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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/3/2017 5:10:23 PM   
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The dagger was well aimed. 42nd, 3rd Guards and 1st Red Banner Armies lead the assault, targeting Kremenchuk, where they find a Lufwaffe base and destroy it completely. Sadly for the Soviets the advance runs out of steam before they manage to take the town itself.

To the east an epic dual between the 1st and 2nd Mechanised Corps and the 5th Panzerarmee, sees the destruction of the latter, while to the north, 1st Ukrainian Front get somewhat bogged down in futile full frontal attacks in front of Kiev. The Pripyat Marshes stop any quick manoeuvring on the right wing.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/3/2017 5:21:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Rats For the first time this game I have not taken a screen shot of the MPP position.... Oh well. Suffice to say the Soviets have a shed load of MPP and they are going to spend all of them on new units.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/4/2017 4:39:26 AM   
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The Kriegsmarine excursion into the Atlantic was bigger than I thought! There is another CA on the loose. In an effort to try and save the Tirpitz, this CA (possibly Admiral Scheer) attacks the, now unescorted, Ark Royal and Furious. The attack does not prove fatal however as the carriers had plenty of early warning from the CAP being flown, and they were able to launch torpedo bombers in time to ensure the German ship kept its distance.

The KGV and Queen Elizabeth were diverted from 'Tirpitz' duty to deal with the threat, and a combination of carrier aircraft and 14 and 15-inch gunfire sealed the German ship's fate.

As for Tirpitz, with the two British battleships departed, there was still more than sufficient firepower from Hood, Repulse, Rodney and Nelson - together with help from the aircraft from Iceland - to finish off the German Leviathan.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/4/2017 5:04:21 AM   
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Meanwhile the Graf Zeppelin, which the British thought they had spotted previously off the southern Norwegian coast, turned up off the coast of Northern Scotland?

The British forces around the UK were much reduced due to the earlier breakout but the forces available did what they could to meet the threat from both the German carrier and the existing U-Boat menace off Ireland.

Meanwhile the fleet that had destroyed the bulk of the Kriegsmarine off southern Iceland, was ordered back to the UK as quickly as possible.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/4/2017 5:13:34 AM   
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Back to North Africa now and, like the Kriegsmarine, the Regia Marina decides to go down fighting and a cruiser Squadron, valiantly tries to get amongst the American transports off Benghazi. However, a combination of the Royal Navy's 1st Submarine Flotilla and the 1st Cruiser Squadron ensure that the Italian cruisers find a new home at the bottom of the Gulf of Sirte.

The US 2nd Army and II Corps destroy the Benghazi garrison but have insufficient supplies to enter the port. The transports continue to wait at sea.....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/4/2017 5:33:07 AM   
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In Egypt the British try and link the units that landed in Gazala with Egypt.

Firstly the US bombers on Crete try and soften up the defenders of Tobruk. However the allied aircraft are badly mauled by the waiting Luftwaffe fighters.

XII Corps is ordered to set out for Gazala and comes across the enemy HQ's and main airfields. Some of the Luftwaffe aircraft have to be abandoned as their bases are overrun.

The main British effort is launched against the Italian Corps southeast of Mersa Matruh. A combination of tanks and attacks from Australian, New Zealand and British infantry seal the fate of the Italians. Meanwhile the Canadian 1st Army push back the German anti-tank screen to the south.

US fighters are rebased to Derna to provide protection for the recently landed forces in the Benghazi-Gazala area.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/4/2017 5:56:30 AM   
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In the south of the Soviet Union the Germans appear to be on the retreat and have, in the main, retreated behind the Dnepr. However they have left units on the 'Soviet side' of the river and the plan is to isolate and encircle these units.

21st and 48th Rifle Corps successfully forged a bridgehead across the Dnepr, but the German I Corps in Zaporhyze on the east bank of the river, successfully held off desperate Soviet attacks by two armies and a corps. With the Soviet units in the Crimea reinforcing their was little additional help that could be given to the infantry on the north (west) bank. The two Rifle Corps have been given the orders "Hold at all costs".




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/4/2017 4:47:31 PM   
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There is little change to the Baltic Front following the AI turn from that shown previously. It looks like the Germans have done some retreating but the four units around Daugvapils remain in place and there has been no attempt at saving the pocketed units to the northwest.

