RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert

Matrix Games Forums

Forums Register Login Photo Gallery Member List Search Calendars FAQ

My Profile Inbox Address Book My Subscription My Forums Log Out

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition >> After Action Reports >> RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert

Page: << < prev 1 [2] 3 4 5 next > >>

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/15/2017 1:01:19 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

This great unwashed heathen from the South knows that Moby-Dick is hyphenated.

The experts sing the acclaim of Tobacco Road too. Highly educated folks and northerners, in particular, appreciated it's depictions of poor, uneducated southerners. The author (Erskine Caldwell, a Georgian) wrote in 1972 that it was an accurate representation of the sharecropper class.

It wasn't, but there's no convincing the washed elite of that fact. From the work I've done, I know that sharecroppers, generally, were decent, hard-working, God-fearing folks. To check that perception, years ago I spoke with Harry Roper, the son of Arthur Raper (Harry changed his last name as an adult). Arthur was a sociologist who lived with, studied, and wrote about the sharecropper class in east Georgia in the 1930s and '40s. Harry grew up there but spent the rest of his life in Maine, detesting southerners partly because of the racism. But Harry told me that Caldwell's depiction of sharecroppers was a weird and demented reflection on reality. He told me that most sharecroppers had two iconic items in their houses - a Bible and a photo of FDR. He knew them as the decent, hardworking folk that are absent from Caldwell's odd and phantasmorgic portrayal.

Appreciation of a book - literature included - is highly subjective. My lack of appreciation for Tobacco Road, though, isn't due to ignorance. Similarly, I'll stick by my dislike of Moby-Dick, no matter what layers Melville used and his ultimate reasons for writing the book.

< Message edited by Canoerebel -- 1/15/2017 1:03:17 AM >

(in reply to geofflambert)

Post #: 31

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/15/2017 1:08:07 AM

Mike McCreery

Posts: 4232
Joined: 6/29/2013
Status: offline

Gornigula....

_____________________________

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 32

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/15/2017 1:08:54 AM

geofflambert

Posts: 14863
Joined: 12/23/2010
From: St. Louis
Status: offline

There's a funny scene in it, I believe in The Try Works chapter. It's about the method of rendering the Spermaceti (the fatty part of the sperm whale's head and most valuable product derived from a sperm whale) where the crew member who officiates over the processing and does much of the work himself dons a garment crafted from the penis of a sperm whale which protects him from hot spattering oil. Melville calls his station over the vat his Bishopric. The visual image is when you think about it hilarious and the play with words (sperm, spermaceti, bishopric) worth a few chuckles at least. I haven't read MD in thirty years, or Aristophanes for that matter, but remember all this and more.

(in reply to geofflambert)

Post #: 33

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/15/2017 1:09:05 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

This AAR is off to a spectacularly unexpected start. Gorn, you've inspired a sensation!

(in reply to Mike McCreery)

Post #: 34

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/15/2017 1:09:27 AM

Bif1961

Posts: 2014
Joined: 6/26/2008
From: Phenix City, Alabama
Status: offline

What about the much under appreciated "Horton Hears a Who?"

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 35

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/15/2017 1:10:14 AM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

What about Are You My Mother?

(in reply to Bif1961)

Post #: 36

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/15/2017 1:49:09 AM

geofflambert

Posts: 14863
Joined: 12/23/2010
From: St. Louis
Status: offline

As for that hyphen, the first publication was by a London publisher who did not use a hyphen. The first US publication used a hyphen. The name Moby Dick was derived from the "name" of an actual whale, Mocha Dick, for which I've found no hyphenated version. Since the London publisher had the original manuscript I presume Melville did not hyphenate it, until I see evidence to the contrary.

Also, in the New York edition, printed after the London one, while the hyphen appeared in the title, in the body of the text there was no hyphen.

< Message edited by geofflambert -- 1/15/2017 1:53:02 AM >

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 37

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/15/2017 1:55:35 PM

Zorch

Posts: 7087
Joined: 3/7/2010
Status: offline

Hyphens? We talkin' Hyphens?! Don't talk to me about Hyphens!

