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RE: Olympics - 8/22/2016 5:26:12 PM

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...... time of the Falklands war. Our last imperial gasp.

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Last imperial gasp? Sorry but what does that mean?

Robert, it is good to have you back! You ask the most pertinent and thought provoking questions...I am anxious to hear what altipueri means by that statement also!

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RE: Olympics - 8/22/2016 6:32:56 PM

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Canada's success in Rio comes at a price:

http://olympics.cbc.ca/news/article/canada-success-rio-comes-price.html

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RE: Olympics - 8/22/2016 7:31:02 PM

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Island Fortress: The Last Gasp of Greater Britain

PhD fellow Ezekiel Mercau

The global reach of imperial Britishness was symbolised by Britain�s long involvement in imperial wars, nurturing popular assumptions that were abruptly challenged by the realities of imperial decline. In this context, the Falklands War of 1982 assumes special significance. Not only was the Falklands conflict the last war ever fought by the British single-handedly, it was also the last to be inspired by the notion of a world populated by �Britons abroad� whom it was Britain�s duty to defend. It is significant that the war gave rise to a final burst of imperial patriotism on the part of Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and the tabloid press. It signalled a momentary revival of an older rhetoric, in which (in Thatcher�s words) �the spirit of the South Atlantic� was �the real spirit of Britain�. Thus in many ways, the Falklands War represents the last rallying cry for an expansive Britishness � the last iteration of �Greater Britain�.

It was a bit strange living in Rio at the time (I was 28).

The first I heard something was going on was when the American I was sharing a flat with opened my bedroom door at about 6 in the morning and threw in his size 15 ex-Marine Corps boots, saying "Put these on, and walk south. You are at war."

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RE: Olympics - 8/22/2016 9:18:24 PM

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Island Fortress: The Last Gasp of Greater Britain

PhD fellow Ezekiel Mercau

The global reach of imperial Britishness was symbolised by Britain�s long involvement in imperial wars, nurturing popular assumptions that were abruptly challenged by the realities of imperial decline. In this context, the Falklands War of 1982 assumes special significance. Not only was the Falklands conflict the last war ever fought by the British single-handedly, it was also the last to be inspired by the notion of a world populated by �Britons abroad� whom it was Britain�s duty to defend. It is significant that the war gave rise to a final burst of imperial patriotism on the part of Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and the tabloid press. It signalled a momentary revival of an older rhetoric, in which (in Thatcher�s words) �the spirit of the South Atlantic� was �the real spirit of Britain�. Thus in many ways, the Falklands War represents the last rallying cry for an expansive Britishness � the last iteration of �Greater Britain�.

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Out of curiosity I wouldn't mind reading fully what this guy has to say - but at first glance he appears one of those writers that is incapable of writing in an easy to read manner - thus the reader finds he spends an inordinate amount of time trying to understand what is lost amongst the verbiage before even being in any position to actually conclude whether he agrees or not with the point being made..... I can't help thinking - even from the small section above - that he has over-thought this somewhat.

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RE: Olympics - 8/22/2016 9:25:59 PM

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Island Fortress: The Last Gasp of Greater Britain

PhD fellow Ezekiel Mercau

Verbatim from Ezekiel Mercau...
http://embersofempire.ku.dk/research/islandfortress/

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RE: Olympics - 8/22/2016 11:01:08 PM

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Saudades do Rio.

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RE: Olympics - 8/22/2016 11:16:02 PM

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@redcoat,

I can't get the link to work. But it may not be important because it was not an article from a reputable news service. Actually , it was only about three sentences in total. There was no debate.

As far as UK and GB distinction, no harm intended. It is i, on this side of the ocean just being uninformed. Now! I Vaguely remember, at some time that distinction was made on the boards (here) in some discussion. At the time I formulated the above post, that info was nowhere to found in my memory banks. My poor memory, if a thing is not branded in my memory there is a good chance I'll loose it.

This link works:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-3751966/Team-GB-return-Rio-record-breaking-medal

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RE: Olympics - 8/23/2016 12:27:08 AM

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Here is what some countries pay their athletes if they bring home a gold medal.

Kazakhstan pay their gold medalists $250,000.
Malaysia, guarantee their athletes a solid gold bar worth $600,000. But some countries like

Great Briain� doesn't pay their athletes at all .

Estonia, Pays . A gold medal is worth $138,500, a silver medal will earn an Olympian $96,400 and a bronze totals to $60,000.

Italy pays their Olympians a gold medal is worth $189,800.

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RE: Olympics - 8/23/2016 5:00:50 PM

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An Australian article about the bonuses paid to Olympic athletes

http://www.foxsports.com.au/olympics/what-australian-and-other-countries-pay-to-olympic-medal-winners/news-story/fdc88c3a27729dbbc85fb0b357787cd6

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RE: Olympics - 8/24/2016 5:52:43 PM

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Another interesting article - this time on the French reaction to British success. Some comment is pitiful sour grapes - remember the "British wheels are rounder than everyone else" comment? While other, more measured responses highlight correctly that the British have simply taken a more pragmatic (cut throat?) view.

Anyway it all counts for little. I strongly expect China (relatively) to sweep all before them in 4-years. They are hurting about their Rio performance and there is the small matter of where the next Olympics take place too.......

Whilst other nations will up their game - the French, the Germans, the Australians and maybe some of the Asian sleeping giants, at the sharp end a three way fight between the US, China and Japan will be the result - and it could be UGLY.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37168870

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RE: Olympics - 8/24/2016 10:12:40 PM

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Better to fight over medals than to really fight, which could be a reality in 4 years

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RE: Olympics - 8/26/2016 9:01:46 PM

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The Olympics Reviewed as a Video game!!!

http://kotaku.com/the-olympic-summer-games-the-kotaku-review-1785807922

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RE: Olympics - 8/27/2016 1:55:15 AM

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The Olympics Reviewed as a Video game!!!

http://kotaku.com/the-olympic-summer-games-the-kotaku-review-1785807922

I would be interested in a game on the Olympics, if made. If not only to live out my fantasy, to role play a character of a shot-putter or discuss thrower of which I was just mediocre shot-putter myself in High School.

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