and I sent 5 LSTs to resupply base "covered" by a cruiser fleet. Well the Japanese managed to intercept my LSTs while my cruiser fleet sat idle a few hexes away. I guess my covering fleet was too far away. Japanese now bombing Port Moresby at will with 200+ Helens a day. Developing a new plan now to cover a larger supply convoy of AKs with cruisers, CVEs, and LRCAP. Will likely use a similar approach as I did in the actual invasion though I can probably get some P-39s and P-40s based out of Port Moresby to give some assistance as well with some limited capacity given AF damage and supply issues. As long as the KB doesn't show up it should be OK.

Lastly things in Rangoon are just stuck. I don't see a way forward here. Overall the Japanese have more AV in Burma than I do and my totals include a number Chinese corps. Navy wise we're at parity and while I can suppress his air force with mine, I can't really make an impact on the ground with them except in open terrain. I am bringing in more reinforcements from India to assist in taking Rangoon but even with them I'm only going to have a small edge in AV. Bypassing Rangoon is also out of the question I think because opening up the Burma road is just too important. Pulling out of Burma to assemble a Sumatra invasion doesn't feel like the right either because the Japanese would likely notice my pullout and I am very against the idea of moving fleet assets to the Indian Ocean yet. So I think I will just have to wait, push harder in other theaters, wait for my strength to build up, and wait for the Japanese to start having major crises elsewhere which reduce their ability to defend Rangoon.

In other news my troops in New Caledonia have reached Noumea, attacked it a few times, and turned around. I decided not to prep them for the base because I felt it was better to prep them for actual amphibious landings. The Japanese in Noumea number only 600 AV but are backed by 3x terrain and level 5 forts. I would have liked to have had the Noumea harbor but it's not worth the cost. The base is worth a whopping 650 VPs for Japan but once I destroy the light industry there supply will run dry so those VPs won't count for Japan's total by the end of the war.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 4/5/2016 5:11:40 AM   
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Using the "load tenders" button on disbanded ships can only load up to 1000 operations cycles - i.e. one phase of loading. Loading at dockside lets you use both phases of loading but there would be no ops cycles left to provide replenishment to any ships that need it. You just have to have a whack of AE/AKEs and cycle them as you are doing.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 4/7/2016 5:53:16 PM   
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quote:

Lastly things in Rangoon are just stuck. I don't see a way forward here. Overall the Japanese have more AV in Burma than I do and my totals include a number Chinese corps. Navy wise we're at parity and while I can suppress his air force with mine, I can't really make an impact on the ground with them except in open terrain. I am bringing in more reinforcements from India to assist in taking Rangoon but even with them I'm only going to have a small edge in AV. Bypassing Rangoon is also out of the question I think because opening up the Burma road is just too important. Pulling out of Burma to assemble a Sumatra invasion doesn't feel like the right either because the Japanese would likely notice my pullout and I am very against the idea of moving fleet assets to the Indian Ocean yet. So I think I will just have to wait, push harder in other theaters, wait for my strength to build up, and wait for the Japanese to start having major crises elsewhere which reduce their ability to defend Rangoon.


could you bypass Rangoon (such as take Pegu behind him) and backfill? Sure it doesn't open up the Burma road right away, but at least either cuts him off to make it easier, or possibly he sees the move in advance and pulls back leaving Rangoon underdefended.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 4/7/2016 6:39:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tiemanj
could you bypass Rangoon (such as take Pegu behind him) and backfill? Sure it doesn't open up the Burma road right away, but at least either cuts him off to make it easier, or possibly he sees the move in advance and pulls back leaving Rangoon underdefended.

That's a possibility but I would really need to commit fleet assets for such a move. And I'd probably also need to take the Andamans first but I do have some units getting ready there. I think I'm just going to continue to build up for a push on Rangoon sometime in spring 44. With high stacking limits and only 2x terrain, I think I have the ability to simply overpower the Japanese here.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 4/7/2016 6:57:38 PM   
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Steel continues to rain on Nauru. The defenders are really getting battered. Bombardment ended up destroying all the non LCUs in the hex. Even so my attack was not able to take the base:

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Ground combat at Nauru Island (127,128)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 21752 troops, 550 guns, 414 vehicles, Assault Value = 538

Defending force 5546 troops, 99 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 50

