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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/8/2016 8:57:22 PM   
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I will take other requests as well. Maybe tomorrow I'll post on Dogger Bank.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/8/2016 9:02:44 PM   
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Gorn, do these steps now:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2971725/windows/how-to-reclaim-your-privacy-in-windows-10-piece-by-piece.html
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2975289/windows/how-to-cure-windows-10s-worst-headaches.html

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/8/2016 9:14:54 PM   
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Thanks Zorch.

I did turn almost everything they wanted "on" "off". You know those things that would make your PC faster by sending them various kinds of info which is none of their business.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/8/2016 9:57:39 PM   
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You are welcome.
I don't intend to upgrade anytime in the next 100 years.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/8/2016 10:08:36 PM   
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My professional experience with the press in general is that they are completely
unreliable in all but the most simplistic things. Most people have an area of
expertise, usually their trade or profession and one or two hobbies or side interests.
The rest of our general information we get from the press and other conventional
sources. I noticed early in my career that they were almost completely inept at
providing any kind of accurate technical detail in my knowledge area and the language
and terms used indicated no understanding of anything except in a most general way.
I thought since they cannot get my areas of expertise remotely near the truth this
must happen for every other field as well.
warspite1

Agreed. I have been doing a lot of research into the Battle of Jutland recently. Out of curiosity, part of this has involved reading newspaper articles and I have to say the level of accurate writing is low. In fact that is unfair - its pretty appalling and if, as you say, most people get their general knowledge from sources like the press then its a sorry state of affairs. Frankly I would sooner believe something written by soojan than something written in the newspapers....



To be fair, most journalists have to cover a wide range of subjects. Certain areas, particularly finance, law, and M&A, enjoy coverage by specialists with related degrees and experience. However, you won't find their articles in the Des Moines Spectator or Eugene Press Telegram (I made those names up). Look instead in the Wall Street Journal or business pages of the NY Times (Andrew Ross Sorkin currently writes a regular M&A "column" for the NY Times - subscribe to Dealbook for daily email headlines - when he isn't creating TV shows like "Billions" for cable).

Most readers on this forum are interested in military subjects - this area definitely lacks knowledgeable reporters. In the two decades after WWII, there were many reporters well-versed in military matters, primarily because they served during the war. People like Robert Leckie, who had been a local newspaper reporter before the war, would have never considered serving in the military but for Pearl Harbor. After the war, they returned to journalism with a knowledge of the military that they lacked before the war.

With the end of the draft in the early 70s, the US military reverted back to recruiting only those who had a pre-existing interest in serving, few of whom had a journalism bent. As a result, you have to search far and wide today to find a journalist with first-hand knowledge of military matters.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/9/2016 12:15:38 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

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My professional experience with the press in general is that they are completely
unreliable in all but the most simplistic things. Most people have an area of
expertise, usually their trade or profession and one or two hobbies or side interests.
The rest of our general information we get from the press and other conventional
sources. I noticed early in my career that they were almost completely inept at
providing any kind of accurate technical detail in my knowledge area and the language
and terms used indicated no understanding of anything except in a most general way.
I thought since they cannot get my areas of expertise remotely near the truth this
must happen for every other field as well.
warspite1

Agreed. I have been doing a lot of research into the Battle of Jutland recently. Out of curiosity, part of this has involved reading newspaper articles and I have to say the level of accurate writing is low. In fact that is unfair - its pretty appalling and if, as you say, most people get their general knowledge from sources like the press then its a sorry state of affairs. Frankly I would sooner believe something written by soojan than something written in the newspapers....



To be fair, most journalists have to cover a wide range of subjects. Certain areas, particularly finance, law, and M&A, enjoy coverage by specialists with related degrees and experience. However, you won't find their articles in the Des Moines Spectator or Eugene Press Telegram (I made those names up). Look instead in the Wall Street Journal or business pages of the NY Times (Andrew Ross Sorkin currently writes a regular M&A "column" for the NY Times - subscribe to Dealbook for daily email headlines - when he isn't creating TV shows like "Billions" for cable).

Most readers on this forum are interested in military subjects - this area definitely lacks knowledgeable reporters. In the two decades after WWII, there were many reporters well-versed in military matters, primarily because they served during the war. People like Robert Leckie, who had been a local newspaper reporter before the war, would have never considered serving in the military but for Pearl Harbor. After the war, they returned to journalism with a knowledge of the military that they lacked before the war.

With the end of the draft in the early 70s, the US military reverted back to recruiting only those who had a pre-existing interest in serving, few of whom had a journalism bent. As a result, you have to search far and wide today to find a journalist with first-hand knowledge of military matters.

In the "old days" up to about the end of WWII the reporters were at the mercy of the military establishment who put up a wall of secrecy and only allowed certain filtered information to come out, often admitting to something only after a leak had exposed it.

