rkr1958
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ORIGINAL: Cohen As Germany I stopped to produce subs in my latest games in fact. And we even use a custom rule that Land Based airplanes are not as efficient (as per there is a variable in Surprise Points to avoid the Naval-Air combat) so that a short range plane placed at the 0 box is not that good. Still, Germany has way better uses of their BPs, their Oil, and their actions (A combined is often a weight once Barbarossa has started and if it's taken it's to move more planes and some lands units which are necessary, more so than doing a raid against the W.Allies). Personally, I don't see an issue with putting a fighter unit, with no air to sea factors, into the 0-box to make it harder for German subs. Whether or not that fighter unit was there before or put there after the German player announced combat in that sea area. I simply view this as using fighters to spot for u-boats which would help convoys better to avoid them. U-boats travel much faster on the surface than submerged. In fact, in general, that's how they traveled from point to point except when aircraft or warships were present. So, it seems natural to me that a u-boat commander would submerge if he saw he was spotted by a fighter fearing follow up attacks by torpedo or bomber planes. A u-boat on the surface was highly vulnerable to attacks from the air and sea. So my experience leads me to believe that MWiF, and I assume WiF, handles the Battle of the Atlantic and the submarine action in the Pacific very well as is and doesn't need any house rule modifications. In simpler words, I feel that having a fighter in box 0 to force the Germans to have at least 4 surprise points, and use those points to force a sub combat is realistic. In my game German u-boats and Japanese I-boats have sunk 58 allied CPs and forced another 38 to abort. To start with that's 58 build points that the allies could have used for other things. Then there's the additional cost, effort and frustration that the axis submarine threat has caused the allies. Effort taking away from other endeavors such as their ground war or strategic bombing of Germany. In fact, if the axis mounted no credible sub threat, as the allied player I probably would have axis industry and oil bombed down significantly. More simply put, I feel that the Battle of the Atlantic and Japanese I-boats in the Pacific are effective tools that the axis have to blunt the allies. I feel it diverts attention and significant resources resulting in less pressure or later pressure exerted from the Western Allies on Germany, Italy and Japan.
< Message edited by rkr1958 -- 6/26/2016 5:52:12 PM >
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