14th Rifle Corps leads the attack, liberating Riga and attacking the HQ stationed just beyond. 8th Shock Army follows on and completes the job of destroying the German HQ - and almost surrounding Daugvapils in the process.

The Soviets then get greedy and make a mistake; instead of using 22nd Mechanised Corps to push northwest and complete the encirclement, the tanks push west for Kaunas and run into German artillery. Fortunately for the Soviets there is little damage caused - and they do have another bridgehead, this time between Kaunas and Wilno.

The German XII Corps dig in south of Parnu, as does 1st Army to the south, but 1st Army is in serious trouble. The Soviets have no intention of attacking Daugvapils head on - although limited attacks are made against the two corps on the north bank of the Dvina.

One army, two rifle corps and an attached tank corps to the north of Lake Narach head southwest for Wilno.


Destruction of Army Group North?



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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/4/2017 5:05:09 PM   
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Just north of the Pripyat the Germans are seemingly in real trouble. Minsk is no longer threatened and, instead, the Germans find their right flank in danger of being turned as the Soviet tanks push toward Pinsk and Brest-Litovsk.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/4/2017 6:13:41 PM   
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There is mixed news in the north and central Ukraine where 14th Army have been surrounded but otherwise it is proving harder going as there are a good number of German units in the area.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/4/2017 6:16:59 PM   
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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 4:03:21 AM   
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The convoy map shows how the recent Kriegsmarine sorties have pulled the escort forces out of position. U-Boats have struck two convoy lanes as a result. It also clearly shows how I have forgotten to move the Soviet destroyers flotillas for about 4-5 turns now . These are needed to replace the US destroyers that were lost during the Kriegsmarine's fleet sortie into the Atlantic.

The 3rd (Canadian) Escort Flotilla locates the wolf pack in the north and reduces its strength to just 3. The 14th Escort Flotilla is ordered to leave the Home Fleet and assist.

Three flotillas are ordered to the mid-Atlantic, although there is nothing they can do about the U-Boats this turn.

Meanwhile off the west coast of Scotland the cornered Graf Zeppelin is sunk by the 15-inch shells of HMS Renown and HMS Valiant. The wounded wolf pack, limping back to the UK is also destroyed.

The Home Fleet, less the destroyers, continues its journey back to the UK for R+R.

During the AI turn a destroyer flotilla attacked the 2nd Submarine Flotilla in the Skaggerak. A task force is sent into the Norwegian Sea but no sign of the destroyers is found. However, and very fortuitously, the 16th Escort Flotilla stumble across a wolf pack north of Bergen. The destroyers come off best, although there are no units to assist.

Finally the 2nd Submarine Flotilla is ordered to end its patrol and return to Scotland for repairs.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 4:08:56 AM   
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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 4:49:11 AM   
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In Egypt/Libya the two Allied forces have joined up south of Bardia and trapped the Axis forces in a coastal strip stretching from Tobruk in the west to Mersa Matruh in the east. A German fighter unit is destroyed along with the anti-tank unit that was screening the last of Rommel's panzers. The panzers remain a powerful fighting force but the Allies will attempt to grind them down.

Speaking of Rommel, in a surprise development, the 'Desert Fox' suddenly announced he was feeling a little queezy, his mum wrote the Fuhrer a note, and he has been allowed home...

