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TOP SECRET ORMSTER + WARSPITE ONLY - 4/9/2016 9:07:45 AM

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This AAR will hopefully be underway shortly - as soon as a grown up i.e. My Lord Ormster of Stockholm - has shown me how to load the patch we will be using.

The two sides will not be looking at the others AAR and we would ask that no comments on strategy or advice be given.

From my side, playing the USSR, France and the Chinese Communists, I will be approaching the Soviet side very much with the intention of looking after the Soviets and not looking to help the western powers unless I have to. I will of course expect maximum assistance from the West in return. Whether that works in practice I don't know, but we'll see how that develops.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/10/2016 1:12:42 PM

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The optionals in play. This will be a bit of a learning curve for me as some are new - and I feel naked without me light cruisers!

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/10/2016 1:18:23 PM

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Uncle Joe has agreed with the Emperor of Japan that we will have a peace pact in place in line with 9.5 of the rules manual. Obviously we have no chits in play as this has not been coded and so the garrison ratio will be sans chits.

This pact gives me the ability to set up for an attack on Persia and hopefully leave time to reinforce the Far East thereafter.

I forgot to place the Siberians as I e-mailed the turn back without ending the Soviet turn..... School boy error Ho hum.....

An attack on Persia is in the offing....

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/10/2016 1:20:02 PM

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The bulk of the remainder of the Soviet forces are ready to re-claim Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina.....and maybe Romania itself?.....

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/10/2016 1:26:13 PM

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I scrapped very little with the Soviets. Just one silly biplane and a rubbish transport.

There's no place in the Soviet airforce for silly aircraft...

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/10/2016 1:31:11 PM

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I always tend to scrap that 3-5 MOT since I think it is to weak for a 4 BP cost unit. And it costs oil. But I am not all that fond of motorized units for any nation since they bring little benefit and huge oil costs.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/10/2016 1:42:12 PM

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I always tend to scrap that 3-5 MOT since I think it is to weak for a 4 BP cost unit. And it costs oil. But I am not all that fond of motorized units for any nation since they bring little benefit and huge oil costs.

warspite1

A typically shabby western trick to get me to scrap my best units

If the British tell me to scrap the unit I KNOW that keeping it must have been a good idea. You don't fool me and you have to get up pretty early in the morning to get one over on Uncle Joe.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/10/2016 1:51:50 PM

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quote:

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I always tend to scrap that 3-5 MOT since I think it is to weak for a 4 BP cost unit. And it costs oil. But I am not all that fond of motorized units for any nation since they bring little benefit and huge oil costs.

warspite1

A typically shabby western trick to get me to scrap my best units

If the British tell me to scrap the unit I KNOW that keeping it must have been a good idea. You don't fool me and you have to get up pretty early in the morning to get one over on Uncle Joe.

We only want what is best for us all. Please do remember that Germany is the aggressor. We should all sign a trade embargo against Germany!

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/10/2016 1:53:22 PM

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I tend to be a heavy scrapper. At least in regards of transports. I certainly cleaned house with the US transportation fleet.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/10/2016 5:45:31 PM

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Interesting. I think the US needs almost every transport it has. I would scrap the 3-2 TRS, although I have seen some players advocate keeping it, but the 3-3s are actually needed. For me, the US tends to build out its transport pool completely.

I agree that the 3 point Russian MECH is very, very scrapable.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/10/2016 9:58:23 PM

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Italy place lots of forces in Western Libya. And additional forces seems ready to be transported. To Libya?

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/10/2016 9:59:14 PM

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The Chinese setup.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/10/2016 10:00:19 PM

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CW scraps a lot as well. Several TRS go to the scrap yard.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/11/2016 7:13:39 AM

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As Orm alluded to above, the Italian set up is "interesting". The French border is lightly guarded and there are plenty of heavy units at La Spezia to be carried.... somewhere. If Mussolini gets fresh he can hopefully expect a less than easy ride (although the Germans could of course soon be heading south to assist).

I guard the Italian border heavily. This leaves the north very light but...

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/11/2016 7:15:21 AM

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In the north I am going to have to rely upon the appearance of the reserves to bolster my forces here. A hand picked squadron wait ready for possible deployment in the Baltic.

Some say its gamey but....

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/11/2016 7:21:07 AM

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The units picked could have been better. No Algerian TERR and the regular unit in Syria is only a 3-quality.

I split the remainder of the fleet into a squadron in Syria (to escort the transport), a fast squadron in Algiers and the two remaining battleships in the south of France.

Scrapping is nothing to write home about. But here it is anyway.

French scrapping plans - not good subject matter for a book...