Allied adjusted assault: 198

Japanese adjusted defense: 41

Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 6)

Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 5

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1105 casualties reported
Squads: 55 destroyed, 16 disabled
Non Combat: 42 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 20 (15 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
305 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Guns lost 16 (1 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (1 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Assaulting units:
24th Marine Regiment
754th Tank Battalion
19th Infantry Regiment
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
7th Infantry Division
249th Field Artillery Battalion
9th Marine Defense Battalion
226th Field Artillery Battalion
7th Marine Defense Battalion

Defending units:
88th Naval Guard Unit
26th Ind.Mixed Brigade
14th Garrison Unit
2nd Amphibious Bde /1


Nauru has taken much longer than expected and the Japanese have used the time to strengthen their defenses in the Marshalls. Right now there are around 400 fighters scattered throughout the Marshalls in addition to a SCTF of sort. But in that time I have also brought in engineers, base units, and supply into my newly conquered bases of Makin and Tarawa. Nowhere in the Marshalls is out of range of my LBA fighters but I have yet to seriously challenge the Japanese here. My P47s will have something to say to that soon, however.

And the day before I launched a major CAP trap at Port Moresby with my CVEs shooting down over 100 2E fighters. That gave my engineers a little respite. But they really need more supply. Probably will need a few more supply runs before Port Moresby can defend its airspace by itself.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 4/12/2016 6:30:47 PM   
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Nauru easily fell after that first attack so I focused my attention to the north east. The Japanese had ~500 fighters scattered throughout the Marshalls but as far as I could tell lacked any serious fleet assets. So I devised a plan to bombard the base under the air cover of my Death Star and smash the planes on the ground. But before I was to bombard the base, I turned naval attack OFF for my carrier based planes. In the past few months one of the trends on both sides has been the ineffectiveness of naval strike missions due to heavy CAP. Once again I underestimated the aggressiveness of the IJN and I was made to pay for my cautiousness:

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Tarawa at 135,127, Range 19,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Naganami, Shell hits 5
DD Onami, Shell hits 1
DD Shiratsuyu, Shell hits 4, heavy fires

Allied Ships
CVE Casablanca, Shell hits 9, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Anzio, Shell hits 8, on fire
CVE Manila Bay, Shell hits 4
CVE Battler, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage
CVE Neosho, Shell hits 1
CLAA San Juan, Shell hits 2
DD Conway, Shell hits 1
DD Franks, Shell hits 1
DD Balch
DD John D. Ford
DE Parks
DE Bebas
DE Dionne
DE Doneff, Shell hits 1, on fire
DE Griswold
DE Martin
DE Wileman


The CVE Casablanca was sunk, the CVE Battler heavily damaged, and two other CVEs lightly damaged. All from a trio of IJN destroyers. They were sunk later in the day but the damage was already done. After this I was forced with withdraw my entire CVE fleet for repairs and regrouping.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 4/12/2016 6:49:30 PM   
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Despite the loss of those CVEs from operations, I proceeded with my plan as before. Luckily for me, thunderstorms concealed the location of the entire Allied fleet minus the slow BBs which were at Makin. I noticed there was a small cruiser fleet sitting at Ailinglaplap where the Japanese 200 fighters so I sent in two groups of BBs to take care of the cruisers and smash the airbase. Cruisers and destroyers hit the other bases while the slow BBs hit Mili. Things did not start well at Ailinglaplap:

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ailinglaplap at 133,117, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Ashigara
DD Takanami, Shell hits 3, on fire
DD Fubuki, Shell hits 10, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Usugumo
DD Isonami

Allied Ships
BB Montana, Shell hits 1
BB South Dakota, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Strong
DD Gwin
DD Carmick
DD Sterett
DD Flusser
DD Gilmer
DMS Hamilton, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage


Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 46% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Range closes to 23,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 23,000 yards
Range closes to 17,000 yards...
Range closes to 11,000 yards...
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
CONTACT: Allied lookouts spot Japanese task force at 11,000 yards


Willis "Ching" Lee was the commander of that TF so it definitely was not an issue with the commander. It just seems like radar doesn't help at all in these engagements and I come out the worse each time.