Attachment (1)

(in reply to geofflambert)

Post #: 38

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/15/2017 6:45:10 PM

BBfanboy

Posts: 18046
Joined: 8/4/2010
From: Winnipeg, MB
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Zorch

Hyphens? We talkin' Hyphens?! Don't talk to me about Hyphens!

So that's what Mein Kampf was about? - starting camps for hyphens?

No wonder so many people hated the book!

_____________________________

No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth

(in reply to Zorch)

Post #: 39

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/15/2017 8:14:22 PM

Zorch

Posts: 7087
Joined: 3/7/2010
Status: offline

Don't say you haven't been warned!

Attachment (1)

(in reply to BBfanboy)

Post #: 40

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/16/2017 12:04:58 PM

dave sindel

Posts: 488
Joined: 3/13/2006
From: Millersburg, OH
Status: offline

This is going to be a fun ride. 40 posts in and nary a word about the game itself. I agree with Canoerebel - what a great title.

(in reply to Zorch)

Post #: 41

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/16/2017 2:05:16 PM

BBfanboy

Posts: 18046
Joined: 8/4/2010
From: Winnipeg, MB
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: dave sindel

This is going to be a fun ride. 40 posts in and nary a word about the game itself. I agree with Canoerebel - what a great title.

Yes, it's Gorn to be Wild

They have music for that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UWRypqz5-o

_____________________________

No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth

(in reply to dave sindel)

Post #: 42

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/16/2017 2:28:09 PM

Lecivius

Posts: 4845
Joined: 8/5/2007
From: Denver
Status: offline

I always thought these was more to the scaly one than prose...

Attachment (1)

(in reply to BBfanboy)

Post #: 43

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/16/2017 2:36:37 PM

BBfanboy

Posts: 18046
Joined: 8/4/2010
From: Winnipeg, MB
Status: offline

High fashion?

_____________________________

No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth

(in reply to Lecivius)

Post #: 44

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/16/2017 6:17:59 PM

Canoerebel

Posts: 21100
Joined: 12/14/2002
From: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Status: offline

Did enthusiasm for Geoff's AAR give him a heart attack or prompt him to drop the match before it started?

So far, this is in the running as oddest AAR in the history of AE/WitP. 99% of the post are by others, the author has disappeared, and there hasn't yet been a single post about the actual game!

(in reply to BBfanboy)

Post #: 45

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/16/2017 6:31:40 PM

MakeeLearn

Posts: 4278
Joined: 9/11/2016
Status: offline

Technical difficulties....

Attachment (1)

< Message edited by MakeeLearn -- 1/16/2017 6:41:44 PM >

(in reply to Canoerebel)

Post #: 46

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/16/2017 6:49:50 PM

geofflambert

Posts: 14863
Joined: 12/23/2010
From: St. Louis
Status: offline

Working on it, working on it. Tomorrow I go in for jury duty, and even if they don't pick me then I'll likely have to come back Wednesday. If they pick me, it could be awhile, but I'm a green snaggletoothed guy so they probably won't pick me unless a Romulan is on trial. I've got a big fat spiral notebook with notes and plans from previous campaigns but they're like in code I don't remember anymore and they're from DBB-C games and the numbers are different in stock so I have to refigure all that plus I have a new strategy. Plus I'm pretty lazy lately.

(in reply to MakeeLearn)

Post #: 47

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/16/2017 7:44:56 PM

Zorch

Posts: 7087
Joined: 3/7/2010
Status: offline

I hear IBM is teaching Watson to play War in the Pacific...be VERY afraid.
(tell them you're into green porn and you'll be excused)

Attachment (1)

(in reply to geofflambert)

Post #: 48

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/16/2017 8:54:54 PM

Chickenboy

Posts: 24520
Joined: 6/29/2002
From: San Antonio, TX
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Working on it, working on it. Tomorrow I go in for jury duty, and even if they don't pick me then I'll likely have to come back Wednesday. If they pick me, it could be awhile, but I'm a green snaggletoothed guy so they probably won't pick me unless a Romulan is on trial. I've got a big fat spiral notebook with notes and plans from previous campaigns but they're like in code I don't remember anymore and they're from DBB-C games and the numbers are different in stock so I have to refigure all that plus I have a new strategy. Plus I'm pretty lazy lately.

