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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 4:17:56 AM   
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Here in St. Louis, we are smack dab on the boundary line between the territories of the Black-Capped Chickadee and the Carolina Chickadee.
I'm going to have to call this one a Black-Capped Chickadee though they are terrifically difficult to distinguish, one from the other.
Looks malnourished. It has discovered an unlimited supply of sunflower seeds so that should be receding into the past.





I saw one here in Arizona last week that looked just like that! Which is it? I didn't even know we had chickadees here.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 4:27:47 AM   
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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 4:32:13 AM   
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I have black capped chickadees, tons of them....I will call that one a Carolina.

Now this is why we call them bird brains. It has a black cap, so naturally it's a Carolina Chickadee.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 4:45:29 AM   
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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 1:10:01 PM   
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Here in St. Louis, we are smack dab on the boundary line between the territories of the Black-Capped Chickadee and the Carolina Chickadee.
I'm going to have to call this one a Black-Capped Chickadee though they are terrifically difficult to distinguish, one from the other.
Looks malnourished. It has discovered an unlimited supply of sunflower seeds so that should be receding into the past.





I saw one here in Arizona last week that looked just like that! Which is it? I didn't even know we had chickadees here.


In Arizona you should see some mountain chickadees from time to time. The black-capped chickadees do range well into Colorado, so you might see them.




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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 1:12:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Chickadees are about the smallest birds I ever see except for hummingbirds. You might confuse house sparrows, they are a bit larger than finches.




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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 1:18:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		The song of the Black-capped Chickadee, as well as the Carolina (they imitate each other to some extent) which some describe as "chicka-dee-dee-dee" sounds more to me like "chicka-buzz-buzz-buzz".

If you want to hear it go here: https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Black-capped_Chickadee/sounds

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 1:18:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		You haven't convinced me it isn't a Carolina...my Black Capped are much more buff around the breast currently. Read that however you want to.




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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 1:22:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Another distinguishing thing about the chickadees is in the case of sunflower seeds in the shell (I use black oil sunflower seeds) they take one from the feeder and fly off with it to, say, a tree branch to break the shell against the branch. Finches and sparrows crack them open with their beaks and eat them at the feeder, and stay to eat some more.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 1:28:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		You could be right, notice the bluish cast to the feet. Anyways, in border areas they do sometimes hybridize, so calling them different species is dubious in the eyes of some.





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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 3:12:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Definitely not the Mountain Chickadee or the House Sparrow. Looked most like the photo of the Carolina Chickadee, but the white area seemed less extensive on the bottom edge. Perhaps the way the bird was sitting.

I'll have to wait until I see it again, maybe get an autograph.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 3:32:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's another comparison. Either way the "chicka-buzz-buzz-buzz" call is what you hear when they approach a feeder, announcing the presence of food.
The song you may hear, away from the feeder is a simple two note song, a long high note followed by a long note about half an octave lower.




Here again, the Carolina has blue tinged feet and legs and the Black-Capped purplish-yellow.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 3:56:03 PM   
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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 4:20:56 PM   
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This thread has gone to the birds...






It looked like that one! It looked like that one!

Face it, man, where else can you get the mix of discussions you get around here?!

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 4:23:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		hmm...impressive range and durability....might have to build some of those!

Over the winter I realized where the expression "pecking order" came from. There was a fresh road-kill moose (sorry Bullwinkle)and perched on top feeding was a large bald eagle. The trees around were covered in our very large and voracious ravens (they get close to 2' tall here)and further back were the magpies, all waiting their turn. Eagles are fairly rare here but the ravens knew their place in the pecking order.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 4:27:55 PM   
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hmm...impressive range and durability....might have to build some of those!

Over the winter I realized where the expression "pecking order" came from. There was a fresh road-kill moose (sorry Bullwinkle)and perched on top feeding was a large bald eagle. The trees around were covered in our very large and voracious ravens (they get close to 2' tall here)and further back were the magpies, all waiting their turn. Eagles are fairly rare here but the ravens knew their place in the pecking order.