The other bombardment TFs found their mark, however:

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Night Naval bombardment of Roi-Namur at 132,114

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8-J Zero: 38 damaged
A6M8-J Zero: 2 destroyed on ground
A6M8 Zero: 76 damaged
A6M8 Zero: 6 destroyed on ground
D4Y1 Judy: 34 damaged
D4Y1 Judy: 3 destroyed on ground
B6N2 Jill: 15 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Boston
CA Baltimore
CA Wichita
CA Northampton
CLAA Oakland
DD Clark
DD Walke
DD Doyle
DD Gansevoort
DD Halford
DD Bush

Japanese ground losses:
367 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 30 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 7 (1 destroyed, 6 disabled)

Airbase hits 30
Airbase supply hits 15
Runway hits 63
Port hits 20
Port fuel hits 8
Port supply hits 6


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Night Naval bombardment of Ailinglaplap at 133,117

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 287 damaged
N1K1-J George: 8 destroyed on ground
A6M8 Zero: 7 damaged
A6M8 Zero: 2 destroyed on ground

Allied Ships
BC Strasbourg
BC Dunkerque
BC Repulse
DD Stewart
DD Benham
DD Helm
DD Blue
DD Frankford
DD Caldwell
DD Laffey
DD Dashiell
DMS Hovey

Japanese ground losses:
263 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 40 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 10 (3 destroyed, 7 disabled)

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 82
Port hits 23



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Night Naval bombardment of Wotje at 135,115 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8-J Zero: 10 damaged
A6M8-J Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

302 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
DD McCook
DD Satterlee, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Bailey, Shell hits 3
DD Woodworth
DD Saufley
DD Hazelwood
DD Harrison
DD Eaton

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 8
Port hits 4


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Night Naval bombardment of Kwajalein Island at 132,115 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8-J Zero: 78 damaged
A6M8-J Zero: 5 destroyed on ground
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 63 damaged
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 2 destroyed on ground

227 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Japanese Ships
DD Kuwa, Shell hits 2, on fire
SS I-19, hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
CL Birmingham
CL Columbia
CL Cleveland
CL Phoenix, Shell hits 1
CL Boise
CL Marblehead, Shell hits 2
CL Leander
DD Le Hardi
DD Paulding
DD Brooks
DD Reid
DD Bancroft
DD Duncan, Shell hits 2
DD Fullam
DD Claxton

Japanese ground losses:
256 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 19 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 38 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 18 (2 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 16
Runway hits 103
Port hits 1
Port fuel hits 1


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Night Naval bombardment of Wotje at 135,115 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8-J Zero: 43 damaged
A6M8-J Zero: 1 destroyed on ground

195 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
DD Waller
DD Trathen
DD Terry
DD Taylor
DD Stevens
DD Spence
DD John Rodgers
DD Ringgold
DD Philip
DD Bradford
DD Beale
DD Ammen

Japanese ground losses:
121 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 32
Port hits 15
Port supply hits 2


That was enough to knock out all the fighters from the air. My sweeps hit nothing and my bombers flew in unopposed. In retrospect I should have turned on naval strike for my CVs so they could have sunk that small cruiser force which escaped pretty much unharmed. But about 100 fighters were destroyed on the ground and many more are damaged stuck on their atolls so it was a strategic success, even if at a higher price than I would have liked.


I also went after Mili with my slow BBs even though I detected no fighters. But the counterbattery fire at Mili was something else:

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Night Naval bombardment of Mili at 136,121 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K2 Emily: 3 damaged
H8K2 Emily: 1 destroyed on ground

414 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
BB Royal Sovereign, Shell hits 13
BB California
BB Pennsylvania, Shell hits 38, on fire
BB Arizona
BB Oklahoma, Shell hits 2
BB Nevada, Shell hits 36, on fire
BB Colorado
CL Jeanne d'Arc
DD Harwood
DD Tenedos
DD Vampire
DD Stuart
DD Allen
DD Drayton
DD Fanning
DD Hammann
DD Thompson
DD Sigsbee
DD DeHaven, Shell hits 1
DD Bullard
DE Levy, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
526 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 21 (2 destroyed, 19 disabled)

