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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/1/2017 12:26:40 PM   
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Thanks Peter,

We are debating whether to upgrade to 2.3.6. Would you recommend doing so or waiting for the next version?


It looks to be pretty stable, so I would do so.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/2/2017 7:47:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would say we have to forget Malta attack.

I'm thinking about sending PARA to USSR border and hoping Italy to bring ATR to same hex. Also Italian Stuka would be good in east, Germany lacks air moves.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/2/2017 7:51:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sounds fair to me. I think the window of opportunity has passed us by in the Med. I'll abort the West Med naval combat after this round.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/2/2017 7:52:33 PM   
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/2/2017 7:56:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		At the moment, the Allies can only feed limited amounts into the Med via Tangiers, so there may be an opportunity to engage on good terms but not this impulse with surprise in effect.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/2/2017 8:24:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		You made the right decision. Save your forces. Malta isn't imported anymore. The Axis should acknowledge that they have lost the initiative to the Allies and should look for opportunities to hit the Allies at weak points only. Preserve your forces and build up as many oil reserves as you can. Build out the German and Japanese SYNTH as soon as possible.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/2/2017 8:37:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		In the west, with the entry of the US into the war, the Axis high water mark has been reached and the tide is on the turn. In the east, necessity will drive further expansion into the USSR in an attempt to buy time but the life expectancy of the 1000-year Reich is looking likely to come up slightly short.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/2/2017 9:02:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think the Italians should continue contesting CSV. It's time to focus on making the West Med too dangerous for the Allies to operate in.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/3/2017 5:16:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would like to stay positive, but things are not looking good. Portugal is open to Allies as is entire France. As long as northern Spain stands our troops are tied to stay there..

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/4/2017 12:36:57 PM   
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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/4/2017 1:09:40 PM   
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Im online tonight for rail and land moves

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/4/2017 2:52:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		When the Germans launch their attack against USSR, I think the primary aim should be destroying as many Soviet units as you can, rather than going for land. I don't know how far your ambitions extend but I think I would be looking at getting to Dnieper and Dvina to establish a line along the rivers and perhaps build some forts to bridge the hexes in between.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/4/2017 7:38:31 PM   
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When the Germans launch their attack against USSR, I think the primary aim should be destroying as many Soviet units as you can, rather than going for land. I don't know how far your ambitions extend but I think I would be looking at getting to Dnieper and Dvina to establish a line along the rivers and perhaps build some forts to bridge the hexes in between.


Yes, primary target is to destroy units as much as possible.

I hope I reach those river lines. If turn ends before our next impulse it's not that easy. I think we might have to delay DoW by one impulse, even if weather is fine in M/A first impulse. Axis have at that point only 3 bombers in northern front and nothing in south. Italian Stuka is still on it's way and Germany could send Ju88 from Spain to south.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/9/2017 6:55:04 PM   
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I don't think I'm going for Gibraltar. I'd rather declare Vichy and have all those territories as buffer zones to narrow down the coastline to defend. Haven't decided on whether or not to do a Fall Gelb but after the disaster last time I tried it and you getting a great run with the weather/turn length in Game 1, I'm thinking probably best not.

Can Italy set up the 2 TRANS in Eritrea to evacuate the supply unit and INF to Libya in the first 2 impulses. Then, push east to keep the CW occupied and not sending Wavell to France. Longer term looking to align Iraq and Persia (unless USSR gets it). Will send oil and resources/BP's (depending on production multipliers). Use/build NAV's and Subs in Med to makae it dangerous for RN to operate. Will help out with the longer range FTR's and look to sending PARA down for possible Malta capture.

Germans intend building MAR unit (partly to confuse Allies on Gib intentions but would also be able to assist the Italians in taking Greece (then aligning Yugoslavia once the rest of the conditions are met).

How does that sound?

What will the Japanese be up to?


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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/9/2017 7:03:57 PM   
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I don't think I'm going for Gibraltar. I'd rather declare Vichy and have all those territories as buffer zones to narrow down the coastline to defend. Haven't decided on whether or not to do a Fall Gelb but after the disaster last time I tried it and you getting a great run with the weather/turn length in Game 1, I'm thinking probably best not.

Can Italy set up the 2 TRANS in Eritrea to evacuate the supply unit and INF to Libya in the first 2 impulses. Then, push east to keep the CW occupied and not sending Wavell to France. Longer term looking to align Iraq and Persia (unless USSR gets it). Will send oil and resources/BP's (depending on production multipliers). Use/build NAV's and Subs in Med to makae it dangerous for RN to operate. Will help out with the longer range FTR's and look to sending PARA down for possible Malta capture.