Nowadays the military have massive PR 'spin' departments to shape the military's image. Any reporter not playing nice is likely to be left off the guest list for numerous demonstrations, briefings and combat zone billets.

Someone said "the first casualty of war is truth", but that holds true for military war preparation as well.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/9/2016 6:21:22 PM   
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Here's the dog I trained to fetch me my calamari (not really).





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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/9/2016 7:46:01 PM   
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Are other navies having this problem? Should we wargame bombing the sea in front of Chinese or Russian ships with cayenne peppers?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/09/europe/britain-royal-navy-warships/?iid=ob_article_organicsidebar_expansion

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/13/2016 5:27:30 PM   
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I've been trying to see what I can do with my little camera. Here is a short clip of Mars. Lots of noise. There are several things I can do to try to clean it up. I took video because trying to take a pic involves jostling the camera, which is no good. I don't believe a cable trigger is made for it, but I can time the pic so it's hands off, as long as I get the target in the frame. I'll do that after I get a better result than this.





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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/13/2016 5:29:26 PM   
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I attempted to do Saturn as well, but it is so faint and you can't make out the rings. I'll try again once I improve the Mars shot as much as I can.





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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/14/2016 12:26:13 AM   
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Pretty cool for a gorn.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/14/2016 2:58:50 AM   
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Isn't this the Romulan death weapon from Balance of Terror?

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/14/2016 9:19:33 AM   
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Isn't this the Romulan death weapon from Balance of Terror?

I was thinking the Gorn version of a Plague bacterium!

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/14/2016 8:52:12 PM   
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I've been reading a book by Barbara Tuchman about Joe Stilwell. I thought the following passage was hilarious. It refers to a Chinese general and provincial Governor.

"Lung Yun's resources for raising money were infinite. In one case he ordered that all two-wheeled carts, the common vehicle of the area, must be equipped with rubber tires. He then opened his warehouses to sell the tires he had confiscated during the days of traffic on the Burma Road. After that he passed a new law taxing all carts with rubber tires."

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/14/2016 9:30:02 PM   
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Here's one of those "What's this" thingies. What is this? '60s surely. Found it in Google maps.






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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/14/2016 9:41:35 PM   
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Ford Fairlane ??

Or Mercury equivalent back in the day when Ford had '2 badges' for every car ?

Cant make out the lettering.

http://www.oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Ford/1963_Ford/1963_Ford_Fairlane-Dutch_Brochure/1963%20Ford%20Fairlane%20%20Dutch%20-06%20amp%2007.html


Maybe a 1968 Chrysler 300 - they looked a lot alike but the Chrysler appealed to guys "who cannot deny they like big booties"

http://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/1967-300s.jpg


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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/14/2016 10:28:42 PM   
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The lettering IDs it as a Dodge Polara, but I don't ever remember seeing one that looked like that. My first thought was an AMC Rambler...

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/15/2016 3:43:34 PM   
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Here's one of those "What's this" thingies. What is this? '60s surely. Found it in Google maps.







Dodge Polara - I'd guess a 1968 from the little round side lights on the rear fender. Pretty sure 1968 was the first year those were required, and Chrysler used that style

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/15/2016 4:46:01 PM   
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The lettering IDs it as a Dodge Polara, but I don't ever remember seeing one that looked like that. My first thought was an AMC Rambler...


My family had a couple of Ramblers (at different times), I would have recognized it. Looks longer to me. If this is a '68, I'm only 9 years older than it.

And I have the rust to prove it.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/15/2016 5:04:35 PM   
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The lettering IDs it as a Dodge Polara, but I don't ever remember seeing one that looked like that. My first thought was an AMC Rambler...


My family had a couple of Ramblers (at different times), I would have recognized it. Looks longer to me. If this is a '68, I'm only 9 years older than it.

And I have the rust to prove it.


It's definitely a '68 Polara. My grandfather was a Chrysler mechanic for a long time and always drove a Dodge. Here's a Google link to images of 68 Polaras

https://www.google.com/search?q=dodge+polara+1968&biw=1280&bih=633&site=webhp&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiH0Zqro6rNAhVJDlIKHfzNDyIQ_AUIBigB&dpr=1.5#imgrc=_

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/15/2016 5:11:16 PM   
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The lettering IDs it as a Dodge Polara, but I don't ever remember seeing one that looked like that. My first thought was an AMC Rambler...


My family had a couple of Ramblers (at different times), I would have recognized it. Looks longer to me. If this is a '68, I'm only 9 years older than it.

And I have the rust to prove it.


It's definitely a '68 Polara. My grandfather was a Chrysler mechanic for a long time and always drove a Dodge. Here's a Google link to images of 68 Polaras

https://www.google.com/search?q=dodge+polara+1968&biw=1280&bih=633&site=webhp&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiH0Zqro6rNAhVJDlIKHfzNDyIQ_AUIBigB&dpr=1.5#imgrc=_

Oooh, convertibles. Sex bait.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/15/2016 8:04:21 PM   
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Dodge Polara - I'd guess a 1968 from the little round side lights on the rear fender. Pretty sure 1968 was the first year those were required, and Chrysler used that style


Curious - no criticism ..