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/11/2016 6:38:15 PM

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I wouldn't have scrapped the CW TRS. I also would have kept the French ones around, since Free French TRS are very nice to use by the Allies. I like to have at least three French TRS/AMPH on the board when 1943 comes around. Now, that becomes a bit difficult when the force pool is halved...

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/11/2016 11:14:37 PM

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The Polish forces are in place.

Now I feel like a fool.

Just awaiting the unavoidable fate...

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/12/2016 4:29:09 AM

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I feel that the Chinese made a major mistake in letting Chengchow go without a fight. This gives the Japanese the opportunity to blast the Communists off the map. The time it takes to destroy Chengchow is what gives the Communists time to hold. A good GAR and Chungking MIL only costs four points to rebuild, and is really worth it to slow the Japanese down.

We will get to see if the Japanese take advantage of this.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/14/2016 5:34:24 PM

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After that opening there is much to think about - both in China and Europe.

China

Currently debating whether a 3:1 attack on the two ART is sensible....

France

Well its pretty obvious what is coming - but what to do? Mixed thoughts in London and Paris at present. France prefers a naval strategy and London is looking at a land impulse for the French.....

CW

A Combined is being mulled over to reorganise the Poles

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/14/2016 6:45:14 PM

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Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 2

The US Entry for the CW is a 5 and the entry level falls from 17 to 15.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/15/2016 5:45:10 PM

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Sep/Oct 1939
Impulse: 2

Right then, after the first round of naval combat - and the surprise throws for round 2 - the Allies are in the stickiest situation since sticky the stick insect got stuck on a sticky bun.

Oh well..... here we go into battle........

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/15/2016 7:43:59 PM

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...well I think we got away with one there - I had visions of the Queens and Gort at the bottom of the sea. Mind you, we were unlucky with Blucher and failed to get at the German Convoys in the Baltic so perhaps we were owed one.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/15/2016 9:56:59 PM

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But if we did get away with one, that was not the case in China. The Japanese leaving two artillery together like that was a big mistake, but sadly for the Allies - and the Communists in particular - the Japanese have gotten away with it.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/15/2016 10:15:23 PM

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Yea. We were bad Generals doing that attack. Huge mistake.

But if the die had rolled a 9 instead of a two then you would have been a genius and I would be admired just by standing close.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/15/2016 10:25:39 PM

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Yea. We were bad Generals doing that attack. Huge mistake.

But if the die had rolled a 9 instead of a two then you would have been a genius and I would be admired just by standing close.

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Indeedily - same as it ever was

I think everything has to be geared to as early a US entry as possible now or this could be a very quick victory for the forces of evil....

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/15/2016 10:37:37 PM

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I'd buck up a little. The ChiComms are in a bad spot but the Japanese could have been in an even better spot. They will waste their first good weather roll simply getting to positions they could already hold with a better set-up designed to exploit their win vs. Mao.

The Allied up-side to a German attack in the West in 1939 is indeed accelerated US Entry - good chits can combine with bad weather to leave the feldgrau guys back to historical start lines with a now not-sleepy Uncle Sam.

There are several more critical die rolls to go in this high-risk German strategy, and it could yet rain in China too.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/16/2016 6:35:05 AM

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Thank you, brian, for the encouragement.

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/16/2016 11:07:36 AM

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The France only declaration that you suspect is indeed likely. If this is so, given what we know now about surprise, having the French subs at sea is not ideal.

May be the French will need to do a combined to get one of them out of the Western Med or Italian Coast?

When would you advise a Persian attack? It would be good to get it out of the way early, although US entry is crucial of course.

I will need one Soviet move for Eastern Poland, but I guess that does have to be next impulse. The Communists will only need a maximum of two moves!

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RE: 4 player E-mail: Allied Only AAR - 4/16/2016 10:13:06 PM

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I think the French should do a combined and try and destroy the Italian division in Algeria.

For that I will need the CW to put to sea in the Western Med and use a convoy point to put the French Corps in supply. The Force du Raide will also put to sea.

With some luck (and we are due some on the naval interception front given the last impulse) we could get a 5:1 attack.

In France itself I rail a unit to Bilotte from the south and reorganise two Infantry using both HQ. This of course is far from ideal but even a land with the French is not going to alter the position much. Besides, we have to try and hurt the Italians for their impudence.

With the Soviet Union I think we should try and get Persia out of the way by starting this this impulse. Big question is whether I seek Eastern Poland - or we take advantage of the failed attack on Lodz and keep Smigly-Rydz in play?

I am assuming you will do a naval with the CW? We could land the British Army in Holland but this seems a waste and every impulse we have to be in a position to try and end the turn and of course, in the words of The Cure, say Prayers for Rain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtQOlErK2bI

What a stonkingly good toon.

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