You should totally bring your notebook and plans from previous campaigns along with you for jury selection. Review your Gornian tendencies with the attorneys involved in jury selection. Explain your plans for world (Imperial Japanese for now) domination as you show them your scarcely legible scrawl. Tell them about your imaginary friends "Chickenboy" and "BBfanboy". I suspect you'll be excused from further obligation on the jury because of your other very important activities.

_____________________________

(in reply to geofflambert)

Post #: 49

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/16/2017 9:38:28 PM

Bif1961

Posts: 2014
Joined: 6/26/2008
From: Phenix City, Alabama
Status: offline

Was that a picture of the new plane over-stacking rules for carriers?

(in reply to Chickenboy)

Post #: 50

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/16/2017 9:46:10 PM

AW1Steve

Posts: 14507
Joined: 3/10/2007
From: Mordor Illlinois
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Working on it, working on it. Tomorrow I go in for jury duty, and even if they don't pick me then I'll likely have to come back Wednesday. If they pick me, it could be awhile, but I'm a green snaggletoothed guy so they probably won't pick me unless a Romulan is on trial. I've got a big fat spiral notebook with notes and plans from previous campaigns but they're like in code I don't remember anymore and they're from DBB-C games and the numbers are different in stock so I have to refigure all that plus I have a new strategy. Plus I'm pretty lazy lately.

You should totally bring your notebook and plans from previous campaigns along with you for jury selection. Review your Gornian tendencies with the attorneys involved in jury selection. Explain your plans for world (Imperial Japanese for now) domination as you show them your scarcely legible scrawl. Tell them about your imaginary friends "Chickenboy" and "BBfanboy". I suspect you'll be excused from further obligation on the jury because of your other very important activities.

In St Louis? The defense attorney will jump on him like a duck on a june bug. THEY LIKE crazy!

(in reply to Chickenboy)

Post #: 51

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/16/2017 10:01:26 PM

Zorch

Posts: 7087
Joined: 3/7/2010
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Working on it, working on it. Tomorrow I go in for jury duty, and even if they don't pick me then I'll likely have to come back Wednesday. If they pick me, it could be awhile, but I'm a green snaggletoothed guy so they probably won't pick me unless a Romulan is on trial. I've got a big fat spiral notebook with notes and plans from previous campaigns but they're like in code I don't remember anymore and they're from DBB-C games and the numbers are different in stock so I have to refigure all that plus I have a new strategy. Plus I'm pretty lazy lately.

You should totally bring your notebook and plans from previous campaigns along with you for jury selection. Review your Gornian tendencies with the attorneys involved in jury selection. Explain your plans for world (Imperial Japanese for now) domination as you show them your scarcely legible scrawl. Tell them about your imaginary friends "Chickenboy" and "BBfanboy". I suspect you'll be excused from further obligation on the jury because of your other very important activities.

In St Louis? The defense attorney will jump on him like a duck on a june bug. THEY LIKE crazy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBuNvyo4j54

(in reply to AW1Steve)

Post #: 52

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/16/2017 10:05:29 PM

BBfanboy

Posts: 18046
Joined: 8/4/2010
From: Winnipeg, MB
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Working on it, working on it. Tomorrow I go in for jury duty, and even if they don't pick me then I'll likely have to come back Wednesday. If they pick me, it could be awhile, but I'm a green snaggletoothed guy so they probably won't pick me unless a Romulan is on trial. I've got a big fat spiral notebook with notes and plans from previous campaigns but they're like in code I don't remember anymore and they're from DBB-C games and the numbers are different in stock so I have to refigure all that plus I have a new strategy. Plus I'm pretty lazy lately.