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 11
Port hits 20


I guess the Mili naval fortress has a lot of big guns. Many months earlier I decided to bypass Mili because it seemed too well defended. This definitely vindicates that decision.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 4/12/2016 7:42:46 PM   
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To be perfectly honest, before this turn I was relatively unsatisfied with my operations in the Marshalls over the previous two days. Yes I smashed his airbases and a bunch of planes but in doing so I lost some valuable fleet assets. No matter what, the BB South Dakota was going to be out for a long time. But having cleared the air bases, I turned naval strike back on for my CVs. My plan was to hit some support ships in port, but as it would have it the IJN decided to launch a major counterattack. Rev Rico would claim after the turn that he had been "waiting for weeks" to ambush me which I scoffed at as being typical for Japanese fanboys. Rev Rico might be as old as my dad but he lacks the patience I have had in this game. I have waited much much longer than few weeks for the moment to strike because I need the right conditions. Certainly luck was a factor here but the idea of charging at a fast CV fleet without adequate air protection is nothing less than a suicide mission. It's hard to imagine any outcome where at least a few Japanese BBs were not sunk because his fleets were certainly not going to disable all my CVs before they could launch planes.

The night started with the fast Japanese SCTF smashing into the damaged BB South Dakota and most likely sinking it:

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Ebon at 132,121, Range 12,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CB Kasuga
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
DD Suzunami, Shell hits 1
DD Oshio
DD Akatsuki
DD Ikazuchi
DD Uranami
DD Yugiri

Allied Ships
BB South Dakota, Shell hits 15, on fire, heavy damage
DD Flusser
DD Gilmer, Shell hits 1


Then the slower and larger SCTF found my carriers. This time my escorts did an excellent job protecting my CVs and managed to even get a torpedo hit on the BB Yamashiro:

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Mili at 135,121, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu
BB Fuso
BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1
CLAA Kinu
CLAA Kuma
DD Hanazuki
DD Urazuki
DD Kiyonami
DD Harusame
DD Momo
DD Take
DD Ume, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
CV Essex
CVL Princeton
CVL Belleau Wood
CVL Monterey
CVL Varennes, Shell hits 1
BB Massachusetts, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Guest
DD Hudson
DD Kidd
DD Lardner
DD Hughes, Shell hits 1
DD Lang
DD Case
DD Humphreys


Then a third SCTF smashed into a Fletcher fleet. As we have seen many times in the past, single BB guarded by a couple of destroyers is a terrible matchup against a larger number of Fletchers. More often than not, the Fletcher torpedoes will find their mark against a big target at relatively short range:

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Mili at 135,122, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Asagiri
DD Amagiri, Shell hits 3, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Beale, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Bradford, Shell hits 1
DD Philip, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Ringgold, Shell hits 2
DD Taylor
DD Waller, Shell hits 2


The Japanese got some revenge later with the other TF led by the CB Kasuga and sunk most of these destroyers but of course a Fletcher is only 1/20th the VP cost of a BB so I'll take that trade every day.

And finally, my CVs launched their revenge strikes in the morning. Japanese LRCAP was terrible and I shot down more planes than I lost:

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Mili at 135,122

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 36
A6M8-J Zero x 4
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 25

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 93
SBD-3 Dauntless x 26
SBD-5 Dauntless x 104
TBF-1 Avenger x 114
TBM-1C Avenger x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 5 destroyed
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 6 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 12 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
TBF-1 Avenger: 10 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 1 destroyed by flak
TBM-1C Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CA Myoko
BB Mutsu, Bomb hits 7, on fire
BB Fuso, Bomb hits 1
BB Nagato, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CA Haguro, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk

DD Uranami, on fire
CLAA Kuma
DD Take


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Jaluit at 134,121

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 29 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 11
TBF-1 Avenger x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk


And just like that I sunk two BBs, one CA, and perhaps a third BB as well. I believe the only CBs/BBs that did not participate in the battles today are the BB Yamato, BB Kirishima, and BB Kongo. So the losses today represent a good 1/3rd of the remaining ships of that category. But these losses could be compounded. I need to load up the game before I make a decision but I am considering send my fast CVs charging towards Ponape where the Japanese are likely to flee given that it's the closest base outside of bomber range. Very good chance the KB could be waiting for me but even with LBA from Ponape I think I still might have the upper hand. Alternatively I might try a multi-day approach and bring my surface assets under the protection of the Death Star and get Ponape in range for bombardment. Though fuel might be an issue there as I did lose 2 AOs during the surface battles.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 4/12/2016 8:10:01 PM   
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Kudos to both sides for some tough fighting but I think you definitely got the upper hand in these exchanges. Really nice to see those Japanese BBs go down.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 4/13/2016 5:50:36 PM   
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December 21st 1943: Death of the IJN

