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RE: How many torpedo hits has as ship survived historic... - 12/9/2016 10:55:33 PM

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Don't mess with my mind! It's one hit and back to port and repairs and then two hits and back to port again. Like HMS Terror not a "pure" example of a "three hits survivor". Let the OP decide.

This whole discussion is moot - there are torpedoes and then there are torpedoes! Someone already mentioned that the aerial torpedoes had much less boom than most sub or surface ship torps, and of course the long lance had the biggest bang of all.
In the case of HMS Terror, I am pretty sure the torpedoes she took were:
1. with small warheads
2. filled with much less potent explosives

IOW, we may be comparing apples to apples but there is a world of difference between varieties.

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RE: How many torpedo hits has as ship survived historic... - 12/9/2016 11:42:26 PM

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If you want artillery ammunition Crab Apples are the best because there are just more of them (per tree). When I was a little kid, my neighbors had such a tree and it was inexhaustible, but I could always re-use that ammunition.

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RE: How many torpedo hits has as ship survived historic... - 12/10/2016 1:13:01 AM

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When I was a kid we used to use holly berries with giant pixie stix as blow guns.

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RE: How many torpedo hits has as ship survived historic... - 12/10/2016 2:13:50 AM

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My holly berries have always been reserved for a mockingbird, but I haven't seen that mockingbird for years.

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RE: How many torpedo hits has as ship survived historic... - 12/10/2016 2:37:29 AM

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OK, you know spiral notebooks? When I was in seventh grade social studies my teacher, named Dovey, who was really really hot was also extremely tolerant of me to the point of ignoring whatever travesty I was engaged in.
Her husband was off (fighting I suppose) in Viet Nam. Air Force. Anyways, the heaters in the schoolroom had these blower fans underneath grates that were like hamster treadmills, cylindrical things. I and another malfeasant (as opposed to a malpheasant, but that's another story) would take a bunch of the chads (this is way before Al Gore) that came off the pages of spiral notebooks and force them into the grate on the room heater thingie. That squirrelcage fan thing would launch them high into the room and they'd come snowing down over the other kids. Nobody would ever say anything, not just Dovey (who I had the worst crush on) or any of the other kids. I mean, what did a little brat like me have to do to get some attention? I wasn't very little in the seventh grade, maybe that is the answer. That big oaf in the corner is acting out again, ignore him and maybe he'll go away.

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RE: How many torpedo hits has as ship survived historic... - 12/10/2016 5:26:52 AM

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Your fantasies were doomed to come to naught - even back then the school board wouldn't have allowed her to take you over he knee and spank you ...

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RE: How many torpedo hits has as ship survived historic... - 12/10/2016 6:01:27 PM

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OK, you know spiral notebooks? When I was in seventh grade social studies my teacher, named Dovey, who was really really hot was also extremely tolerant of me to the point of ignoring whatever travesty I was engaged in.
Her husband was off (fighting I suppose) in Viet Nam. Air Force. Anyways, the heaters in the schoolroom had these blower fans underneath grates that were like hamster treadmills, cylindrical things. I and another malfeasant (as opposed to a malpheasant, but that's another story) would take a bunch of the chads (this is way before Al Gore) that came off the pages of spiral notebooks and force them into the grate on the room heater thingie. That squirrelcage fan thing would launch them high into the room and they'd come snowing down over the other kids. Nobody would ever say anything, not just Dovey (who I had the worst crush on) or any of the other kids. I mean, what did a little brat like me have to do to get some attention? I wasn't very little in the seventh grade, maybe that is the answer. That big oaf in the corner is acting out again, ignore him and maybe he'll go away.

Sincerely I expected a more sexy story judging frm the premise

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RE: How many torpedo hits has as ship survived historic... - 12/12/2016 4:57:12 AM

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Your fantasies were doomed to come to naught - even back then the school board wouldn't have allowed her to take you over he knee and spank you ...

Well they allowed me to be paddled liberally out in the hall. Don't know what I'd have done without them.

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RE: How many torpedo hits has as ship survived historic... - 12/12/2016 1:44:29 PM

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Don't mess with my mind! It's one hit and back to port and repairs and then two hits and back to port again. Like HMS Terror not a "pure" example of a "three hits survivor". Let the OP decide.

This whole discussion is moot - there are torpedoes and then there are torpedoes! Someone already mentioned that the aerial torpedoes had much less boom than most sub or surface ship torps, and of course the long lance had the biggest bang of all.
In the case of HMS Terror, I am pretty sure the torpedoes she took were:
1. with small warheads
2. filled with much less potent explosives

IOW, we may be comparing apples to apples but there is a world of difference between varieties.

Yes. Someone has already mentioned some Japanese maru that took a dozen or more (non-exploding) torpedo hits without issue. So the answer boils down to how parsimonious you want to get regarding the OP qualifiers.

If we talk about "number of torpedo hits" the clear winner is the lucky maru that had a bunch of Mk. 14s NOT explode against her hull.

If we get into the meaning of "survive", then the clear winner is West Virginia that was back in the war a couple years after taking 7 torpedoes at Pearl Harbor.

If we talk about exploding torpedoes, then the maru that was hit by 3 torps and towed back to port (and lived again) seems to be a winner.

Not sure how HMS Terror is entering the discussion, as it does not seem to surpass any of the other interpretations above. But, to each their own.

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RE: How many torpedo hits has as ship survived historic... - 12/12/2016 1:45:56 PM

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Well they allowed me to be paddled liberally out in the hall. Don't know what I'd have done without them.

Round these here parts, they are paddled conservatively.

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RE: How many torpedo hits has as ship survived historic... - 12/15/2016 10:01:24 AM

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Impossible to know. It depends where it hits if it explodes correctly.

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RE: How many torpedo hits has as ship survived historic... - 12/15/2016 6:32:36 PM

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Impossible to know. It depends where it hits if it explodes correctly.

How do you figure that? Sub commanders reported they could hear duds CLANG against a hull on many occasions and the DDs launching at CV Hornet would be able to see the spray thrown up by an exploding torpedo. So what is "impossible"?

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