To the west the US 2nd Army takes Benghazi.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 4:55:24 AM   
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In the Soviet Union I have to be a little careful here. The Soviets have pretty much all the key land units; army, corps, mechanised and tanks, in the field. Many of the units, in their quest to head west, have become under-strength. I think it is time for a little caution to be shown - although where considered prudent, the Soviets need to keep the pressure on.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 5:07:42 AM   
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As a perfect example of what I was saying above, 14th Rifle Corps south of Riga and 22nd Mechanised near Kaunas are both in trouble and cannot move. Stupidly Stalin - er sorry one of Stalin's general's - orders 4th Army south to assist the latter, but the German units there are too strong. The order is therefore given to concentrate on liquidating the pockets south of Parnu and tighten the encirclement of Daugvapils so there can be no escape for the four units there. Only where good odds are available should these units then be attacked. Meanwhile all units are to be brought up to strength.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 5:18:57 AM   
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To the south, and north of the Pripyat Marshes, the same rules MO is put in place. The 1st Shock Tank Army is ordered to take Pinsk but move no further, while efforts are made to eliminate 10th Army only. The German unit stubbornly refuses to die, but the Soviets stay calm and do not deviate from their plan of bringing units up to strength.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 5:33:05 AM   
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In the extreme south the German units on the east (south) bank of the Dnepr prove dogged in their defence. With the exception of pushing 21st Rifle Corps into Krivoy Rog (to hopefully unhinge the German position around Dneprpetrovsk), the Soviets are simply consolidating their position.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 5:38:14 AM   
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To the south of the Pripyat, the position remains difficult. The Italian armour north of Kiev is doing an annoyingly sterling job and the trapped 14th Army shows no sign of weakening. That being the case, again this is a turn of consolidation.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 5:48:06 AM   
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As we enter late 1942 I thought this game was over and that, with the seeming lack of German units on the Eastern Front, the Axis would simply be steamrollered.

The last couple of turns has shown that there is plenty of fight in the Germans....

I still think the Allies must be looking good here for the victory, but at least the Axis have given me something to think about.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 5:59:06 AM   
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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 5:06:18 PM   
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After so much action that was the dullest turn ever! Both in Egypt and the Soviet Union (plus the ships in the UK) units have been ordered to reinforce/upgrade where possible, not only in anticipation of future offensives, but also due to the fact that the Germans are not done yet...


Maybe letting surrounded units get destroyed piecemeal is not the best policy? The Germans fight back.



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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 6:32:49 PM   
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Despite the loss of the bulk of the Kriegsmarine and Regia Marina, there is still plenty to keep the Allies occupied in the North Atlantic.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 6:57:47 PM   
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Rommel's HQ - minus Rommel - is based at Halfaya Pass. The Germans nickname this Hellfire Pass as the German HQ is overrun by British infantry of II and V Corps. With the HQ gone, German resistance at the east end of the Axis line appears to wilt and then crumble.

The British, Canadians, Indians and New Zealanders (plus the US air force) attack the last remaining panzer and artillery regiments of the once proud Afrika Korps. The end is nigh.....

Meanwhile in the west, Bradley, looking as green as his counter after about 3 years at sea, finally makes land along with the US heavy artillery. II Corps does not wait for the artillery and starts to reduce the Italian garrison at El-Agheila.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 7:05:15 PM   
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It must be so hard to design a truly quality AI. There are signs here that the guys are close with this one, but ultimately on the retreat, the AI doesn't know what it wants to do and when it decides, it does not properly commit. It looked last turn as though the panzers were coming to the aid of Daugvapils - but they've disappeared. In the south 48th Rifle Corps looked like it was going to get cut off and destroyed, but key German units remained south of the Dnepr attacking Soviet infantry it didn't need to.

As von Paulus will tell us, there comes a point when surrounded, beyond which a breakout becomes impossible. For the defenders of the Daugvapils fortress and the surrounding area, that time has been reached. Supply is zero, readiness is sub 30% and morale sub 20% for all three units outside the fortress; it's only slightly higher for those inside...

The 1st Baltic Front have now moved beyond Riga - and the Soviet Baltic Fleet has been ordered south to the Gulf of Riga. I am guessing the Finns aren't coming in now




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 7:26:22 PM   
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North of the Pripyat the German 10th Army finally succumb to the inevitable... 16th Army and a reconstituted Hungarian 2nd Army are all that stand in the way of a breakout to Grodno-Bialystok-Brest Litovsk.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 7:39:32 PM   
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The couple of tentative bridgeheads over the Dnepr have now exploded. Especially so in the south where another unfortunate German unit has been surrounded. In the north the Italian tanks were finally overcome and there are now a further six Axis units in imminent danger of being encircled.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 7:42:08 PM   
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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 8:59:25 PM   
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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 1/5/2017 9:16:37 PM   
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Shaping up as a nice win.. I did not see this and Im sure it was there, what is the difficulty level? any changes to the scripts? thanks for a riveting ta(n)ke on this aar

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Everything as per default setting so Intermediate Difficulty and no change in % (see post 5 of the first AAR). I have made no changes or deletions to any of the scripts - all as per standard.

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