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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/5/2020 1:59:10 AM   
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Just before or just after the draft ended. It ended just before I turned 18. I had heard that if you tried joining the Navy to avoid going into the Army exactly that could happen.


I'm sorry , but that was not a nice (or true) thing they told you. The USMC has only once experimented with a draft (in 1968). It was a complete and utter failure and was ended after 6 months. And in 1969 the Marines , except for advisors and embassy guards , were withdrawn from Vietnam.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/5/2020 2:04:01 AM   
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Different era, but my friend Mark had to pass seamanship skills to get his Merchant Marine card that weren't relevant to the actual work he'd be doing on the river. His understanding was he could be ordered off barges and working for the barge company he did and be put on a seagoing ship doing entirely different work. I don't know of that happening during that war to anyone, but he understood it could. He was effectively paramilitary.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/5/2020 3:57:51 AM   
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The picket boat that discovered the Doolittle Raider's task force was a fishing boat. The US had tuna boats where the crews ended up joining the Navy, those are the YPs.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/13/2020 8:12:56 PM   
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Whoever hooked up the power to this house did a fantastic job.




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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/13/2020 9:22:42 PM   
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The story is at https://weather.com/news/news/2020-04-13-severe-weather-blows-an-entire-georgia-house-onto-a-highway-intact

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/13/2020 10:02:06 PM   
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Point taken, but if I am reading this correctly they were still part of the same formation ("a 'chaff' wall" isn't going to work if the chaff deploying ships are too far away, far enough away to be pickets), so the lesser value ships were not sent out on their own.

I don't think Woodward meant actual "chaff" in case of auxiliaries. He meant using these ships as decoys his carriers may hide behind. This is what actually happened soon after, when they lost SS Atlantic Conveyor.

Battle Group came under attack from enemy planes that came in low and launched a couple of ASMs. HMS Ambuscade deployed chaff. Enemy ASMs targeted the decoys and went through the chaff cloud. Going further, the missiles locked on to the next thing they saw - SS Atlantic Conveyor. If it wasn't there, it was likely that the carrier HMS Hermes would've been targeted instead.

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Her [Atlantic Conveyor's] war had lasted exactly thirty days and, even without her final mission accomplished, we still owed her a considerable debt. Not least, I suppose, because she was in a dead line between Hermes and Ambuscade. If the Conveyor had possessed a chaff system and decoyed the missiles, they might have come straight on for the carrier. We may, or may not, have been able to divert them yet again.

So while it is true that these ships weren't simply sent forward without any support (in fact, Conveyor, being the biggest of all, was kept further back than others in previous days), they were used to shield the most valuable ships of the group, carriers, in time when armed escorts were in short numbers.


In game terms (I assume why you brought this up), my interpretation of this RL event is that the combatant ships and the auxiliaries / transports would have been in a single mixed ship type amphibious (or transport) TF and the incoming air strike would have tried to attack members of that TF. In so doing, some auxiliary / transports were preferentially targetted by the air strikes. That happens all the time in the game, doesn't it?

I think it's different than sorting out xAKs or xAKLs and sending them in separate TFs away from the air combat TF (say 1-2 hexes= 40-80nm) in order to soak off an incoming air strike sortie.

IIRC, they launched anti-ship missiles from beyond visual range. They would have had a big cluster of undefined shipping on rada and launched toward the middle of it with the missiles set to go for the largest ship. The Atlantic Conveyor would be between the launch point and the carrier, and was large enough for the missiles to decide to attack it.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/14/2020 6:03:40 PM   
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The story is at https://weather.com/news/news/2020-04-13-severe-weather-blows-an-entire-georgia-house-onto-a-highway-intact


Thank you for sharing.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/14/2020 6:04:11 PM   
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Whoever hooked up the power to this house did a fantastic job.


You said it.

Thank you for sharing.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 12:36:28 AM   
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Orm's been missing our North American birds, so I'll give him today's batch. First we have Cal Ripken. Everybody knows the Baltimore Orioles used to be the St. Louis Browns, don't they?




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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 12:38:09 AM   
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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 12:38:46 AM   
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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 12:39:13 AM   
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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 12:39:40 AM   
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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 12:41:28 AM   
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Here's a male downy woodpecker (and a starling)




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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 12:42:05 AM   
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Here's a Carolina Wren




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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 12:42:57 AM   
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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 12:45:34 AM   
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Finally, a fuzzy pic of Pogo.




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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 12:59:47 AM   
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Finally, a fuzzy pic of Pogo.




Well if you slept for several months you'd likely wake up with pretty messed up hair too!

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 1:06:56 AM   
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Think of the black bears. There last meal is a bunch of pine needles then they don't poop for 6 months. I bet you would be grouchy too until you passed that and had something decent to eat.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 1:54:56 AM   
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Here in owah suthern climbs, the possums have not hibernated all winter.
I see them nightly, mostly.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 6:05:16 AM   
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Here in owah suthern climbs, the possums have not hibernated all winter.
I see them nightly, mostly.

And you haven't hunted them down yet?

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 6:06:55 AM   
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Orm's been missing our North American birds, so I'll give him today's batch.

Thank you for sharing.

Such beauties.

And amazing quality on the photographs.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 6:07:54 AM   
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Everybody knows the Baltimore Orioles used to be the St. Louis Browns, don't they?



No, not a clue. And I still do not know.



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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 4:13:34 PM   
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Here in owah suthern climbs, the possums have not hibernated all winter.
I see them nightly, mostly.

That one seems to have gotten into someone's hidden Meth stash!

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 4:14:07 PM   
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Everybody knows the Baltimore Orioles used to be the St. Louis Browns, don't they?



No, not a clue. And I still do not know.



A baseball team reference.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 5:20:13 PM   
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As a life long Orioles fan who grew up in Baltimore, I appreciate the great photos!

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 4/28/2020 10:12:24 PM   
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I'm sorry, I didn't get Cal Ripken's autograph.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 5/2/2020 3:31:21 PM   
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Everybody knows the Baltimore Orioles used to be the St. Louis Browns, don't they?



No, not a clue. And I still do not know.



A baseball team reference.

Thank you.

I would have guessed on football, the American type.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 5/2/2020 5:24:52 PM   
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Everybody knows the Baltimore Orioles used to be the St. Louis Browns, don't they?



No, not a clue. And I still do not know.



A baseball team reference.

Thank you.

I would have guessed on football, the American type.


For American football, the CLEVELAND browns became the Baltimore Ravens. I guess for some reason Baltimore likes Browns but changes their names . . .

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 5/2/2020 5:38:09 PM   
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Everybody knows the Baltimore Orioles used to be the St. Louis Browns, don't they?



No, not a clue. And I still do not know.



A baseball team reference.

Thank you.

I would have guessed on football, the American type.


For American football, the CLEVELAND browns became the Baltimore Ravens. I guess for some reason Baltimore likes Browns but changes their names . . .

Yeah, what's with all the bird names for their teams?

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