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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/16/2016 1:52:32 AM   
rkr1958


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By the way, I'm using powerpoint to do this AAR. Is the size or quality of the graphics I'm posting ok? If not, I could go back to the way I did before, which produced larger graphics but caused me more effort.

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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/16/2016 8:52:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Are you going with Fall Gelb or Poland first? I remember you talked some time ago about Fall Gelb but all ARM units are in east...

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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/16/2016 11:38:54 AM   
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Are you planning try "Fall Gelb" with Germany? Or normally take Poland and next spring attack west?

If you are going with "Fall Gelb", you should set up all ARM units to west. In my AAR I took Poland using about 11 INF corps and one INF div. And maybe I sent that MECH to Poland too. I also set up Ju52 to Polish front to reorganize Königsberg MIL as soon as possible.

I wasn't sure where to put the German armor (West or East). My Polish defenders are always setup in cities, so I can see how setting up the German armor against Poland is a waste. Your allocation for setup of the German units between the East (Poland) and the West makes sense. I'll give it a try next time.

I did set up and use the Ju52 in the West for reorg. SPOILER: Surprise French and CW ground strikes were moderately successful and disorganized three units including the German 1-4 infantry division. I used the Ju52 to reorganize that division and von Bock to reorganize the two other units and one reserve corps.

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ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer
My advice is not to keep transporter with units in north sea with CW. If Germany takes combined and get lucky it may cost too much. In my AAR I got lucky and CW lost transporter with MECH and another transporter was damaged. CW was not able to bring units in Netherlands or France, Fall Gelb was perfect success and Paris fell super early (I would say J/F 1940 if I remember right).
SPOILER: I'm up to the first impulse of the JF40 turn and the weather is horrible and has been for the Germans after the first scripted fine weather impulse of the game (i.e., SO39). So due to weather there has been no "early" Fall Gelb. As my AAR unfolds I would appreciate discussion from this community on whether or not I made the right decision to wait (as the Germans). This decision, as the Germans, has been fueled by the fact that the British have had at least 2 "extra" corps in the North Sea ready to intervene in the Netherlands if the Germans invaded and didn't capture both Rotterdam and Amsterdam on the surprise impulse. This CW reaction force has been put in the 3 box (of the North Sea) directly defended (i.e., in Sea box 3 too) by 3 RN aircraft carriers, 3 to 5 battleships and at least 3 heavy cruisers. Also, the RN has put at least 2 heavy cruisers in the 4 box. And then there are the French who have a battleship and two heavy cruisers initially place in the 4 box of the North Sea. As the CW player I take the attitude that the RN controls the seas and invite the German Homefleet to a second round of "Jutland". As the German player, I'm willing to risk the KM and a couple of division if it means the total conquest of Holland on the surprise impulse, which keeps the pesky the British from intervening and becoming a pain.

Am I being too bold as the CW? Too cautious as the Germans?

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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/16/2016 2:53:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I posted the RN in a similar way but fell foul of the dreaded 1:10 search split when Mayhemizer sent almost the entire Kriegsmarine. Scratch 2 Trans, the BEF and practically the game from that moment on. Just warning you of the risk.

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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/16/2016 9:25:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rkr1958
Am I being too bold as the CW? Too cautious as the Germans?

I am a believer in sending out CW TRS to the North Sea.

If you have horrible weather, there is not much that any side can do. Given horrible weather, I would wait for the Germans, and take the Netherlands using the PAR when you get it.

The thing I like least about WiF is the overriding importance of the weather rolls.

In my face to face games, we never had "average" weather. Some games the weather went great for the Axis; other games it went great for the Allies. The games it went for the Axis, the Axis won; those it went for the Allies, the Allies won. This did not make us feel that our skill as players had much to do with the outcome of the game, which was disheartening.

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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/17/2016 12:32:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can somehow feel the sentiment of Courtenay about Weather rolls and turn length.
It's dishearting to see the "Barbarossa" May / Jun and Jul / Aug ending at the 1 / 2 rolls required to have the turn end. And it happened. (With a May of 7 impulses total, 3 of the Axis).

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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/18/2016 1:40:47 AM   
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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/18/2016 1:42:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		No Sep/Oct 1939 Fall Gelb. Not even the conquest of Denmark due to poor weather (rain) in the North Temperate this turn.




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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/18/2016 1:44:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Brits deployed Gort and a 7-4 mot corps to France. They kept a second mot and a mech corps in the North Sea ready to pounce (i.e., intervene) if the Germans did invade the Netherlands or Denmark this turn. The force returned to base to Plymouth and is ready for similar duty (i.e., on Alert in the North Sea) with an additional 3rd corps next turn.