What was the difference between a Polara and a 300 ?

Similar to Ford/Mercury - Chev/Olds/Pontiac/Buick? i.e. body panels and 2 hp ?

IIRC Canadians seemed to prefer the Chrysler name badge over Dodge.. it was fairly consistent right through to the 80's when Chrysler Corp had their first financial melt down and the Dodge name seemed to come out on top.

My own family was split.. My Dad's side were Ford / Mercury Men... my Mom's side aspired to the Chrysler Imperial !

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/15/2016 8:13:57 PM   
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The 300 was a Chrysler brand - Polara the Dodge brand. I think they were on the same chassis and utilized a lot of the same components. My dad was a Ford / Mercury guy, as I have been mostly. My wife's Jeep Grand Cherokee is a nice ride I will say.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/15/2016 8:14:19 PM   
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Dodge Polara - I'd guess a 1968 from the little round side lights on the rear fender. Pretty sure 1968 was the first year those were required, and Chrysler used that style


Curious - no criticism ..

What was the difference between a Polara and a 300 ?

Similar to Ford/Mercury - Chev/Olds/Pontiac/Buick? i.e. body panels and 2 hp ?

IIRC Canadians seemed to prefer the Chrysler name badge over Dodge.. it was fairly consistent right through to the 80's when Chrysler Corp had their first financial melt down and the Dodge name seemed to come out on top.

My own family was split.. My Dad's side were Ford / Mercury Men... my Mom's side aspired to the Chrysler Imperial !

My understanding is that Chrysler was the lower priced line and Dodge added some chrome and cloth fabric to the same products. The plastic seats they used in those days were murder to sit on in winter - and I was a young buck without hemorrhoids! Dad always put a blanket on the bench seat to make it tolerable.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/15/2016 9:16:36 PM   
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My understanding is that Chrysler was the lower priced line and Dodge added some chrome and cloth fabric to the same products. The plastic seats they used in those days were murder to sit on in winter - and I was a young buck without hemorrhoids! Dad always put a blanket on the bench seat to make it tolerable.


Chrysler was the upscale brand; Dodge was the "working class" brand. The cars shared platforms, but Chrysler had extra-cost features. In the 50s, Chryslers got hemis, while Dodge had to make do with "wedge heads". That changed with the super stock "street" cars in the early 60s - from then on Chrysler focused almost solely on luxury, while Dodge and Plymouth sold performance.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/15/2016 10:01:56 PM   
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I've been trying to see what I can do with my little camera. Here is a short clip of Mars. Lots of noise. There are several things I can do to try to clean it up. I took video because trying to take a pic involves jostling the camera, which is no good. I don't believe a cable trigger is made for it, but I can time the pic so it's hands off, as long as I get the target in the frame. I'll do that after I get a better result than this.







Your greatest nemesis is the atmosphere. The roiling and boiling of the image is all atmospheric effect.

Hot, humid conditions provide the most stable air, with the atmosphere most turbulent on the heels of a cold front as the cold air pushes out the warm air.

Another thing you can do to minimize atmospheric turbulence is minimize the amount of atmosphere you are looking through.

You do this by waiting until the object is as high in the sky as possible. The closer to the zenith the thinner the amount of atmosphere you are looking through.

For practical field observing we almost never bother with an object only 30 degrees above the horizon as the amount of atmosphere you are looking through is horrendous.

We astronomers call that being "down in the soup".

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/16/2016 12:01:58 AM   
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Thanks, Hans. Where do astronomers work in Florida? Mount OKeefenokee? How many days do you have before sea level rise swamps your observatory and do any of your research assistants look like alligators?
They might be relatives of mine, just would like to give a call out.
Oh, and my greatest nemesis is Captain James Tiberius Kirk.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/16/2016 1:14:32 AM   
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Shouldn't you be pondering things pleasing to the eye ?

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/16/2016 1:56:24 AM   
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My understanding is that Chrysler was the lower priced line and Dodge added some chrome and cloth fabric to the same products. The plastic seats they used in those days were murder to sit on in winter - and I was a young buck without hemorrhoids! Dad always put a blanket on the bench seat to make it tolerable.


Chrysler was the upscale brand; Dodge was the "working class" brand. The cars shared platforms, but Chrysler had extra-cost features. In the 50s, Chryslers got hemis, while Dodge had to make do with "wedge heads". That changed with the super stock "street" cars in the early 60s - from then on Chrysler focused almost solely on luxury, while Dodge and Plymouth sold performance.

Ah, right - it was the Plymouth that was slightly cheaper than the Dodge but essentially the same vehicle.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 6/16/2016 1:03:17 PM   
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Adapt

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