Germans intend building MAR unit (partly to confuse Allies on Gib intentions but would also be able to assist the Italians in taking Greece (then aligning Yugoslavia once the rest of the conditions are met).

How does that sound?

What will the Japanese be up to?



Italy can do as asked, but they send one TRS, return in to base and then send second TRS. If both transporters are in Red Sea I bet CW will declare war on Italy.

Japs will attack hard on land, focusing either Nationslists or Communists first depending on Chinese set up.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/9/2017 7:15:28 PM   
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If they both start in Eritrea, you can get them both out before any DoW.

Axis Impulse 1 move out the supply unit to Tobruk. Allies Impulse 2, they can only DoW Germany. Axis Impulse 3, move out the other unit to Bardia. The risk would be RN CV's in East Med doing a port strike on the TRANS in Allied 4, assuming they'd moved them there in the first place but splitting the TRANS should limit the effectiveness.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/9/2017 7:17:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Didn't realize they can start somewhere else than Italy... Will do that and give pressure on Egypt.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/9/2017 7:38:46 PM   
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Didn't realize they can start somewhere else than Italy... Will do that and give pressure on Egypt.


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That'll be good. Building, then probably sacrificing some CP's and, in the last resort, spending the supply unit will be key to that.

That said, keep a CA and INF Div handy (perhaps a couple more if a corps can be broken down) up until the DoW just in case the Allies slip up and leave Gib with only a gun or 1-point unit defending.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/10/2017 6:10:38 PM   
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Italian transporters must be placed to Italy or Albania in set up.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/10/2017 6:17:09 PM   
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Fair enough, I was certain I'd been able to place them elsewhere.

In that case, I suggest get the supply unit out and start the INF marching!

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/10/2017 6:18:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		In two impulses I can get supply unit to Libya. First impulse TRS sails to Red Sea and second impulse it returns to Libyan port in Egyptian border.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/10/2017 6:21:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		If France puts light defense on Italian border Italians are more than ready to attack.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/10/2017 6:28:35 PM   
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If France puts light defense on Italian border Italians are more than ready to attack.


Game 3

Sounds good.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/10/2017 8:29:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Gentlemen: thinks are getting pretty confusing here. What game is this? Are there now two games being discussed in this topic? It's not clear at all to me what is what anymore....

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/10/2017 8:31:24 PM   
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Gentlemen: thinks are getting pretty confusing here. What game is this? Are there now two games being discussed in this topic? It's not clear at all to me what is what anymore....


I agree. I'm confused too. This thread was supposed to be for both games where we play Axis.

What do you guys think, should we make more closed threads or how not to confuse everyone?

Edit: And we are supposed to tell which game we are talking about (Game 1 or Game 3).

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/10/2017 9:03:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, I have been amiss in not labelling each post Game 1 or Game 3 but had hoped, since the replies were promptly following the labelled post, it wouldn't cause confusion. I've gone back to the posts to add the labelling.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/11/2017 7:17:56 AM   
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I don't think we have enough units to attack Greece at the moment. What do you say? I rather take MAR to USSR front so that if M/A starts with bad weather I send AMPH to Baltic Sea with MAR.

Germany takes land

Can Italian Sparviero initiate combat in BoB?

Also can Italy send NAV to East Med box 4? You might cause some damage to their CA's.

One rail move: MAR from Gibraltar to Gdynia in Poland.

I do some land moves and also rebase mission.

I can also play tonight if you give instructions.


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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/11/2017 9:06:05 AM   
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I think Allies are reasonably set up to intervene in Greece if we did invade. Unless we either take it in one impulse on the last one of the turn or capture all the ports, we'll simply give the Allies an opening into Europe.

Sounds good re MAR.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/11/2017 10:32:08 AM   
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Looking at the Allies, they aren't as well set as I thought as their TRANS are scattered at the moment. Not a big deal for them as even if we did allocate forces to an invasion, they are all out of position. If we bring the MAR and PARA/ATR over and put at least a unit in Albania, they'll see what's afoot and could easily prepare accordingly.

The downside of this is not being able to align Yugoslavia unless the Allies invade Greece once we are at war with USSR and have aligned Rumania. I suspect that's unlikely but we need to decide what to do about Yugoslavia. If we don't capture it, we'll need to keep units along the borders once it starts looking like the Allies are in a position to invade one of the adjacent countries and get 4 corps ashore.

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RE: Warspite1 Keep Out! - 3/11/2017 12:54:41 PM   
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Italy need to make sure they don't get 4 corps to Albania. Problem is what happens when they invade Sicily.

There is not much we can do during this summer. Next summer we can start by attacking Greece from Bulgaria. We can attack by INF, PARA and divisions from sea.

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