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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/21/2017 1:45:22 AM

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No need to worry about rebasing.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/21/2017 1:51:30 AM

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MJ42 i3
Axis Ground Strike Results
Now, if I can just get enough troops to the beaches of Western France.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/21/2017 1:55:10 AM

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Yes. Instructions, target the bomber. Stay until the bombers is either shot-down, aborted or cleared or the fighter is aborted or shot down. Rebased in the woods behind the Dnieper.

I will run the battle shortly, but the fighter will not make it back over the Dnieper. It's range is 3 and that is too far from the site of the battle.

Never mind.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/21/2017 3:01:07 AM

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Ronnie,

I believe there is a bug, check the Tech Support Area.

I believe you should have the option of flying 1 pt of ground support into an attack on St-Malo, but the CW is never given the option.
Attack is 12:12 for +2, +5 for flipped units and +0.5 for blitz with the ARM-division. I have nothing that can reach the hex and the only support you can provide is the Albacore, all of your shore bombardment has been used getting ashore and the two CA remaining face-up are carrying divisions. If you wish to fly, then we will need to off-line determine and roll the fractional and then modify the actual roll as needed.

I believe the fractional would be 5/6ths of a chance for me to get to +2, otherwise it is +1(2:3 odds). I could roll the fractional on ACTS and it would send you a notice of the roll as well. I could roll it has a 1000 side dice or a 6 sided dice.

Pat

P.S. There are two other attacks on the East Front, but no reaction is possible.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/21/2017 3:31:42 AM

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Ronnie,

I believe there is a bug, check the Tech Support Area.

I believe you should have the option of flying 1 pt of ground support into an attack on St-Malo, but the CW is never given the option.
Attack is 12:12 for +2, +5 for flipped units and +0.5 for blitz with the ARM-division. I have nothing that can reach the hex and the only support you can provide is the Albacore, all of your shore bombardment has been used getting ashore and the two CA remaining face-up are carrying divisions. If you wish to fly, then we will need to off-line determine and roll the fractional and then modify the actual roll as needed.

I believe the fractional would be 5/6ths of a chance for me to get to +2, otherwise it is +1(2:3 odds). I could roll the fractional on ACTS and it would send you a notice of the roll as well. I could roll it has a 1000 side dice or a 6 sided dice.

Pat

P.S. There are two other attacks on the East Front, but no reaction is possible.

OK. If you have the dice I trust you to manually roll them. But go ahead with the defensive ground support and resolve as you feel is correct.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/21/2017 6:02:13 AM

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MJ42 i3 Land attacks. Three attacks, we will start with the St-Malo, where I believe there is a bug that is not letting the CW fly the Albacore for ground support. Ronnie is flying it. Here is my calculations

odds of 12:13 are 5/6 of the way from 12:18 (2:3 = +1) and 12:12 (1:1 = +2), so the modifier is 1 + 5/6 = +1.8333
Then +5 for disorganized defenders
and +0.5 for ARM div in a blitz
Total is +7.333
With an external die roller I rolled a 5 on 6-sided die resulting in a missed fractional
So the total modifier should be +7 on the Blitz. (I set the fractional die roll in the image below to ensure the fractional was missed). Net result was an 18, which retreated the defenders off the beach (destroyed with no retreat path).

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/21/2017 6:06:32 AM

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MJ42 i3: Land attacks on East Front
Axis achieved their goals here as well.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/21/2017 6:17:07 AM

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MJ42 i3 end:
Here are images of two key areas.
Notice the Blitz in the Ukraine has isolated, at least temporarily, several Russian armies and threatens the resources.
The heroic ARM division is under the 5-1 Garrison. They are marching to take out Brest next.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/21/2017 3:35:04 PM

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Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #4. Actions.

The allies have their work cut out for themn to try to right the ship after a very well played impulse by Pat. The US and CW have a "Dieppe" on their hands at the beaches of Brest and St-Malo. The latter of which have just seen all allied forces their overrun and pushed back into the sea. In the Pacific, the Japanese continue to expand their sphere of control and now have put the US bases at Rabaul and Port Vila out of supply. And, let's not forgot the Eastern Front, the axis in southern Russia have put an entire Soviet Front out of supply and at risk of encirclement.

I must admit that I am up against a superior opponent and who's kicking my proverbial rear end. Pat is meticulous, relentless and an outstanding strategist. And you know what, I'm having a blast! Though this is a game I feel that I'm "interacting" with history. The situation that I encounter now in this game, I feel must be similar to how the allied leaders "felt" in the dark days of late 1941 and early 1942 in WW2. Well, with the very real and critical exception that my casualties are virtual counters removed from the map versus flesh and blood. A most comforting exception I must say.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/21/2017 4:09:20 PM

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Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #4. IJN Intercept?

The USN moves the (out of supply) BB Wyoming and transport based at Rabul into the Coral Sea.

Do the Japanese wish to attempt to intercept?

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/21/2017 4:17:58 PM

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Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #4. Eastern Med, Axis Intercept?

Do the axis wish to attempt to intercept the two RN heavy cruisers moving into the Eastern Med from Malta? If so, which unit do you wish to use for the attempt?

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/21/2017 4:37:24 PM

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Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #4. IJN Intercept?

The RN moves a transport loaded with a fighter into the Arabian Sea.

