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RE: Airgroups altitude - 9/7/2016 3:14:33 PM   
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Dive bombing in a B 17!!(Good grief!)

http://www.dba-oracle.com/dive_bombing_b_17.htm


Same mission, different interpretation......

From Neil Sheehan's "A Fiery Peace in a Cold War", Page 76 -

In a moment of insane interpretation, Dougherty suddenly said, "Let's dive-bomb the bastards". Although Schriever later admitted he was not the type to have thought of anything so rash and hair-raising, he did not object. "I'll watch the air-speed and altitude," he replied, so that they would not dive too rapidly and tear off a wing.

They could not actually dive-bomb a ship with a B-17, but they did the next best thing to it. To keep the Japanese from hearing the noise of the engines as they descended and keep an element of surprise, they cut back the throttles. Then Dougherty pushed the wheel forward and down the big four-engined bomber went, leveling off at 1,500ft as Dougherty raced straight for four large ships he could see lined up in the middle of the harbor....

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RE: Airgroups altitude - 9/7/2016 3:46:14 PM   
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RE: Airgroups altitude - 9/7/2016 4:41:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Trivia...EVERY German bomber of WW2 was designed to deliver it's payload as a dive bomber, with either underwing dive brakes attached, (like the Ju 88 and original He 111), or a "butterfly brake" (like the DO 17 series}.
The pilots preferred level bombing but this was considered a "secondary" delivery method by the designers.

The large FW 200 was originally designed as a transport so did not have the dive capability, (along with the fact it had a very weak mid section.)




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RE: Airgroups altitude - 9/7/2016 5:27:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Plus the ME-262 (at least in legend) was delayed because Adolf wanted it to take out tanks.

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RE: Airgroups altitude - 9/7/2016 7:29:20 PM   
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Plus the ME-242 (at least in legend) was delayed because Adolf wanted it to take out tanks.

What?? Were the tanks Adolph's ugly nieces? They couldn't get a date without his help?

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RE: Airgroups altitude - 9/7/2016 8:28:12 PM   
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RE: Airgroups altitude - 9/9/2016 2:58:19 AM   
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ME-242


Do you mean ME-262?

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RE: Airgroups altitude - 9/9/2016 8:51:01 PM   
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RE: Airgroups altitude - 9/9/2016 9:23:33 PM   
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ME-242


Do you mean ME-262?


He is a Gorn, be forgiving.

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RE: Airgroups altitude - 9/9/2016 11:41:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes please do. We gorn operate mathematically with base ©£ instead of base ten. Our system is far more advanced than your base ten, you pathetic Earthlings, but sometimes we get confused trying to convert.

Don't know what happened there, it was base Pi when I posted.

Let me try to do a capital Pi and get a lower case Delta again: ¥ð

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RE: Airgroups altitude - 9/9/2016 11:47:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Once again, I was looking at a capital Pi before I posted and then got, what is that upsilon delta? Something's not working right in the forum. I typed [ALT]227. Try it yourselves.

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RE: Airgroups altitude - 9/9/2016 11:48:57 PM   
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RE: Airgroups altitude - 9/10/2016 12:05:00 AM   
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Once again, I was looking at a capital Pi before I posted and then got, what is that upsilon delta? Something's not working right in the forum. I typed [ALT]227. Try it yourselves.

Yes - your PC has the complete character map for that font but the forum does not seem to have all the characters. You can get some special characters like º [ALT 167] and ¼ [ALT 172] but many of them get changed or don't show up at all when you post the message.

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