Given that my carrier fleets were well intact, I ordered a full speed dash to cut off the retreat rout of the Japanese BBs. I had some concern the KB would pop up but bewilderingly after multiple days of battle they were nowhere to be found. In my opinion it was an enormous tactical mistake to send in a huge BB fleet without the KB as I could concentrate exclusively on those surface ships. Unsurprisingly, my carriers had no issues dealing with the remaining LRCAP an IJN in the Marshalls:

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Kwajalein Island at 132,115

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-IIb Oscar x 8
Ki-61-Ib Tony x 1

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 177
SBD-3 Dauntless x 26
SBD-5 Dauntless x 144
TBF-1 Avenger x 99
TBM-1C Avenger x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-IIb Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-61-Ib Tony: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 32 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 9 damaged
TBM-1C Avenger: 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
BB Mutsu, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CB Kasuga, Bomb hits 10, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Asagiri
CA Myoko, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Oshio, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk
DD Amagiri, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Akatsuki, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Take
DD Ikazuchi, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Suzunami, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Harusame, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CLAA Kinu
DD Kiyonami
DD Hanazuki, Bomb hits 1, on fire



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Kwajalein Island at 132,115

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 29 minutes

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 196
SBD-3 Dauntless x 26
SBD-5 Dauntless x 134
TBF-1 Avenger x 79
TBM-1C Avenger x 4

Allied aircraft losses
SBD-3 Dauntless: 2 damaged
SBD-5 Dauntless: 20 damaged
TBF-1 Avenger: 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso, Bomb hits 5, heavy fires
CLAA Kinu, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
CB Kasuga, on fire, heavy damage
DD Asagiri
BB Mutsu, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
DD Ume, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Take, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
DD Harusame, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Momo, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Urazuki, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
CLAA Kuma, Bomb hits 2, on fire
DD Kiyonami, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Hanazuki, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Just a pure bloodbath there. Allied fighters also found their mark sweeping the atolls of the Marshalls with very good K/D ratios. It looks like some of IJN ships might still be afloat but it's hard to imagine them going very far at this point. No more torpedoes left but I should be able to finish off the remaining ships with bombs alone. Assuming I do, that would mean I sunk a total of 6 BB/CB in just a few days which is more than I'd sunk in the war up until this point.

Rev Rico has basically admitted the IJN is gone at this point. Perhaps a little bit of an overstatement because I know he still has some CVs and perhaps two dozen cruisers but definitely this is a huge blow. But of course 1944 hasn't even begun yet and Japan still leads me in VPs and I don't even have a foothold in the Solomons yet. At this point I want to more or less continue my original plan of encircling Rabaul from the south, east, and north. But looking past that I considering some very aggressive strategies in mid 1944 and beyond. Auto-victory by 1945 should be my goal and in order to do that I'm going to have to make some bold moves.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 4/13/2016 6:12:55 PM   
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That was just a big beat-down.

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 4/15/2016 1:04:15 AM   
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quote:

Just a pure bloodbath there. Allied fighters also found their mark sweeping the atolls of the Marshalls with very good K/D ratios.


A spectacular job! (I wonder if the flak guns were largely 25mm, which might account for the large number of damaged aircraft but relatively few outright losses.)

Ot of curiousity, what's the current situation for South Dakota?

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RE: Straight Into the Teeth: A Story of Blood, Patience... - 4/15/2016 7:21:50 PM   
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Just a pure bloodbath there. Allied fighters also found their mark sweeping the atolls of the Marshalls with very good K/D ratios.


A spectacular job! (I wonder if the flak guns were largely 25mm, which might account for the large number of damaged aircraft but relatively few outright losses.)

Ot of curiousity, what's the current situation for South Dakota?

Oh ya, most of the damaged planes were from the flak. All my fighters were flying at 10k feet (laziness because I didn't think they would be needed) but that seemed to keep the Japanese fighters from reaching the bombers so most of the damaged planes were from flak. I would imagine it was those 25 mm guns that caused most of the damaged planes. As we know historically those 25 mm guns were really inadequate when compared to the 40 mm Bofors guns that the Allies used extensively. And of course those 5 inch guns were even deadlier and in my CV battles often accounted for more losses than CAP.

The BB South Dakota is sunk. Oh well.

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