You should totally bring your notebook and plans from previous campaigns along with you for jury selection. Review your Gornian tendencies with the attorneys involved in jury selection. Explain your plans for world (Imperial Japanese for now) domination as you show them your scarcely legible scrawl. Tell them about your imaginary friends "Chickenboy" and "BBfanboy". I suspect you'll be excused from further obligation on the jury because of your other very important activities.

In St Louis? The defense attorney will jump on him like a duck on a june bug. THEY LIKE crazy!

Maybe there's a place for Geoff in a new political administration .... like Russia's!

_____________________________

No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth

(in reply to AW1Steve)

Post #: 53

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/16/2017 10:16:26 PM

witpqs

Posts: 26087
Joined: 10/4/2004
From: Argleton
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

quote:

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

Working on it, working on it. Tomorrow I go in for jury duty, and even if they don't pick me then I'll likely have to come back Wednesday. If they pick me, it could be awhile, but I'm a green snaggletoothed guy so they probably won't pick me unless a Romulan is on trial. I've got a big fat spiral notebook with notes and plans from previous campaigns but they're like in code I don't remember anymore and they're from DBB-C games and the numbers are different in stock so I have to refigure all that plus I have a new strategy. Plus I'm pretty lazy lately.

You should totally bring your notebook and plans from previous campaigns along with you for jury selection. Review your Gornian tendencies with the attorneys involved in jury selection. Explain your plans for world (Imperial Japanese for now) domination as you show them your scarcely legible scrawl. Tell them about your imaginary friends "Chickenboy" and "BBfanboy". I suspect you'll be excused from further obligation on the jury because of your other very important activities.

Good idea. I think if Geoff expands that to "Galactic domination" and throws in a little foaming at the mouth that will get him out of jury duty. Maybe into a strait jacket, but definitely out of jury duty!

_____________________________

Intel Monkey: https://sites.google.com/view/staffmonkeys/home

(in reply to Chickenboy)

Post #: 54

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/16/2017 11:31:15 PM

rustysi

Posts: 7472
Joined: 2/21/2012
From: LI, NY
Status: offline

Blah, blah, blah. Yadda, yadda, yadda. All this pre-match caterwaulin'. This better be good!!!!

Looking forward to it.

_____________________________

It is seldom that liberty of any kind is lost all at once. Hume

In every party there is one member who by his all-too-devout pronouncement of the party principles provokes the others to apostasy. Nietzsche

Cave ab homine unius libri. Ltn Prvb

(in reply to witpqs)

Post #: 55

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/17/2017 5:12:46 AM

adarbrauner

Posts: 1496
Joined: 11/3/2016
From: Zichron Yaaqov, Israel; Before, Treviso, Italy
Status: offline

Aritophanes' recollection is identical to an older Israelite-Jewish traditional exegesis of the creation of first man and woman, according to which man and woman were created at one sole body at the beginning, two headed and two faced, but then G- separated them. Therefore they keep seeking one for the lost part of the other to completion.

Ahab himself is named, seemingly not unpurpotedly, after the biblical King Ahab, a double faceted personality, who was at time dubbed as a the greatest blasphemer, at time as a truly repentant one.

< Message edited by adarbrauner -- 1/17/2017 5:14:47 AM >

(in reply to rustysi)

Post #: 56

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/17/2017 2:34:12 PM

Lecivius

Posts: 4845
Joined: 8/5/2007
From: Denver
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

Aritophanes' recollection is identical to an older Israelite-Jewish traditional exegesis of the creation of first man and woman, according to which man and woman were created at one sole body at the beginning, two headed and two faced, but then G- separated them. Therefore they keep seeking one for the lost part of the other to completion.

Ahab himself is named, seemingly not unpurpotedly, after the biblical King Ahab, a double faceted personality, who was at time dubbed as a the greatest blasphemer, at time as a truly repentant one.

