Slitherine

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I think this is WAD.

Two prototype / pre-production Emilies have been used in "Operation K" a.k.a. the second bombing of Pearl Harbor in March 1942.

I think the Yokohama Ku T-1 Det represents these two aircraft.

The regular production run of the Emily started later in the year.

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The accuracy of the .50cal machine-guns on medium and heavy bombers has been halved (new device) – yes, JFB fanboyism alert! But the number of fighters, esp. night-fighters downed by bombers just does not feel right – those bombers are self-escorting as well as the best sweepers the Allies have! My theory for the accuracy change is that - since the number of weapons and fire pulses has not changed - there will be the same amount of “driven away by defensive fire” messages, but less kills than before. The front-facing machine-guns of designated attack bombers remain at original accuracy.

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ORIGINAL: sanderz

Hi Brian

A quick question on the changes made to Heavy Bomber turret accuracy. I have been looking at both yours and LSTs mods and it seems you have taken very different views here e.g. (if i have read things correctly) you have increased accuracy (for powered turrets) whereas LST has halved accuracy all round.

From LSTs documentation...

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The accuracy of the .50cal machine-guns on medium and heavy bombers has been halved (new device) – yes, JFB fanboyism alert! But the number of fighters, esp. night-fighters downed by bombers just does not feel right – those bombers are self-escorting as well as the best sweepers the Allies have! My theory for the accuracy change is that - since the number of weapons and fire pulses has not changed - there will be the same amount of “driven away by defensive fire” messages, but less kills than before. The front-facing machine-guns of designated attack bombers remain at original accuracy.

Whilst you can't argue with the logic for your changes the points that LST makes (basically about Heavy Bombers being a bit overpowered), does seem to hold some weight. So, i just wondered what your views on these differences are, and LST if you see this do you know how your changes worked out in practice in actual games, e.g. less kills and more driven offs?

Many thanks

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ORIGINAL: sanderz

Hi Brian

Thanks again for keeping this mod updated.

I have been digging around in the editor comparing your scenario with stock and came across something seemingly odd with devices for Japanese Infantry squads i.e. they have a build rate of zero, however when i looked at a scenario 1 that also had Japanese squad build rates as zero. The allied troops all have build rates in both scenarios.

I assume this can't be an error but either me looking in the wrong place, or a quirk with Japanese squad production that i am missing?

Many Thanks

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ORIGINAL: sanderz

Thanks Brian, am new to delving into the inner workings of the game. Am looking to mod your game (for personal use only)if thats ok?

Where in the game do you set the squad production only there is nothing in the Industry window.

Hmmmm.... is it related to "Armaments"? i.e. the more of them i build the more squads you get?

Is there anything buried in the editor that defines how many squads are built depending on amount of armaments produced?

Thanks again

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More effective than other air forces did - but still ineffective enough that unescorted heavy bomber raids suffered up to 16% of planes destroyed over enemy territory plus up to 20% ops losses and write-offs after returning home due to battle damage

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ORIGINAL: spence

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More effective than other air forces did - but still ineffective enough that unescorted heavy bomber raids suffered up to 16% of planes destroyed over enemy territory plus up to 20% ops losses and write-offs after returning home due to battle damage

Are you quoting statistics from the ETO? I have read in several sources that pilots of the A6M2 were loath to even attack the B-17Es that attacked the Kido Butai at Midway.

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ORIGINAL: sanderz

Hi again BigB

Hope you can help with a few more questions :)

1) P47 replacements
If i am reading things correctly there are no replacements for the 8 months from 7/44 to 2/45 (same as stock). However in your mod notes you say "There are also several other aircraft who have had their production cycles (dates) modified to reflect the fact that aircraft production – does not stop with a several month or year long gap between production models". But this does not seem to apply to the P47. Is the big gap in P47 replacements because they all went to Europe for D-day?

2) Infantry squad replacements
For the mod i am working on (an enhanced Scenario 2 mod based on B mod) i was going to up the squad replacements but notice that this is (whilst i think not mentioned in your notes) something you have already done. Just curious if this was for game-play purposes or more historical reasons.

Many thanks

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ORIGINAL: Big B

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ORIGINAL: sanderz

Hi again BigB

Hope you can help with a few more questions :)

1) P47 replacements
If i am reading things correctly there are no replacements for the 8 months from 7/44 to 2/45 (same as stock). However in your mod notes you say "There are also several other aircraft who have had their production cycles (dates) modified to reflect the fact that aircraft production – does not stop with a several month or year long gap between production models". But this does not seem to apply to the P47. Is the big gap in P47 replacements because they all went to Europe for D-day?


Many thanks

Hi sanderz,
1) I see P-47D2 production running from 7/43 to 2/44, then P-47D25 picking up at 3/44 to 6/44, then P-47N production starting in 3/45, so there is a gap from 7/44 through 2/45... it was something that escaped my notice until now - not a decision.

