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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/17/2016 11:59:03 AM   
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Not again.... Looks like I've got that nonsense with the Germans around Lvov again and the Soviets haven't taken Eastern Poland


I first thought the game almost doesn't need any patching, but the more I play the more I'm waiting for a patch too. I understand how betatesters could have missed those bugs, though. E.g. I somehow never had this one, but though I played alot of hours I only played the campaign about 8 times since it came out - and so it's easy to have been "lucky" regarding any particular bug.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/17/2016 7:50:24 PM   
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Please can you explain what the problem is and send me a saved turn to bill.runacre@furysoftware.com

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/17/2016 7:57:39 PM   
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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/17/2016 8:36:50 PM   
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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/17/2016 8:41:07 PM   
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Thanks, I've got the save and will hopefully have it back with you shortly.
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Bill - no need, I am being a muppet (e-mail sent to you and Hubert with apologies)


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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/17/2016 8:48:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Right then to clarify. There is nothing wrong with the game this time - only the muppet of an operator

...now back to our scheduled programming.....

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/17/2016 8:59:13 PM   
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Poland
The 8th and 20th Infantry Divisions of the Modlin Army, defending the fortress there, come under incessant attack from 3rd Army and II Corps. They manage to inflict heavy casualties on the German infantry which, despite repeated attacks, can make no progress.

There was less pleasant news for the armies and units south of the capital though. Panzer units made short work of the remaining defenders there and also the Poznan Army in the west.

Italy
No further messages about Mussolini - hopefully he is happy now there is a French unit in both Syria and Tunis?




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/17/2016 8:59:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		So we're all set to go? Great! Did the Soviets occupy East Poland after all?

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/17/2016 9:01:40 PM   
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So we're all set to go? Great! Did the Soviets occupy East Poland after all?
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No - because Poland isn't defeated. I just saw the 'Lvov stuff like before' and panicked.....


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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/17/2016 9:06:19 PM   
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Allies

The Germans remain quiet at sea.... this can't last, but I am happy to take it at the moment

UK - Nothing. I want a quality HQ.
France - the French spend all their MPP on starting the process of bringing their armies up to strength.
USA - Nothing
USSR - Nothing, I am still waiting for enough MPP to research infantry weapons.
Poland - I totally muck up. Thinking that British MPP would be used to bring the Polish destroyers up to speed I waste a ton of MPP on this, leaving the Poles in Warsaw and Modlin below strength.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/17/2016 9:08:19 PM   
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Decision time. Do the British want to pick a fight with the Irish over a couple of naval bases?

That would be a no.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/17/2016 9:27:52 PM   
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United Kingdom

I order the 2nd Submarine Flotilla to interdict Norwegian convoys

Poland

I order the Narew Corps south of Warsaw, there place being taken by the KOP units who take up position behind the River Bug.

I disband the Polish air force so that I can bring the garrisons of Warsaw and Modlin up to full strength. I am happy this is not gamey as so many Polish pilots escaped the France and then the UK.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/17/2016 9:43:43 PM   
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Poland

The German aircraft have made all the difference. Warsaw surrenders - although the Germans kept attacking the Modlin Army afterwards and took a few losses doing so.

The German troops are ordered not to tangle with the Soviets and to ensure they keep to their side of the demarcation line.

In some better news, the British submarines have caused some losses to the Iron Ore convoys from Narvik.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/17/2016 9:44:35 PM   
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France

The French are asked if they want to use Spanish Republicans as engineers. The French Government say yes - and this time I hope to actually put them to use....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/17/2016 9:45:07 PM   
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Reinforcements

United Kingdom
The Canadians get a second destroyer unit.

France
The French get 4 garrisons:
1st (Lille)
3rd (Verdun)
5th (Grenoble)
2nd (Sedan)
No prizes for guessing where these were placed....

MPP Expenditure

UK - The British buy Wavell and start to research ASW. They also upgrade the AA on the Malta Defence Force.
France - all point spent on bringing units up to strength.
USA - Nothing
USSR - Nothing - one turn to go to start Infantry Weapons




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/18/2016 7:23:51 AM   
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France

French morale falls due to the loss of Poland that they refused to go and help....

The Germans are goose-stepping all over what was once the Polish corridor.

Decision Time
The Allies are being asked where the Poles that have escaped the clutches of the boche and the Soviets should head for.

As per historically I ask them to go to France - and hopefully the UK thereafter - although of course that cannot be guaranteed.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/18/2016 7:28:14 AM   
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At this time there is little to report on the AI's shenanigans as I cannot see anything!