(in reply to adarbrauner)

Post #: 57

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/17/2017 2:48:14 PM

Chickenboy

Posts: 24520
Joined: 6/29/2002
From: San Antonio, TX
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lecivius

quote:

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

Aritophanes' recollection is identical to an older Israelite-Jewish traditional exegesis of the creation of first man and woman, according to which man and woman were created at one sole body at the beginning, two headed and two faced, but then G- separated them. Therefore they keep seeking one for the lost part of the other to completion.

Ahab himself is named, seemingly not unpurpotedly, after the biblical King Ahab, a double faceted personality, who was at time dubbed as a the greatest blasphemer, at time as a truly repentant one.

Where's your 'whut' meme now, Colorado boy?

_____________________________

(in reply to Lecivius)

Post #: 58

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/17/2017 5:28:57 PM

adarbrauner

Posts: 1496
Joined: 11/3/2016
From: Zichron Yaaqov, Israel; Before, Treviso, Italy
Status: offline

quote:

ORGINAL: GeoffLambert
For the unwashed heathens from the South who wouldn't know Nantucket from Phuket, Moby Dick has about three (maybe more) layers of symbolism and it could not possibly be denser in that regard. As a simple example, the White Whale is a symbol for God and Nature at the same time and Ahab is a blasphemer against the natural order. Melville wrote to his friend Nathaniel Hawthorne (a great author in his own right) that "I have written a wicked book and feel spotless as the lamb." I'll try to relate this as best I can from memory as I don't have it before me; Aristophanes wrote a story about the origins of humankind (tongue firmly in cheek) saying that originally man was actually man/woman with four legs, four arms and two heads, but God (Zeus I think) got p.o.ed at them and threw thunderbolts splitting us all into the two sexes and warned if we angered him again he would split us in half once more and we should have to hop around on one foot then. Ahab has a streaky scar running down his face looking jagged and pale like a bolt of lightning and has had one leg taken by the White Whale. It's not too late to try reading it again while trying to understand what Melville is actually saying. Huckleberry Finn is one of the greatest books ever written in any language but in my view Moby Dick is a little step above.

(in reply to Chickenboy)

Post #: 59

RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert - 1/18/2017 7:06:33 PM

geofflambert

Posts: 14863
Joined: 12/23/2010
From: St. Louis
Status: offline

That video was too apropos. The entire 48 member jury panel I was on got rejected in voir dire and sent home. So many people just disqualifying themselves, not because they wanted out but because they were stupid. I think I may have been rejected myself by the prosecutor. I don't think it was because I'm green, she asked "Who's been arrested before?" I had to raise my claw. After that she passed me over. She also asked if the defendant's age (17 at the time) made a difference because he was being tried as an adult. The usual liberal wet noodles said, 'yes, I could not convict', I held my forked tongue. Then "could you trust the testimony of a cop a) some of the time b) none of the time or c) all of the time?" They were all over on that one. The worst was when the PD started asking questions. It was a carjacking case (using a BB gun) and it was apparent that he did not plan to present a defense, just opening statement, cross examinations and closing statement. He asked if anyone thought he had to prove his client innocent and there was a bunch who said he did. At that point the judge threw up her hands and said the defendant couldn't get a fair trial and that she'd have to empanel a new group of 48 the next day and try again. A room of people, some with advanced degrees, in bad need of a Civics Course.

So I'm back to trying to prepare to smite AW1Steve. I'm looking at all my copious notes which I once understood, and it looks like a pile of spaghetti, al dente, and you find the end of one noodle and need to know where the other end is without disturbing the pile. I may lose what little I have left of a mind figuring this out. Have patience.

< Message edited by geofflambert -- 1/18/2017 8:04:42 PM >

(in reply to adarbrauner)

Post #: 60

Page: << < prev 1 [2] 3 4 5 next > >>

All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition >> After Action Reports >> RE: The Gorn Supremacy; stock AW1Steve v. geofflambert