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ORIGINAL: sanderz

Brian - a very minor point about your website in that the newly updated files don't have a "date updated" date, this is very useful when checking your site for scenario updates.

Thanks again

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ORIGINAL: Falken

Brian,

Just wanted to give you an update, and another thank you. Wineguy and I are doing really well with our B-Mod campaign. We haven't picked up your latest changes, but with the version that we have, we just hit April 2nd, 1942 in our game, and it's going really well.

No major issues at all. Honestly, it's been really clean. You have further cemented my belief that the B-Mod is the "MOD" to play for historical play. I used to be DBB as my primary, but can safely say that this is my new base for MODs.

BTW,,, China is a real (*(*&^(*(* :) :) :) Very hard to make any ground, and even if you do, you need some much guarrison, that it's very hard to make any headway... Luv it.

Should be able to give you a better update in a few months as the new planes come in. I'm about to get the Nick, and once we hit June, the new Zero-3 and a few other things will be coming. But so far, so good.

Right now, only the new Rufe, Lily, and Mavis have come in so can't really comment yet on Aircraft Upgrade performance.

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There has been no 'massacre' of Japanese fighters due to the power turret accuracy boost, they do score more hits though. The principal to keep in mind is - not only is the hardware far better, US Heavy Bombers operated tactically different than other nations - using the bomber box formation. This was designed to let every gun on every bomber share a concentrated field of fire all around, and the aircraft purposely flew tight formations - never splitting up as other air forces did. It was very effective.

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Heavy Bombers: American Heavy Bombers (B-17, B-24, & B-29) equipped with power turrets have had those weapons boosted in accuracy rating (fully powered turrets, with reflector gun sights, are much more accurate than hand held machine-guns...And – this will help reflect the Mutual Support that American Heavy Bomber units had – with their unique tactical doctrine – the Bomber Box).

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ORIGINAL: WingCmdr

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There has been no 'massacre' of Japanese fighters due to the power turret accuracy boost, they do score more hits though. The principal to keep in mind is - not only is the hardware far better, US Heavy Bombers operated tactically different than other nations - using the bomber box formation. This was designed to let every gun on every bomber share a concentrated field of fire all around, and the aircraft purposely flew tight formations - never splitting up as other air forces did. It was very effective.

Wait, I don't follow.

You as the modder have designed Bomber tactics into a weapon system?

So help me out with this. Is this the difference between the two mods?

Help your other modders out with how you factor a planes formation into the gun value?

Why do small flights receive the same benefit?

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ORIGINAL: Big B

It's quite simple
From the design notes:

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Heavy Bombers: American Heavy Bombers (B-17, B-24, & B-29) equipped with power turrets have had those weapons boosted in accuracy rating (fully powered turrets, with reflector gun sights, are much more accurate than hand held machine-guns...And – this will help reflect the Mutual Support that American Heavy Bomber units had – with their unique tactical doctrine – the Bomber Box).

The reason fighters with only 2 machine guns got a firepower boost was to make them more effective in combat - as they actually were.

For example, the KI-43 Oscar: In the stock game the KI-43 is not as effective as a fighter as the A6M - I don't think any player would disagree.
In reality the Oscar downed more enemy aircraft than any other Japanese fighter, and that's counting only 5,919 Oscars built - compared to 10,939 Zeros built.
With the 2x machine gun fire power bonus - the KI-43 has proven to be as effective a fighter as the A6M - in B-Mod.

I hope this answers your questions.

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ORIGINAL: WingCmdr

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There has been no 'massacre' of Japanese fighters due to the power turret accuracy boost, they do score more hits though. The principal to keep in mind is - not only is the hardware far better, US Heavy Bombers operated tactically different than other nations - using the bomber box formation. This was designed to let every gun on every bomber share a concentrated field of fire all around, and the aircraft purposely flew tight formations - never splitting up as other air forces did. It was very effective.

Wait, I don't follow.

You as the modder have designed Bomber tactics into a weapon system?

So help me out with this. Is this the difference between the two mods?

Help your other modders out with how you factor a planes formation into the gun value?

Why do small flights receive the same benefit?

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ORIGINAL: WingCmdr


I don't think you answered a single question. Feel free to do it by bullet points like the real world does.

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ORIGINAL: Falken

I’m sorry but why the harsh words for Brian “Feel free to do it by bullet points like the real world does. “. Brian is one of the most knowledgeable people that I know on this board and he has worked very hard to provide us with a heck of a good mod, in his free time.

I fully understand if u don’t agree with an aspect of the Mod but please give Brian the respect that he deserves.

Also if you don’t agree, then u are free to build your own version

Thank you

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