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ORIGINAL: Ranger33

I've played a few hours now as well, it's a lot of fun and much easier to play than HoI 3. I would recommend all of the grizzled grognard types to steer clear. The game is way too streamlined and user friendly for you

Only complaint so far would be that the AI can certainly do some very silly things with troop movements and I really don't like how military access works currently.

I'm playing my first game as Romania. I went fascist and then attacked Bulgaria (I mean, why not?) to get some extra factories and such. Then I lined up against Hungary. I really should have lost that war since my army got all but pocketed and then Hungary slipped a dozen divisions into Romania proper. Instead of going for my undefended capital they were happy to loiter in the north for several months, giving me time to reach somewhat undefended Budapest, forcing them to capitulate.

A later oddity was when Germany attacked Poland. The Soviets did not attack Poland and the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was still on. They instead attacked Estonia, who was allied with Poland, which for some reason caused 50 German divisions to travel around Poland and into the SU, then they reversed course and then 50 SU divisions cruised into Germany. Then Germany won against Poland, then the next day declared war on SU, leaving dozens of SU divisions hundreds of miles from supply. So, yeah, some work to be done there. Or AI Hitler is just a very sneaky trickster.

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ORIGINAL: vaalen

I would recommend that you read the MANY very negative reviews on Steam before you spend anything on this.

I am definitely not going to buy it, even on sale.

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ORIGINAL: vaalen

I would recommend that you read the MANY very negative reviews on Steam before you spend anything on this.

I am definitely not going to buy it, even on sale.

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ORIGINAL: vaalen



If you read the very first positive review that appears on steam when you look at the store page, the writer is having a great time, using Mongolia to conquer Japan. Other positive reviewers enjoy similar nonsense where Italy conquers half of Europe early in the game. Another positive reviewer said that the AI can now make naval invasions, so what else do you need?

A negative reviewer saw China take Tokyo with an amphibious assault in 1940, and stated there is no way to stop a naval invasion.

A negative reviewer stated that the AI is one hundred percent brain dead, which is perhaps the reason that Mongolia was able to conquer Japan, to the delight of the first positive reviewer.

A common theme in the negative reviews is that the game is not at all historical, even in the historical mode, that it feels like a shell in many areas, and is stripped of many features previous games had, to make it easy to play. And there is no manual.

I have only read the first twenty or so reviews to appear on the store page, as no one has time to read all of the over one thousand reviews. So these comments are based on those twenty, as I felt no need to read more.

Now, if you want an easy game that allows you to dominate the world as a minor nation, such as Mongolia, this is the game for you. Many people enjoy that experience.

I want games to give a feel for history, and to be challenging. I greatly enjoyed HOI 2.
But HOI 4 is not the game for me.

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ORIGINAL: Ranger33

Good thing is there will be mods to make the game more realistic. Paradox took steps to make this their most moddable game ever. There's even a tool to add 3D models and such into the game easily. Yes, the AI can be dumb, but that's true for plenty of other games. I'm sure it will get better.

In my Romania campaign I've joined the Axis and we took Moscow in late '41 so that's at least a plausible outcome right? The fact that it's encirclement was spearheaded by my elite Romanian infantry probably less so

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ORIGINAL: bairdlander

HOI 3 was the same at release...everyone knows this so there is no point in slamming this game

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ORIGINAL: aaatoysandmore

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ORIGINAL: bairdlander

HOI 3 was the same at release...everyone knows this so there is no point in slamming this game

No, there are always new players that turn 12 and 13 every year so they need to know.