Bottom line, a Sep/Oct 1939 Fall Gelb scratched because of weather!




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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/18/2016 2:04:20 AM   
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Even with lousy weather in the North Temperate and the Arctic, and with significant ground, air and naval forces deployed in the West waiting for a Fall Gelb that never happened, Germany with able to finish off Poland with no land losses or disorganization. Well, von Leeb was disorganized by a lucky Polish ground strike and the Luftwaffe lost a fighter and pilot to the Polish fighter. Other that that things went remarkably well for the Germans in Poland.

The Soviets used the German invasion of Poland as a pretense to take Eastern Poland, the Baltic States and claim Bessarabia. Germany allowed the claim as well as Hungary's and Bulgaria's claim against Romania.




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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/18/2016 2:06:50 AM   
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Germany's other losses came from two French sub units working in the Baltic Sea which sank 4 German CPs and forced a 5th to abort leaving the 3 Scandinavian RPs idle with no way to get to Germany this turn.




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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/18/2016 2:07:49 AM   
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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/18/2016 2:08:34 AM   
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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/18/2016 2:10:45 AM   
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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/18/2016 2:14:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		1. Sep/Oct 1939. East Africa. The French 3rd Inf Division transferred from Metropolitan France through the Suez Canal to French Somaliland to guard against a possible Italian incursion there.

The Italians are still neutral by the way. It just wasn't the German's plans for a Sep/Oct 1939 Fall Gelb that was ruined by the weather. A first turn entry by the Italians into the war was also ruined.




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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/18/2016 2:29:23 AM   
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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/18/2016 2:29:55 AM   
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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/18/2016 2:31:59 AM   
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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/18/2016 2:33:25 AM   
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USA choose option 15 in order to immediately start sending oil to the CW for storage in Canada.




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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/18/2016 2:34:44 AM   
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The USA starts with 2 oil points sent to the CW.




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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/19/2016 1:54:31 AM   
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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/19/2016 2:10:24 AM   
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Once again the weather in the North Temperate combined with the British on alert in the North Sea conspired to keep the Germans from launch a 1939 Fall Gelb.

Snow in the NT did allow the Germans to invade and conquer Denmark without fear on the first axis impulse, impulse #4. However, with amphibious invasion not possible in snow, the risk of CW intervention even on the last axis impulse, impulse #13, was deemed too large of a risk to take. Let me explain. If the Germans had DOW the Netherlands on their last impulse, then as the allies I would have placed the Dutch corps in the hex with the RP (the hex across the lake and directly east of Amsterdam). While that Dutch corps would have easily been destroyed it would have prevent the Germans from capturing both Rotterdam and Amsterdam on the surprise impulse. With two CW corps on alert in the North Sea, if the turn had continued (30% chance) then the CW could have disembarked a corps to Amsterdam and one to Rotterdam, seriously complicating the German's life. As the German player, that 30% chance was too high of a risk so no invasion.

A follow-on strategy question. Even if the Germans had their airborne corps ready, if the Dutch corps is setup in the hex containing the RP, don't the Germans still need a successful amphibious invasion to ensure that both Amsterdam and Rotterdam are captured on the surprise impulse and ensure that the British are kept out, assuming the Brits have one or more units on alert in the North Sea?

By the way, the CW beefed up the BEF France with a mech corps which is under the CW 7-4 mot corps.




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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/19/2016 2:11:26 AM   
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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/19/2016 2:12:02 AM   
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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/19/2016 2:12:28 AM   
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The communist slip a 3-3 Mil unit through the Japanese lines and seize a RP. The Japanese lose a second RP to Chinese partisan that appears across the mountains to the north.




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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/19/2016 2:14:19 AM   
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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/19/2016 2:17:37 AM   
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Switch to Eastern Europe, the Soviets after successfully acquiring Eastern Poland, The Baltic States and Bessarabia without bloodshed move strong forces to their border with Finland in preparation for demanding the Finnish Borderlands, and if denied going to war with Finland. Of course, the Soviets will wait until the Germans are tied up in the West before making such a demand of them.




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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/19/2016 2:19:56 AM   
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Watching their oil. Japan forgoes reorganizing two of their battleships in favor of not having to spend a second oil point.




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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/19/2016 2:21:16 AM   
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Italy avoids having to expend any oil by forgoing the reorganization of one of their two transports.




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RE: Global War AAR in Pictures - 2/19/2016 2:23:28 AM   
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Even the CW get in on the act and avoids spending an additional oil point by not reorganizing one of their older heavy cruisers.




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