Yes, but once in the air, a bald eagle is no match for a raven, it is like a Zero pestering a B-25.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 4:32:43 PM   
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hmm...impressive range and durability....might have to build some of those!

Over the winter I realized where the expression "pecking order" came from. There was a fresh road-kill moose (sorry Bullwinkle)and perched on top feeding was a large bald eagle. The trees around were covered in our very large and voracious ravens (they get close to 2' tall here)and further back were the magpies, all waiting their turn. Eagles are fairly rare here but the ravens knew their place in the pecking order.


Yes, but once in the air, a bald eagle is no match for a raven, it is like a Zero pestering a B-25.


For the most part I agree with you. I have seen, with my own eyes, a baldy in flight roll over and casually shred a raven that was harassing it, then roll back over and continue on. It was a seriously impressive sight. I doubt I will ever see it again, but my son and I were sure cheering madly

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 5:15:27 PM   
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/07/18/army-pilot-receives-medal-honor-vietnam-heroism-49-years-later/87245696/

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 5:38:14 PM   
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In case you missed it:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2016/07/18/army-pilot-receives-medal-honor-vietnam-heroism-49-years-later/87245696/


"Kettles told USA TODAY he's especially proud that the eight men he rescued 49 years are not names on the wall at the Vietnam memorial in Washington. “That’s what matters,” he said."

That is what matters.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 6:22:11 PM   
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You haven't convinced me it isn't a Carolina...my Black Capped are much more buff around the breast currently. Read that however you want to.



Hummm - gymnasium, or implants?

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 6:34:17 PM   
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Brood parasitic.




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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 6:43:32 PM   
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You haven't convinced me it isn't a Carolina...my Black Capped are much more buff around the breast currently. Read that however you want to.



Hummm - gymnasium, or implants?


I was wondering how long it would take for a comment like that...

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 6:49:04 PM   
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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 6:52:37 PM   
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Here is one of my favorite birds from the backyard feeder.

Brood parasitic.






That, by the way, is a male Cowbird. I suppose it should be called a Bullbird. Here's a pic of the female of the species.





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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 6:55:39 PM   
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If I'm not mistaken, they got that name because they ride on the backs of cows (and horses, etc.) watching for insect prey (like horseflies, and hooray for the cowbird for that). If you've ever had a chunk of your hide removed by the bite of a horsefly, you know what I mean. They also prey on the flies attracted to the cow manure and the resulting maggots.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 7:00:48 PM   
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That, by the way, is a male Cowbird. I suppose it should be called a Bullbird. Here's a pic of the female of the species.






She looks to be nagging a little.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/18/2016 7:06:58 PM   
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That, by the way, is a male Cowbird. I suppose it should be called a Bullbird. Here's a pic of the female of the species.






She looks to be nagging a little.


We can do without the misogyny, I think. By the way, I've thought of doing an AAR where I lie my derriere off about what's actually happening. I was going to title it "Britches in Heat".

Remember, Matrix Games would frown on any remarks about pantsuits here. So don't do it.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/19/2016 7:49:02 PM   
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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/20/2016 10:52:27 AM   
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The thought:



-----Original Message-----


I just stumbled into Carmichael Numbers. Had never heard of them before. I remember in school being taught that we might be living in a "saddle-shaped" universe. I couldn't understand how the universe could have a shape, saddle or otherwise, without an outside point of reference. How to construct a wall (limit) between that which is and that which isn't? What would it be made of? I recently heard Tyson say out loud and unequivocally that the universe was infinite and that the "Big Bang" was just a large black hole exploding. I had thought this for a very long time but nobody would say that the Earth wasn't flat. I was thinking, and I'm just talking about the unwashed masses including myself, that we have treated infinity as though it was imaginary. It is inevitable and inescapable. There is nowhere to hide from it. What is imaginary and will always remain so is any idea of finity.

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RE: OT Things to ponder - 7/20/2016 1:58:03 PM   
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Totally OT but I've been having big problems with Google Maps lately.



How can you be Off Topic in an Off Topic thread about things that are Off Topic?

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