Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: wolfe69

Type 95 DC are useless lol, not really they are good. Depending on the ship crew's experience and the captain. I manage to sink a American sub in deep water and very nasty in shallow waters as well. As long you have good detection levels, crew's experience and the right hardware, you will do something nasty.

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ORIGINAL: Barb

I would say that every radar set available is good.
Given their range they contribute to the success of detecting incoming air raid. With the "Effect" (actually chance to detect) of Japanese radars in range of 40-60% this actually mean that about half of the devices would actually detect the raid. The more detection the higher detection level. The greater the distance, the more time to get CAP in place.

It is another case with allied radar sets working with 80-100% effectiveness. But even there, the more the better.

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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

I think Barb has got this correct. Obvert can always do a test in our new game...strip his carrier TF's of half their radar sets and we will see what happens.

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Been reading with interest here. Love the different thoughts about how to use the IJN DDs best.

I've done both, upgrading and not. Still not sure what the effects are as the Allies are just tough all around in the endgame.

My main question here is how much do the air radars accumulate? If the CVs have them, the cruisers have them, the BBs have them, do the DDs also need them? We're never talking about sending the DDs out alone hoping they'll vector CAP in to their defence, right? This is for the KB mostly, which could be loaded with 20+ radar sets once they're available, especially since the late war CVs all come with a bunch. Maybe SCTFs with LR CAP, but those could still have 4-5.

The late CVs have 4 x air radar sets!!

Many of the BBs have 2 x air radar, and the cruisers have one too.

So if you have (for example) 4 x Unryu class CV, 1 x Kongo, 1 x Tone and 8 DDs (not upgraded) you still have 19 radar sets. Are more than that needed?

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ORIGINAL: rustysi

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Been reading with interest here. Love the different thoughts about how to use the IJN DDs best.

I've done both, upgrading and not. Still not sure what the effects are as the Allies are just tough all around in the endgame.

My main question here is how much do the air radars accumulate? If the CVs have them, the cruisers have them, the BBs have them, do the DDs also need them? We're never talking about sending the DDs out alone hoping they'll vector CAP in to their defence, right? This is for the KB mostly, which could be loaded with 20+ radar sets once they're available, especially since the late war CVs all come with a bunch. Maybe SCTFs with LR CAP, but those could still have 4-5.

The late CVs have 4 x air radar sets!!

Many of the BBs have 2 x air radar, and the cruisers have one too.

So if you have (for example) 4 x Unryu class CV, 1 x Kongo, 1 x Tone and 8 DDs (not upgraded) you still have 19 radar sets. Are more than that needed?

When it comes to the point I'm trying to make here you are comparing apples to oranges. In addition to the type 2 DC's the radar that is added is a surface radar, range of 37k IIRC. What I'm pointing out here is that this should help raise the DL on subs, thus increasing the likelihood of an attack. It is these radar that I'm interested in acquiring, not more air search radar. Although my thoughts are the more the merrier, especially when it comes to Japan. I just know that even if there is a remote possibility that a dozen radar sets will fail to detect a raid it'll happen to me. That dark cloud has been there all my life.