The U-boats/raiders remain inactive in northern waters, although there is some good news from the South Atlantic, where Commodore Henry Harwood and his three cruisers - the heavy cruiser HMS Exeter, and the light cruisers HMS Ajax and HMS Achilles - fought and severely damaged the pocket battleship Graf Spee, commanded by Captain Hans Langsdorf. Langsdorf put into Montevideo for repairs but, as per international law, was ordered to leave after a short period of time. Fearing that there were British capital ships waiting for him (a fear increased by British deception operations) Langsdorf ordered the Graf Spee to be scuttled and so save his crew and possible capture of his ship. The German captain shot himself shortly afterwards.





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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/18/2016 7:54:50 AM   
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Soviet Union

The Soviets invade Finland! Well that's not cricket is it boys and girls? Have you seen the disparity in size of the countries and the armed forces? This will be over in days.....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/18/2016 8:03:14 AM   
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Soviet Union

The Soviets are expelled from the League of Nations as a result of their dastardly attack on the poor Finns. That'll teach them. Threatened with such a serious sanction from the mighty League I suspect the Soviets will withdraw from Finland immediately....

The USSR has been asked whether it will agree to a revision to the Nazi-Soviet pact border agreement. Essentially the Soviets take a bit less of Poland and in return take Lithuania - whose populace are apparently gagging to come under the control of kind, cuddly Uncle Joe. The Soviets, always keen to welcome new additions to the Empire, readily agree.

United Kingdom

Another 13 MPP are lost by the Germans thanks to sterling work by the 2nd Submarine Flotilla.





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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/18/2016 8:06:35 AM   
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Reinforcements
None

MPP Spending

UK - the UK research naval weaponry, infantry warfare and bring the BEF up to strength. The two corps are still at half strength and I need another corps - not to mention what I need in the Desert!
France - two more armies in the north get the 'full strength' treatment but the units in the south and in the Maginot Line have yet to get any help
USA - start researching production technology
USSR - almost all its 216 MPP are used to research Infantry Weapons




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/18/2016 3:55:39 PM   
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Again, because of Fog of War there is little to see this turn. Here is the high level summary.

The U-Boats are out in the North Atlantic at last....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/18/2016 4:00:03 PM   
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United Kingdom

The IRA decide to attack the British. Not sure what effect that has (if any) in game terms??




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/18/2016 4:00:49 PM   
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United Kingdom and France

The German 7th Flieger Division is spotted deploying in Hamburg. Why? Norway? The Low Countries? I am sure time will tell - not too much time either.

France

Although not much movement in evidence, there was definitely something happening on the Franco-Italian border. An imminent Italian attack perhaps?




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/18/2016 4:02:59 PM   
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Reinforcements

United Kingdom
Two Destroyer Flotillas arrive in Scotland.

France
The Spanish engineers arrive. I need to set about using these guys asap.

MPP Expenditure

UK - The UK build a corps and spend the remaining points on the BEF.
France - Spend a huge 30 MPP to get the engineers to Northern France - ouch! The remaining points are spent on the build up, which includes units in the south for the first time.
USA - Nothing as they hold on for the 200 MPP needed for Infantry Weapons
USSR - The Soviets are not exactly spoilt for choice as to what to spend their 28 MPP on.... precisely nothing




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/18/2016 4:14:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		given your impressive (imho) handling of Poland presume you may well have disrupted the axis timetable in the west. Noticed the AI tends to invade early in 1940 so hopefully you have bought yourself more time?

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/18/2016 4:18:23 PM   
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given your impressive (imho) handling of Poland presume you may well have disrupted the axis timetable in the west. Noticed the AI tends to invade early in 1940 so hopefully you have bought yourself more time?
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Let's hope It would be nice to get some of these guys dug in properly.


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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/18/2016 4:20:30 PM   
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France

More decisions. The first one concerns the Poles and the setting up of a Polish Corps. This is confirmed. There is a cost of 50 MPP but this is spread over two turns and its all about boots on the ground!




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/18/2016 4:22:39 PM   
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France and the United Kingdom

I have said yes to this mission but, on reflection, am not sure it was the right thing to do. Too late its done now, but I wonder if these MPP could have been better spent.....




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/18/2016 5:04:29 PM   
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France and the United Kingdom

I have said yes to this mission but, on reflection, am not sure it was the right thing to do. Too late its done now, but I wonder if these MPP could have been better spent.....



No, it's a good decision. Maybe too good at the moment, actually. In all my five games as UK/US it prevented Finland from entering the Axis alliance. It seems that the German AI is not aware that they need Finland to have a pro-Axis leaning.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/18/2016 5:13:33 PM   
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Essentially the Poles take a bit less of Poland

Que?

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