Do the Japanese wish to attempt intercept? If so, which unit do they use for the attempt?

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/22/2017 1:05:53 AM

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quote:

The USN moves the (out of supply) BB Wyoming and transport based at Rabul into the Coral Sea.

Do the Japanese wish to attempt to intercept?

Yes. Target is the transport primarily. Sub will dive deep and not be committed to the battle.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/22/2017 1:10:12 AM

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Do the axis wish to attempt to intercept the two RN heavy cruisers moving into the Eastern Med from Malta? If so, which unit do you wish to use for the attempt?

Yes, use the Condor.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/22/2017 1:11:18 AM

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Do the Japanese wish to attempt intercept? If so, which unit do they use for the attempt?

Yes, the only one available is the CA.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/22/2017 1:42:56 AM

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Turn 17. Allied #4. IJN Intercept Attempt. Arabian Sea.

This attempt fails and the loaded transport continues on to the 0-box of the Red Sea.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/22/2017 1:43:58 AM

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Turn 17. Allied #4. German NAV Intercept Attempt. East Med.

The attempt fails. The two RN heavy cruisers continue on to the 0-box of the Arabian Sea.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/22/2017 1:44:55 AM

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Turn 17. Allied #4. IJN Intercept Attempt. Coral Sea.

The attempt succeeds. The USN transport and battleship stop and go into the 2-box of the Coral Sea.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/22/2017 1:46:06 AM

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Turn 17. Allied #4. USN and RN Contested Sea Areas. The Pacific.

No attempt by the USN or RN to try to initiate a naval combat in any of these four sea areas.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/22/2017 1:46:50 AM

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Turn 17. Allied #4. RN Contested Sea Areas. East Med.

No attempt by the RN to try to initiate a naval combat in the East Med.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/22/2017 1:47:28 AM

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Turn 17. Allied #4. RN Contested Sea Areas. Central Atlantic.

No attempt by the RN to try to initiate a naval combat in the Central Atlantic.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/22/2017 1:48:11 AM

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Turn 17. Allied #4. USN and RN Contested Sea Area. North Sea.

No attempt by either the USN or RN to try to initiate a naval combat in the North Sea.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/22/2017 1:53:29 AM

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Turn 17. Allied #4. Contested Sea Areas Where Axis May Try to Initiate Combat.

In four of the sea areas included in the last three posts the axis, as the non-phasing player, may try to initiate combat. The only one of those sea areas in which they may include additional air units is in the Eastern Med.

1. Which of these areas do the axis wish to attempt to initiate combat?

2. Which unit(s) would they like to use for the attempt? (Not necessary for the East Med, Arabian Sea and Coral Sea).

3. Which air units and where would they also like to included? (Only applicable for the East Med.)

Dinner and movie time ... so I'll be out for a while.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/22/2017 1:59:55 AM

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quote:

1. Which of these areas do the axis wish to attempt to initiate combat?

2. Which unit(s) would they like to use for the attempt? (Not necessary for the East Med, Arabian Sea and Coral Sea).

3. Which air units and where would they also like to included? (Only applicable for the East Med.)

1. E. Med, Arabian Sea, Coral Sea. Leave the Central Atlantic alone.

2. In all three, I believe previous interception attempts mean I don't need to assign more units for the attempt.

3. No body else will join the E. Med yet.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/22/2017 4:57:26 AM

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Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #4. East Med. (Non-Phasing) Axis Initiate Combat. Round 1 (a).

Instructions?

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/22/2017 6:53:26 AM

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Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #4. East Med. (Non-Phasing) Axis Initiate Combat. Round 1 (a).

Instructions?

Had to reconsider my first thoughts. In the end, I'll engage only the 0-box in a naval air. I should have 8 surprise points.
Use them to move my A-A columns up 2 and your A-A column down 2.
If my bomber clears, the D will go against the transport.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/22/2017 3:12:23 PM

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Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #4. Naval Air Combat (Round 1). East Med.

RAF fighters manage to drive off the Germany Condors. Both air units (RAF fighter and German Condor) are forced to abort.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/22/2017 3:15:05 PM

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Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #4. Naval Air Combat (Round 2). East Med.

For round 2, I make the assumption that you'd want to add the Italian NAV to the battle. Hope that's correct?

Round two sees both side losing contact with the other and the battle ends.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 1/22/2017 3:45:54 PM

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Turn 17. May/June 1942. Allied #4. Limited Overseas Supply (Optional Rule).

On a personal note, this is the first game that I've played using the optional rule, "Limited Overseas Supply" and I absolutely love it! When negotiating the optional rules for this game with Pat I was a bit apprehensive about using this rule, especially as the less experienced and allied player. But after playing with it for a while I'll never play another game without it. This rule adds an additional level of realism that emerges me even deeper into the interactive history experience that MWiF provides.

Though the circumstances and route was different, in trying to keep supply to Malta (and Wavell's army in North Africa), Pat and I have been fighting our alternate version of "Operation Pedestal". I managed to put both in supply at the end of the turn, which allowed me to reorganize the significant fleet of 5 heavy cruisers and three sub units based there. Then, during Pat's last impulse, he manage to sink the lone CW CP providing supply to all these forces. And, we just fought a desperate battle over another convoy centered around Dutch transports and covered by a handful of RAF fighters from South Africa.