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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/27/2016 3:54:25 AM

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Turn 8. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #4. Actions.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/27/2016 3:58:08 AM

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Turn 8. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #4. Port Strike. Tirana.

In an effort to avenge their fallen allies that so valiantly held on to and fought for Paris to their last bullet, the CW hatches a brilliant plan to port strike and target the two Italian transports docked in Tirana and La Speiza.

The first strike is a bust.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/27/2016 4:00:09 AM

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Turn 8. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #4. Port Strike. La Spezia.

The second strike doesn't go much better. It only manages to disorganize the Italian transport.

Like all "brilliant" military plans, if the execution is not their they don't work.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/27/2016 4:02:09 AM

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Turn 8. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #4. RAF Strategic Bombing. Lille, France.

The RAF decides to see if they can do better and carry out a strategic bombing raid against German run factories in Lille, France. One wonders if the aircrews forgot to load bombs?

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/27/2016 4:07:08 AM

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Turn 8. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #4. RN Ground Strike.

In a final attempt to redeem the reputation of British pilots and aircrews, RN swordfish launched from the aircraft carrier Ark Royal operating in the Bay of Biscay ground strike Italian command and control (i.e., Graziani's HQ unit). Reputation NOT redeemed!

At this point one has to wonder, well at least I wonder, if RAF aircrews are suffering a morale problem due to the fall of Paris?

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/27/2016 4:08:09 AM

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Your air crews can't tell bombs from pamphlets either.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/27/2016 4:10:17 AM

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Turn 8. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #4. France. Land Combat 1 & 2.

In a desperate attempt to do something, anything the pitiful remnants of the French army launch two desperate counterattacks against the Germans. Both attacks fail miserably.

Pat, I selected Blitz for both attacks (Germany had the option for both) assuming that you would want to choose the table that minimize the chance of German losses. In the end, I don't think it mattered.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/27/2016 4:10:50 AM

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Turn 8. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #4. France.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/27/2016 4:12:46 AM

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Turn 8. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #4. RN. West Med. No Combat.

By the way I forgot to add that the RN choose NOT to attempt to initiate combat in the West Med. Because the allies neither moved additional units into the sea area or moved units down in boxes within the sea area, the axis didn't have the opportunity to try.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/27/2016 4:13:23 AM

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Turn 8. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #4. East Med. Libya. Egypt.

Post movement, no air or land combat.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/27/2016 4:14:05 AM

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Turn 8. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #4. China.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/27/2016 4:18:44 AM

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Turn 8. Nov/Dec 1940. Axis #5. Weather.

UNBELIEVABLE!!! That's three weather rolls in a row of 1. That's a 1 in 1000 occurrence.

I keep hearing Annie sing, "The sun'll come out Tomorrow. Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow there'll be sun!"

Annie, for goodness sake, PLEASE STOP SINGING!

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/27/2016 4:20:39 AM

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Your air crews can't tell bombs from pamphlets either.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/27/2016 4:26:25 AM

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By the way,

I'm getting a beer

going to watch a movie with my son

and then go to bed.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/27/2016 4:55:02 PM

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Interesting... I wonder if Pat is going to do what I would have done now in his position...

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/27/2016 7:27:50 PM

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Interesting... I wonder if Pat is going to do what I would have done now in his position...

Surrender?

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/28/2016 12:01:07 AM

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ND40 i5: Actions: GE, JP land; IT combination
No naval moves.
No naval air moves.
Italians initiated in the W. Med. CW air situation similar to last turn, so I implemented last turns instructions (i.e. nothing new to fly out).
Searches were 8/2. CW can choose to avoid or fight.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/28/2016 12:23:25 AM

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Really makes no sense for the CW to fight, so I'll avoid to keep my turn going before I disappear for the evening.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/28/2016 12:31:20 AM

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ND40 i5: Ground Strikes

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/28/2016 12:52:14 AM

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Really makes no sense for the CW to fight, so I'll avoid to keep my turn going before I disappear for the evening.

Thanks.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/28/2016 1:16:02 AM

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ND40 i5: Attacks.
Been debating all day (all week actually, what to do next. I think I've made up my mind)
Three attacks: Vichy, Rouen, and Yenen. All went well from the axis point of view.
In the occupation of Rouen, the fighter was overrun and destroyed. The Bertagne and the submarine were rebased to Casablanca (I could have choosen Le Havre, but that did not seem like a safe choice).

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/28/2016 1:33:04 AM

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ND40 i5: China situation. Looking worse for the Chinese sooner than I had expected due to the clear crisp ND weather.

On weather. I, as the axis, have now an equal number fine impulses in ND40 has I had in all previous impulses (excluding JA40).
[2 in SO39 - 1 a given, 1 in SO40. There were also 4 for the axis in JA40]. Now, this weather did lead to some nice impulses in the N. Monsoon, that the Japanese were able to take advantage of during the winter of 39-40.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/28/2016 1:44:18 AM

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ND40 i5: Europe Situation.

Internal leaks on high level operational discussions. The debates have been tremendous in Berlin on where to go next. Original plan was a Fall Gelb, followed by a close the Med via Spain and Gibraltar (something I've never tried before). The weather and the poor attacks combined threw that into chaos. In reviewing the situation, the continued build up of the Russians on the border (so tempting to catch them there) and the German losses (both air and land) are making a breaking of the neutrality pack doubtful before mid '41 and maybe not in '41 at all. I count ~ 40 points of defensive garrison in the area or due to arrive soon (26 in the border zone currently), with 16 points of defensive chits. By early 41, that makes for ~60 points of defensive garrison. The Germans have ~ 14 points of garrison in the area and another 55 in the rest of Europe (including on spiral reinforcements). The offensive chits will help, but cannot make up the difference in early '41. A new plan is being formulated, and ... [final the leak was found before the actual plan was out]

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/28/2016 10:49:29 AM

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Interesting... I wonder if Pat is going to do what I would have done now in his position...

Surrender?

Nope! Conquering France to make sure the French and the CW will not cooperate until Paris is liberated...

Yes, the capture of France is late and that's not good at all. But since you made a mistake by making those two French counterattacks, Germany only gets one US entry roll (not two for getting rid of Vichy France) if it wants to go into Spain, because there will not be a Vichy France now. And that speeds up the Axis timetable some.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/28/2016 6:29:56 PM

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Turn 8. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #8. Actions.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/28/2016 6:32:07 PM

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Turn 8. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #8. RN Naval Move, West Med.

QUESTION: You have one organized air unit in the West Med. Do you wish to use that one unit to attempt to intercept the RN heavy cruiser Erebus that just moved into the sea area?

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/28/2016 8:15:56 PM

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no, but if I have a chance to initiate as the non-phasing player later, I will.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/28/2016 8:27:56 PM

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no, but if I have a chance to initiate as the non-phasing player later, I will.

The RN CA Erebus is just moving through to Cape St. Vincent. The allies are adding no additional air or sea units to the area and are not moving any units with the area. My understanding is that you, as the non-phasing player, shouldn't be given the opportunity to try to initiate a combat. I hope my understanding in correct.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 8/28/2016 8:47:16 PM

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Turn 8. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #6. RN. West Med.

The RN declines the opportunity to try to initiate combat in the West Med. Reassuringly to my understanding and sanity, the axis aren't given the chance to try.