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A6M3 vs P-38G - 3/3/2016 12:14:15 PM

Odin

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Hello guys,

in my current Guadalcanal game AI has 150+ Fighters at Rabaul, mostly A6M3 i believe.

Sending my B-17 and B-24 bombers in everytime results in a lot of damaged aircraft, and some of them shoot down, while scoring only a few hits on airfield.

Thats eats me up...now i think to use my beloved P-38 as escorts against Rabaul, but when i compare them in the details, the A6M seems quite better at any altitude.

Aside from that they have only 55-60 Exp...i am not shure what will come out.

Or will they perform better in a sweep?

Suggestions?

Thanks:-)

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RE: A6M3 vs P-38G - 3/3/2016 12:59:10 PM

Jorge_Stanbury

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P-38s are faster, has better durability, armor and very powerful armament. Only use your best pilots in them

And send them to the fight, but not as escort. Instead do multiple days of sweeps at the highest altitude allowed by your HRs (EDIT: against the AI, go with 20K as it is a fair altitude). This will soften up the base, in the meantime you can use your bombers at nighttime

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RE: A6M3 vs P-38G - 3/3/2016 3:00:28 PM

Alfred

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Odin

Hello guys,

in my current Guadalcanal game AI has 150+ Fighters at Rabaul, mostly A6M3 i believe.

Sending my B-17 and B-24 bombers in everytime results in a lot of damaged aircraft, and some of them shoot down, while scoring only a few hits on airfield.

Thats eats me up...now i think to use my beloved P-38 as escorts against Rabaul, but when i compare them in the details, the A6M seems quite better at any altitude.

Aside from that they have only 55-60 Exp...i am not shure what will come out.

Or will they perform better in a sweep?

Suggestions?

Thanks:-)

Or you could try being realistic with the assets you have and formulate an operational plan which takes into account the force capabilities which you have rather than some wishful thinking.

Alfred

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RE: A6M3 vs P-38G - 3/5/2016 8:52:36 PM

kbfchicago

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Alfred

quote:

ORIGINAL: Odin

Hello guys,

in my current Guadalcanal game AI has 150+ Fighters at Rabaul, mostly A6M3 i believe.

Sending my B-17 and B-24 bombers in everytime results in a lot of damaged aircraft, and some of them shoot down, while scoring only a few hits on airfield.

Thats eats me up...now i think to use my beloved P-38 as escorts against Rabaul, but when i compare them in the details, the A6M seems quite better at any altitude.

Aside from that they have only 55-60 Exp...i am not shure what will come out.

Or will they perform better in a sweep?

Suggestions?

Thanks:-)

Or you could try being realistic with the assets you have and formulate an operational plan which takes into account the force capabilities which you have rather than some wishful thinking.

Alfred

Put another way... so, we're two Area Commanders having a rum at the O'Club in Brisbane...

We'll Odin, sounds like you've got a tough nut out there in Rabaul. Why are you attacking it at all?

Oh, you want to kill off the Zeros. Ok, Sweep is a better way to kill them faster vs. bombing them. Jorge had some great points on effective sweeping.
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So, you want to jam up the airfield and keep if from operating AC against your invasions in the area. You're going to need to get rid of the fighters before you can really do damage to the base from the air. You may want to consider a "3" punch approach. Sweep daytime, bomb night time while fighters remain strong, then send in a BB TF to bomb the crap out of e'm of couple of times to hurry the damage along. Once the field is heavily damaged, even if there are still quite a few fighters you should dominate during the day for both sweep and bombing runs.
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You want to invade Rabaul? Really? Bartender...this man has had too much rum!

Happy game'n!

Kevin

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RE: A6M3 vs P-38G - 3/5/2016 10:36:22 PM

JeffroK

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Small bites.

Whats at Munda, Shortlands, Buka??

Draw out the Zekes, make them defend from either underprepared stripsor LRCAP at range.

Get bases set up closer to Rabaul so your shorter ranged fighters will be in the game and your pilots build up exp t 65-75.

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RE: A6M3 vs P-38G - 3/6/2016 1:35:57 PM

obvert

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In this scenario you'e only really interested in two areas of the small map; Guadalcanal and Port Moresby. If Japan holds either location they can have enough VP to win the scenario. If not, they'd have to win a massive naval victory to win. So as Allies if you take Lunga and hold it, without losing PM, you've basically won the scenario. You just have to make sure you continue to be able to resupply and that Japan cannot move more troops in or supply the ones there.

In my recent play H to H I let Japan keep Lunga for a good while to see if the Allies could force their way through with the strength coming later in the scenario. Japan also managed to march over the Owen Stanleys and take PM. This seemed disastrous and yet through a process of fighting even CV battles to whittle Japanese CV strength, while being able to repair the Allied ships more quickly at Sydney, the Allies came back to take both bases and win decisively.

I only point this out because at no time during this game did the Allies bomb Rabaul. Leave it. Make the Japanese use long range strikes and sweeps and slowly run out of good pilots and airframes, as historical. They have no other good air bases and can't build any during this scenario.

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RE: A6M3 vs P-38G - 3/6/2016 8:17:41 PM

Odin

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Well now, i managed to build up Portland roads to a size 7 Airfield...but at this point seems the AI withdraws most of it fighters back so somewhere else..

I guess he can�t supply Rabaul any longer, i sunk a lot of Transport vessels during the past fighting.

P-38 sweeps weren�t good before but the Bombers now can now fly nearly unharmed.

As there were only a few aircraft left on Rabaul, i let my Bombers hit the port,
with several hits on different ships, and they sunk Kirishima in port, with their funny 500lb bombs:-)

Too bad it is nealry over, it was time for CARTWHEEL:-)

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